Hi 7Sagers,

First of all, congratulations to all who received their target score from the August administration today.

I'll be the first to admit that I am not in that category. On various forums and social media accounts, I've seen a number of folks describing a phenomenon that is similar to my experience, so I wanted to relate that information here to see if others have encountered it as well.

I started studying about one year ago, using a combination of 7Sage, LSAT Trainer, and more recently, the Loophole. My first ever diagnostic was 150, but by the end of the study year (August), I was consistently scoring in the mid-to-upper 160s, even on the most recent practice tests. My last ten PTs ranged between 164-168, with the more recent exams being closer to the 168 mark. During the actual administration, I felt fairly clear-minded and confident. I know now that my first section was experimental, and I felt that the sections actually played to my strengths fairly well.

So, I was pretty devastated to get a score this morning in the mid-150s. Basically, my PT average had dropped by ~10 points, and I'm pretty shattered. However, I'm also surprised to see so many others sharing a similar experience on various threads. Because this exam is undisclosed, it's really hard to gains specific insights into where things went so awry.

So here's my question - and I promise it's not bitter blood - but rather a recognition that others have recounted a similar experience during this administration: could the LSAC have overcorrected the curve for the past August administration?

I understand why the correct answer choice is correct because if robots were the only things going out to space, then why do we need to know anything about human limits but I don't understand why B is incorrect. Isn't the stimulus making the assumption that astronauts share these human limitations? Am I reading this wrong?

There seems to be a massive uproar on Reddit about this. I'm sure it happens every test but this one just feels odd to me.

I did much, much worse than my last LSAT and am completely devastated. Months of hard work and money have gone into this exam with nothing to show for it other than a worse official score.

I just hate how much of this exam makes a difference for law school admissions. After today, I feel like it's time to give up on those law school dreams.

Am I the only one who feels like this?

I took the August LSAT at scored a 165. My average PT was around a 167/168, so I feel a little let down because I know that I can do better. After august, I have continued to study and have been doing even better, with most of my PT scores being 170+. If I take the test in October and somehow to worse than I did in the August, how does that work? Will schools still look at my highest score? Or will they just see that my score went down and hold that against me?

Hola 7Sagers:

While anxiously anticipating my August LSAT score, I checked my LSAC account and noticed that the percentile of my May score shifted downwards significantly. Initially, LSAC considered my 163 to be in the 86th percentile. As of now, it declined to the 83rd. Prior to the insanity of 2020, a 163 was considered to be in the 87.84th percentile, per the 7Sage percentile chart.

TLDR: A 163 went from being in the ~87th percentile to being in the ~83rd. That isn't insignificant.

I was hoping people could share their scores and percentiles on this thread, especially since law schools and LSAC are slow to update their new medians and score data, respectively. This would help us determine where we are in relation to our peers and inform our decisions regarding whether to retake the exam at a later date.

Muchas gracias!

Admin Note:

Hey everyone,

We're trying to figure out what the most recent percentile conversion is so if you took the August LSAT, please email your official LSAT score to studentservice@7sage.com. Here's what we have so far:

180 - 99th (confirmed)

179 - 99th (confirmed)

178 - 99th (confirmed)

177 - 99th (confirmed)

176 - 99th (confirmed)

175 - 99th (confirmed)

174 - 99th (confirmed)

173 - 98th (confirmed)

172 - 98th (confirmed)

171 - 97th (confirmed)

170 - 96th (confirmed)

169 - 95th (confirmed)

168 - 94th (confirmed)

167 - 93rd (confirmed)

166 - 91st (confirmed)

165 - 896h (confirmed)

164 - 87th (confirmed)

163 - 84th (confirmed)

162 - 82nd (confirmed)

161 - 79th (confirmed)

160 - 76th (confirmed)

159 - 73rd (confirmed)

158 - 69th (confirmed)

157 -

156 - 62nd (confirmed)

155 - 59th (confirmed)

154 - 55th (confirmed)

153 - 51st (confirmed)

152 -

151 -

150 -

149 - 36th (confirmed)

148 - 33rd (confirmed)

147 -

146 -

145 -

144 -

143 -

142 -

141 - 13th (confirmed)

140 -

Thank you!

