I saw on the preptest list there is pt 90 may 2020 and pt 90 without a date attached to it. Are those two different exams?

I have scored 163-165 on my last 10 PTs. Sitting around -3 LR, -2 LG, -7 RC. However, this is inconsistent. The only pattern I can really see is the higher difficulty questions (level 4 and 5) trip me up. Any tips of nailing these down?

For those that got the retake, how do you go about signing up for a spot on proctor u?

Hi all, I am registered for the April 2022 LSAT and started working through the core curriculum in mid October. I work 40-50 hours a week for a bank's legal department and I am only able to study for about 18-20 hours a week. According to 7Sage's study schedule I will not complete everything, including all of the prep tests, until next October if I am studying for 18 hours a week. My plan is to complete the core curriculum and then do 2-3 prep tests per week from there and get through however many I am able to complete between when I am done with the core curriculum and the real test, but I know I will not be able to complete all of them. Once I'm ready for prep tests, should I start from newer ones and work my way back towards older ones so that I'm working on tests that are (I'm assuming) more similar to the test I will take? Or oldest to newest? Or maybe start somewhere in the middle? Any advice is appreciated!

I apologize for how long this is, but I wanna make sure I give enough details.

So I just took the November LSAT and it went veryyy bad. To start, my grandfather passed away yesterday, so I spent the whole day with my family, not thinking about the LSAT at all. Today, I really tried to refocus before my 2:40 test, and I was hoping that I’d be too distracted by the test to think about everything going on, which was somewhat the case.

However, my dogs were barking like maniacs the entire first half until the break when I was able to quiet them down. My first section (LR) was awful. I was so distracted by the nonstop barking that I couldn’t process a single question. I was so stressed out I wanted to cry. I did my best but honestly, I didn’t feel 100% about any of them and usually I feel at least pretty sure about 75% of the LR section, and will get about 4/5 wrong. My second section was RC which is usually my worst section but I actually felt like it went better than LR.

After the break, I was less distracted but still flustered because of how bad I started out. LG, which is usually my best, seemed like it went ok until the end when I got short on time and wasn’t 100% about the last couple. My last section was RC and was worse than the first RC. I ran out of time and had to guess on the last 3/4.

Overall I just don’t feel good about it. For my June test, I felt pretty good coming out of it and ended up with a 165. I stopped studying until the end of Sept. when I decided to take the November LSAT. My PTs during those 5ish weeks ranged from 160-171. Ultimately, I’m not sure if I should cancel or just hope that maybe it’ll only be a few points lower like 161/162 and maybe that won’t look awful?? I’m also nervous that if I do end up getting significantly lower then admissions officers will wonder why I didn’t cancel. I’m just not sure what to do. The schools that I’m hoping to get into have medians that are 165, 167, 169, which is why I was hoping to boost my score even just a point.

Does anyone understand this question?

I got letter D as my answer, but it is wrong and there is no explanation videos to help me understand.

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My LSAT journey has, at long last, come to an end and I have several books that are now in need of new homes. As I am in Seattle and shipping is expensive for the heavy tomes, I will only be offering them for local pickup. One per customer, and please only request if you are unable to afford these on your own. I know some LSAT materials can be cost prohibitive, it is my hope to mitigate that for a few folks. Here's what I've got:

-The Loophole in Logical Reasoning

-10 Actual, Official LSAT Preptests (52-61)

-PowerScore LSAT Logic Games Bible (2015 edition)

-PowerScore LSAT Logic Games Bible Workbook (2015 edition)

-The Fox LSAT Logic Games Playbook

Please PM me to request, again, only if in the Seattle area!

Based on some recent RC translation drills, I've been struggling with "main purpose" questions. It seems I don't have a super crisp understanding of what it is, which was painful to realize and seems kind of silly since it's so basic. But yeah I'd really like to nip this in the bud when it's so foundational and would appreciate 7Sage feedback.

Here's where I'm at. I thought purpose refers to the WHY -- Why is the author telling me about this topic? What is their intent? But I recently realized this approach/question causes me extrapolate too far to come up with an answer. I'll mix perceived attitude or off-hand comments in the passage into an incorrect "purpose" summary.

