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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone had any tips or extra resources for law reading comp. I am struggling a lot with Law RC, and drilling them isn't helping a ton. Any tips or info would be greatly appreciated :)

Who should it be address to?

My Prof is asking if they need to be addressed to someone specific or not?

Thanks for the help!

Even though I really want a LOR from this Professor, I feel like I'm far to busy with schoolwork and studying for the LSAT to sit down to learn how to write a LOR. But at the same time, I think he's asking me to write it because he is far to busy. I already have 4 other LORs from employers and other professors, is it worth it for me to stress out over this single LOR? Should I kindly ask him to write it or should I just give up on his letter entirely? The thing about this professor in specific is I've known him and kept in touch with him for about 4 years, so I feel that his LOR will shed light on our long-standing academic relationship. Any advice?

Hi all -

I started my course of study focusing pretty much exclusively on LGs (my first PT was a 159, -4 RC, -13 LG, -avg 5.5 on LR, so the what needed improving seemed clear) and am now in a place where I'm pretty happy with them.

The problem is now LR. On average I'm still -3 or -4 per section, and I just can't seem to crack the most difficult questions. Get them wrong ~50% of the time on BR, get them wrong in the little bit of time I have to check my answers in section.

So - any tips or strategies for approaching difficult (4 or 5 pip) LRs? Thanks in advance!

I watched JY's explanation video and I see why B is correct, but I'm still confused why D isn't either. It says "if ALL farmers..." in the premise, so how isn't it overlooking that possibility?

After having took 5 practice tests and done probably 50 different logic games, I have come across my number 1 enemy: drawing the initial board. Not even figuring inferences, but simply figuring out if it’s sequence or grouping and drawing a board accordingly. Does anyone have any tips for figuring out the kind of board to draw?

This is an inference question and I put the answer as A.

Can anyone explain to me why A is incorrect and why D is correct?

I am a little unsure on the order in which to compile application materials. I am taking my first LSAT on September 10th and will be applying ED in October. Can I purchase CAS before I have my LSAT score and LOR's submitted?

What does your daily study routine look like? How many hours? What do you do?

I'm currently doing about 2-3 hrs/day prepping for October, mainly drilling and reviewing full sections. I don't know if that's too little/too much (working too). Thoughts?

Looking to score over a 160. Just took the August test and got a 152.

I did Princeton Review and Kaplan and was not a fan of either. I need a structured study plan to get me to my goal. Needs to be flexible.

Weakest section is Logic Reasoning. The strongest is Logic Games, but I want to get my LG down to (-2) max. I'm anywhere from a -0 to -5 on an LG section.

Hi! I’m looking to form a study group or find study buddies for the October LSAT. Mainly to hold each other accountable and even go on FaceTime/video call to study together. My availability varies, but I am usually deee evenings into the night as I work full-time. Let me know!

One of my main law school choices is UCLA. But the deadline to submit the application to UCLA is February 1, 2023, which is also the date which January 2023 LSAT results will be released. Is it possible to apply on exactly February 1?

Is there a way to request results on the LSAT to be released early?

Hi everybody, I just got my score back yesterday for the August test, it was a 169. This was my second take this year (4th take overall). I have a 3.86 GPA and I am 2 years out of college working in my state's legislature. My dream schools would be Georgetown or Duke for public interest law, and I was hoping to get a 171+ to be above their median.

I have begun drafting my statements for the application and want to turn them in as early as possible. Studying for another retake while working on my statements would likely delay when I turn in the applications. In the month leading up to taking the test, I had multiple PT scores that were above 171, which is the reason why I think retaking might be beneficial. I also took a 2 week break, so I now feel like I could contribute significant effort to studying once again.

Does anybody have advice on whether or not to retake? I understand many aspects of this make it a personal decision, but even any anecdotes or words of encouragement would be tremendously helpful. Thanks!

Explanation (2 mins): https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-40-section-1-question-21/

Question 21 on PrepTest 40 Section 1:

Pizzerias are the only restaurants that routinely record the names, addresses, and menu selections of their customers. Simply by organizing these data, they can easily identify regular, average, and infrequent customers. Therefore, pizzerias utilize direct-mail marketing more effectively than do other restaurants.