Disappointed with score from Aug test, scored 10 points lower than PT average and depleted all recent PTs from 60-89. Just for some context: my cumulation upga is 3.7 (poli sci & econ double majors) from a liberal arts school and am currently getting a master's in ed policy from a top school and have 4 years of professional experience in international development, law, research work. I am trying to apply to t-14 schools. Would you recommend cancelling this score through the score preview option for first time test takers? Also went through a lot of life-altering events in the past couples of months - death and divorce in the family and minimal support system+ mental health issues so I am happy to be able to take the test for the first time amidst all that. Not complaining about getting a 162, I started with a 142 and English is my third language, so I made progress. Just trying to figure out what next possible steps should be if I am trying to apply to t-14 schools. I want to do international human rights law so schools with international recognition and good human rights law clinics are important for me. I am lost, also sad, so any recommendations from the amazing community here is appreciated.

Hey guys!

I currently have a small GroupMe going with around 8 other people (mostly high 160s-170 scorers). Right now most of us are taking 1-2 PT's a week to prepare for the October LSAT. If anyone is interested in doing group Blind Review's of the RC/LR sections for those tests, please feel free to join the groupme link I've posted below! Preferably it would be most helpful for other somewhat mid 160+ scorers (as for the sake of time we are matching answers and really going into depth on the harder questions we find)! My personal average is around 170 - but ranging anywhere from 165 (lowest) -179 (highest) on the last 9 PT's I've taken!

Note: We are mostly taking PT's in the 70s-80s to get the most recent capture of PT's before the actual test.

Please join if you feel it would be helpful! We've only had one session with a couple of us so far - but found the method to be really helpful in seeing other people's POV's on question types etc.!

Good luck with the remainder of 2021 testing!

https://groupme.com/join_group/70353139/YEVzThZA

So putting aside the fact that I feel like an idiot for missing question 1....why is B incorrect? When I read it the first time, I thought it was correct because if someone were trying to maintain their reduced weight, wouldn't a diet be a poor option for them because once it's over, wouldn't they go back to eating their pre-diet level of food and gain weight?

Someone on the Manhattan forum mentioned that this choice uses the word "should" and therefore it is wrong, but I didn't think that was good enough of a reason. I do see that the stimulus doesn't talk about recommendations or what people should and shouldn't do but if answer choice C had said the word should, the content of this choice would still make it correct, wouldn't it?

Long story short I have been with a tutor since MAY trying to learn a method where you hardly read the passage (only first sentence of each and last sentence of passage) then for every question it’s basically a word search

I’m finding this method just doesn’t work. I’ve been questioning for months whether im an idiot or not but after practice testing with this method and getting 4 correct because her instructions lead me to the wrong answers I think I should change. The worst I did with powerscore method of ViewSTAMP was -9 so missing this many with this new method i’ve been paying for months is really upsetting. Sometimes her method works, for example certain passage sets I will only miss a couple but I really can’t afford to take this gamble anymore. Her method is not consistent with all passages I am finding.

Anyways, i’m testing in October and I NEED advice on how to improve by then in that section even if that means dropping this method and doing something else. What did you do for RC? It’s my worst section and I kind of suck at reading. Whatis easiest for you to understand the passage and helps the most when answering questions. Any advice you can give or tips for me to try is much appreciated

Thank you

I’m pretty happy with my score for the August LSAT but wouldn’t mind trying for a slightly higher one in November. I’m wondering if anyone can speak to how it would work in the admissions process if say,

My apps are due Nov. 1st and include my first score.

My hypothetical November score gets reported mid December.

Would my new score really make a difference? Are admissions officers alerted of new score postings in the middle of the review process?

Thanks in advance for any insight.

Is there a technique you all use to help reset your brains after you get done doing the first two sections?

I’ve noticed my second LR section score is always almost lower than my first section because I start feeling burned out. Does anyone have a solid technique that helps them reset mentally during the midway break?

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Hi everyone. I just got my score today which was a 154. I had been hoping for around a 155 to 160. Would anyone say that a 154 is a good score? It's at the 55th percentile.

I'm not trying to go to a top 20 law school. My target school is a top 50 school ranked in the 40's though my score is below the 25th percentile. According to the 7sage law school predictor tool I have a 54 percent chance of getting in since I'd do the early admissions decision. Would you guys suggest I give applying a shot or should I retake for a higher score in November?