Can you help explain "main purpose" in RC? How do you approach it? How does it connect back to MP? Thanks!

I need advice on how to study for a retake after experiencing technical difficulties on November LSAT. I have not had much luck with the remote LSAT as I had technical difficulties back in June 2021 as well.

I am trying to hit solid 150s on an official take. My June 2021 score was a few points away from the 150s. I would still like to apply this cycle and take off.

Thank you and good luck all.

I just took PTJ07 and as soon as I finished my brain felt fatigued already. Is it recommended to immediately go into blind review as soon as it’s finished? Or is it better to do the BR the next day to get optimal scores? Or would doing it the next day be detrimental to the process?

Hi!

What is the best way to answer the question "Are you applying, or have you applied, to other law schools? If so, please list them."

Is it better not to answer?

Thank you!

Hi,

I took the LSAT today and had technical difficulties, therefore I was granted a retest. This was my first time taking the LSAT so I purchased Score Preview. According to LSAC, I cannot use Score Preview again since I am technically not a first time test taker.

Will I be able to see my score if I opt for the retest?

If I cancel my score and take the next offered LSAT will I be able to see my previous score and use Score Preview if necessary.

Lastly, as score preview cancellations counts as candidate cancel - do cancelations and retest count the original cancelled test as candidate cancel, or show no record of it? ... Will the test I took today be notated as cancelled, if I opt for the retest?

What do you think my best course of action is given that I have Score Preview? - Im thinking opt for retest since the technical issues definitely affected my score.

Thanks so much.

I got approved to take the November 23rd test after the technical disaster that happened.

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official November 2021 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the November LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, November 16.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

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Good luck to everyone taking the November LSAT!

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Has anyone done this PT and have insight into how to solve this question? I understand why B is correct (the stimulus says that lemurs, which are lower primates, are the only primates indigenous to Madagascar), but I'm not sure why you cannot also infer A. The only living diurnal lower primates are certain species of lemurs, and higher primates evolved from a diurnal species of lower primate. Therefore, chimpanzee's, which are higher primates, evolved from lemurs.

WAIT, I get it. If the stimulus said that the only diurnal lower primates (DLP) EVER were lemurs, then A would be correct. But, it actually says the only living DLPs are lemurs. Therefore, there could have been some other DLP in the past that was not a lemur from which chimpanzees evolved. So we cannot properly infer A!

Posting in case anyone else needs an explanation because there are no official ones yet for this PT. Classic LSAT with the sneaky wording.

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I have a random question LMAO! If in a grouping logic game the rule is: if W then T or F

does that mean that if I have T or F in the yes/in group, I must have W as well

or can I have T or F without the W

I just finished my test and I am extremely upset and disappointed. The first half of the exam went well and I had no issues at all. However, after the 10 minute intermission I continuously got a message saying that the page was unresponsive (by continuously I mean several times within the minute). So basically, the whole second half of the test I lost a lot of my time and was distracted. I'm still hoping I somehow do good but the experience was horrible and if I had to test again I would wait to test in person. Has anyone had a similar experience?

Got 161 in August, tried again with this one in November and bombed hard (will see if I can appeal the tech issues like everyone else)

I don't think I have what it takes anymore after two years of studying.

I know I shouldn't be angry at a 80th percentile score, considering Hispanics get below 150, (don't wanna even imagine Autists or DACA recipients)

I just wanna say I'm glad for everyone who helped me when I asked hundreds of questions!

Apologies if you see me upset with how emotional I really felt about this. ASD people can get severe emotional reaction and for me getting wrong questions was really bad for me. I just got upset that I didn't get my goal of 163 to get the medium for UF in fear that this will lower my chances (161, URM, 3.47 CAS GPA)

Anyways, on my way to do ED for University of FL lol

Took the LSAT yesterday. After my 10 minute break it took an additional 20 minutes for me to connect with a proctor and re-enter the test. I was terrified that something had gone wrong (I sent them a message every few minutes with zero response), but everything was smooth afterwards.

Just wanted to let test takers know that this is a possibility to be prepared for!