Which one of the following, if assumed, enables the argument's conclusion to be properly inferred?

The answer: Answer choice E

Restaurants that routinely record names, addresses, and menu selections of their customers always utilize direct-mail marketing more effectively than do any other restaurants.

What? How are we able to conclude such a strong statement?

From my understanding, the argument structure is very simple. The second sentence in this question is complete fluff. The first sentence provides the premise and the third sentence is the conclusion.

Let's use variables to diagram the logic:

A = Restaurants that routinely record

B = Pizzerias

C = Utilize direct-mail marketing more effectively

First sentence gives: A -> B (Restaurants that record -> Pizzerias)

Answer choice E provides: A -> C (Restaurants that record -> utilize direct-mail)

Conclusion says: B -> C (Pizzerias -> utilize direct-mail)

But using the premise in the first sentence and the assumption provided by the answer, we only get B some C. We can conclude that SOME pizzerias utilize direct-mail marketing more effectively than other restaurants. The conclusion is a general blanket statement that would include all pizzerias (I think).

What am I misunderstanding here? This question has been giving me a lot of headache, thanks to those who took the time to discuss in advance!

Is there a limit to how many times you can buy score preview with the new rules? I used it for the August 2022 test, and I bought it for the October test too. I'm trying to register for November, but it's not showing up in my cart.

So a Professor I asked a letter for had me amend the form multiple times as per them moving around and what not, but now I'm worried about the letter number on the form. Do law schools care if it says L8 for example on the letter form even though I have like 3 recommenders?

Running into this problem when I try to link prepplus with account. I think this is due to previously linking prepplus with another 7sage account( an old one I thought I lost).

Would there be anyways to resolve this?

Best,

Ricky

Hey guys,

I've been studying for around 4 months and I've been getting quite discouraged by the big differences in my practice test and blind review scores, and was hoping to see if i could get any advice from anyone whose had similar experiences as me.

I have done around 20 practice tests and noticed that when i do them completely untimed, I get high around a 170 (give and take 3-4 points) However, the problem is that when i do them under timed settings, my score drops all the way down to 159-160s... its really concerning me, especially that i have a test scheduled this September.

Any advice would be appreciated! (Would also like to know how long you guys think the process of passing this timed vs untimed hurdle might take)

Thanks,

-K

I have recently come across a challenging hurdle for me in setting up game boards. I have been splitting boards when i get an X/Y inference but when I watch the explanation video JY doesnt do it, but he will for other games. Is there a clear cut way to know when to split a game board? and if not is there something I can infer off the bat from the rules that would hint whether or not I needed to split it?

August LSAT is my first official LSAT attempt, I got 165. This score is 5 more points than the 75th percentile of my target school. I think chances to be admitted is quite sure. So right now my question is that should I retake the LSAT to secure more scholarship? I checked the 509 report, I think maybe I can get more than half scholarship. But it is still too expensive for me, I need the full scholarship.

So here is the question:

1.Go ahead to apply with my current score. The good thing of this is that I save time and don't have to do it again. And also I can submit early, I think this would increase my chance of scholarship, but I am not sure, pls correct me if I am wrong. The bad thing is that my score is not super high enough to secure full scholarship. But, wait, am I wrong to think in this way. The higher above 75th percentile, the bigger scholarship?

So if I get higher score, then apply on Nov 2, is my chance to get full scholarship biggest?

The bad thing about this plan is I retake, but not good score, then I am late in applying. And then does it mean I screw myself?

Really need advice!

All,

After repeatedly getting diagnostics in the 130's I decided to get 7sage in January 2021. I foolishly believed that I only needed help with Logic Games and put the bulk of my focus there but I realized Logic Games was taking me a REALLY long term to get through so I decided midway through 2021 to go through the entire CC in order beginning with lesson one. I also decided I wouldn't do another PT until I have finished the CC and have a solid understanding of how this exam works. Sometimes, I would spend hours slaving over a topic until I understood it and as such my progress through the CC has been slower than I hoped for. Am I taking the right approach? Is there a better approach to this?