Hello 7Sagers,

For those who have already tested, I hope you crushed!!

For those testing tomorrow and Sunday, a word of advice:

Have this page readily available in case your proctor is unaware of LSAC policy:

https://www.lsac.org/about/lsac-policies/lsac-candidate-agreement

My proctor disallowed my water bottle even though it met the specified requirements. Thankfully I had another one available that he deemed OK so I didn't have to get into it with him -- but looking back on it (hindsight's 20/20 of course), it would have been better to just show him the policy straight from LSAC and end the matter right there.

So this is not a bash on the proctor or anything -- they proctor a range of tests so it's completely understandable that they don't know every single LSAC rule -- but just a reminder to (politely) show them the reference if you have to and carry on smartly.

Hope this helps!

Hi all

I worked through the 7sage curriculum and saw a pretty huge score increase (143 diagnostic up to a high of 159, averaging high 150's now). Logical Reasoning is definitely my 'weak' point, especially factoring in there being two LR sections. I want to leave time to just do practice tests leading up to the exam. My question is, having done the LR portion of the curriculum in the summer, and starting out completely unfamiliar with the test, should I just go through the 7sage LR lessons again, or should I try out the Loophole? I really only have time for one.

Hey guys! I'm taking the test tomorrow and I'm quite excited to take it (believe it or not). What are some ways to maintain positive energy levels and motivation going into the test and during? For me what has worked the most is quick meditation early in the morning and treating the test like four section tests instead of viewing it as a daunting 3-hour exam. The first time I took the exam I was blindsided by the order of the first section and that feeling lingered onto the remaining sections. NEVER AGAIN!

I'm going to do a few drills today and watch a movie and rest the remainder of the day.

Sending everyone taking the November test positive energy and manifesting that we all reach our goal scores! All the best :)

Hi All,

I had the chance to do an LR question again for a recent tutoring session and noticed a few things that could be helpful for your prep. One question I find a lot of students asking me is, "What do I do if I don't see the flaw?" Let's use this FLAW question as a model for possible approaches. (Try doing it on your own if you haven't. The answer is below)

PT 59 S3 20:

P: the lightest moths with the greatest contrast were most likely to be eaten

C: therefore, the darkest moths were least likely to be eaten

At first glance, the argument looks solid. If you're like me and don't know much about moths, you probably thought, "ok yeah of course dark moths would be more likely to survive than light moths...what's the issue? obviously, there's something I'm missing here."

It'd be great if you can immediately diagnose the flaw (authors assumes a false dichotomy). But what do you do if you can't see the flaw? You gotta find ways to finesse!

Let me suggest how:

(1) Start with the big picture: Focus on improving your comprehension of the argument by simplifying it into your own words. The battle is always won in the stimulus, and an argument is always a conclusion being supported by premises. Make sure you get to the core of it.

(2) Zoom in on the details: Next, look to the descriptor words and consider what is being compared to get your clues. At least for this particular question, ​the author is comparing the Darkest/Lightest moths, with the Greatest contrast, and arguing which among them is Most/Least likely to be eaten.

These words indicate extremes--colors and probabilities. Hmm...if there is a darkest/lightest, then there has to be varying degrees of color in between, right?" HA I see it now! Before, I assumed that there was a dichotomy between ​dark vs light moths. Now I realize, oh! there has to be a spectrum between the darkest to lightest! There must to be moths of varying degrees of darkness and lightness in between. Perhaps grey shaded moths have higher rates of survival! Got it.

And that's why D is the answer.

How did we get here? We started with the big picture, zoomed in to the details, and focused on the most relevant parts of the argument to improve our comprehension, then found clues that led us to the flaw.

I hope this helps you find new steps to take next time you're stuck wondering what to do next!

Hey guys! I had a hard time with October because I was too tired to finish the test. How should I build enough stamina to do the whole test? Any tips?

Thanks!

I am taking the test for the first time tomorrow at 2:40 and I'm not sure if I should take PT92+ just to have one more under my belt. Thoughts? Pros and Cons? Thank you all!! And good luck if you're taking November!