I find it very helpful in LR and RC to silently mouth the words while I am reading. It helps me better taken in the information, is this allowed on the test or will my mouth moving get flagged?

Is it possible to retake just the writing without the whole LSAT? I'm happy with my score but don't love my writing sample.

Sorry -- I'm sure this answer is already out there somewhere but I'm having a weirdly hard time finding it.

Thank you!

Hi everyone, just received my first LSAT score and wanted to share my thoughts on what helped me get there. Like some people on this forum, I started prepping late and was working full time while doing prep.

I started prepping for the test in May 2022 with the intent of taking the test in August. At first, I thought "nah I have so much time", so I took the entire May to just slowly work my way through Powerscore's LG bible. I then did my first PT, scored a 158 and was sort of encouraged by this score because I needed a 166 to get into my target school, and I wasn't quite aware of how hard/easy it is to increase your score. I was also working full time through the summer, though my job was chill so I wasn't coming home feeling like I'm done with life, which I'm sure helped with the prep. My weakest section was LG (when I started, it would take me about two hours to complete one logic game), and my RC/LR were generally in the -2 to -6 range from the start (my undergrad was in philosophy so I suspect it helped).

My main issue was getting overwhelmed with the LGs. I would get stuck on a question, then start freaking out that I'm spending too much time on this question so I won't finish the section on time, so I might as well just quit. My PTs quickly went into 165-166 but then I stayed there for two-ish months, then I slowly started getting 168-169, and just the week before the test I scored my first 170. I then did my actual test and received a 171 this morning.

With this out of the way, here are some things that I believe helped me score a 171 on the test day:

No PTs on the test week. I knew that if I scored low, I'd be discouraged and it would impact my test day performance. My mental fatigue was starting to show, so I knew that even if I did several PTs on the test week and did well on them, I would get super tired and my brain would turn into mashed potatoes on the test day. Whatever gains were promised by trying to develop the stamina during the final week didn't seem to justify the risks.

Eating a big, delicious breakfast on the test day. This one might seem like a very minor point, but once you consistently score within your target range, then you have the ability that you need to do well, doing well on the LSAT comes down to winning the mental game. Eating breakfast sausages with bacon and eggs really helped me win the mental game and feel good before the test.

Don't burn through the study material just because you feel like a loser. This one was big for me. I would take a PT, then score 3-4 points below my average, then I'd get mad at myself for being stupid, then I'd take another PT, do even worse, then the cycle repeats. By the end, I have wasted the study material and learned nothing valuable. You can spend hours doing really inefficient prep and learning next to nothing just because you feel like "I must keep prepping! My life=prep, nothing else matters". This was my mindset very often, and it only made me feel worse for not progressing faster. Instead, what I found helpful was to allow your mind to really rest. My best PT performance was after taking a week-long break and doing zero prep during this week, and I think that doing something similar during the week before the test helped me immensely.

Having a game plan for when you're experiencing test-day paralysis. If you're like me, then you worry that you'll get stuck and unable to progress through the test, which will start a chain of psychological events that make you shrivel up on the inside and want to terminate the test right then. Acknowledge this and develop an action plan for what you do when this happens. For me, it was a very deliberate breathing exercise, where I would take 15-30 seconds (yes, you must sacrifice time to gain something more valuable -- a clear mind and an ability to keep going) and do deep breathing.

Understanding that the LSAT is not a mysterious magical ritual. This one was by far one of the most helpful things in winning the mental game. To do well on the LSAT, you don't need to grasp some deep mysteries and hope that it works. The LSAT made by humans like you and I, who're sitting there and creating problems with predictable patterns. It is a standardized test whose complexity is limited by the ability of those nerds (sorry LSAT-makers) to create convoluted problems. They're trying to confuse you and scare you, but they're just applying simple psychological tricks -- you're better than that, you can recognize these tricks, understand how to solve these problems, and be smarter than them.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to post them here or DM!

All the best to you my friends