Can you apply to a school and later retake the LSAT if you are rejected to a law school? If that's the case perhaps I could apply and if rejected, apply again next year.

When will schools release their 2020 medians?

I scored 160 on both the April and August tests. I'm wondering if it's worth it to retake in November with the help of a tutor. Anyone have experience in the same situation?

I understand that most law schools have rolling admissions and I have read and heard people say the earlier you apply the better chance you have. Is this true? Because I am aiming for Fall 2023 and my plan is to take 2022 April, June, Oct, and apply after I get satisfying scores from any of those tests.

I appreciate all of you guys' opinion and thank you!

Has anyone had their icons turn gray yet? I took the LSAT on August 15th and scores were scheduled to be released today, 9/10. However, I’ve seen online that people say your icons should go grey on the day of score release and then sometime that day you will actually get your score. But my icons are still green..

Hello 7Sage friends,

While I am critical of some of Powerscore's methodologies, I think their free Crystal Balls are worth a listen. You can still sign up for the one they're hosting on 9/12/21 for the October LSAT on their website.

If you can just derive a peace-of-mind from having attended the event, rather than considering yourself as having obtained some woo-woo powers because you listened to it, I'd recommend to check it out.

Cheers and happy studying.

hi there! I just took PT 76 (shoutout to @lsat_sus btw, ill be joining your call with @canihazJD tomorrow!) and I scored a 157 (flex version). My LG was a -1, but my LR was a -10. Does anyone have any recommendations on how I should do deep analysis of the LR questions I got wrong in order to improve for next time? I feel like I do not have a good break-down process and I really want to breakthrough into the 160s.

So I have a question concerning the LSAT scoring vs. LSAT flex scoring. I took the June LSAT, so I was studying with the flex, now I'm studying with the full four section test since I'm retaking in October, which is not the flex. The scoring is kind of confusing to me. These past few tests I have taken I've scored 157, 158, missing around 28 questions (across all four sections). On my previous tests, that were flex, when I missed that many, my score was much worse. I know the year of the test can kind of fluctuate scoring as well, but I was comparing tests from the same year (2010, still in the last decadeish), that were only a few months apart. Am I spending too much time looking at the number of questions missed, and should I just focus on the score I got? Is it because for these tests it's -28 over 4 sections whereas with the flex it would be -28 over 3, therefore resulting in a worse score? I don't want to get too into my head about this because I do feel like I am improving, but I wanted to make sure!

Now that I'm thinking about this a bit more; is it because only 3 sections are factored into your score, but 7sage shows how many were incorrect over all 4 sections? I feel like this is a very confusing question, but I hope someone can try and clarify it for me!

Hey 7sagers,

Hope everyone's doing well. I am currently working on my personal statement and diversity statements and I was wondering if anyone knows of a specific tutor or company that help with revising and editing essays. If anyone has any positive personal experience with a specific tutor or company please mention them.

Thank you and good luck to everyone waiting for their scores tomorrow!

I'm wondering if it's somewhat too late to try to get the admissions consulting package for the 2022 cycle and make the most of it if I want to submit all of my applications by October. I've just seen that some people spend months with the consultants. I wish I got it sooner :(. Pls any info would help!

Hi everyone,

I am retaking the test in October. I am currently stuck at 169-170 on my PTs. I am really hoping to get that up to 173+ by the October test. Does anyone have any tips on how to narrow down what to focus on? I get about -3 to -5 on both LR and RC just depends on the test. I am having trouble pin pointing where I go wrong in LR because at this point there's no specific question type that I am having trouble with. I'm finding that with the few questions I do get wrong on LR I'm usually down to 2 answer choices but end up picking the wrong one. It's so frustrating. If anyone has any tips on how to avoid this please let me know!

Also, if anyone has any insight on how to get over this hump and make it to the mid 170s please feel free to share!

I didn't understand the explanation for the right/wrong answer choices on this one at all. Can anyone help? I initially chose (C) on my PT and I still don't understand how that could be wrong, especially in contrast to answer (A).

Thanks!

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My mans scored multiple 180s on timed PTs, averaged 180 BR's leading to his exam and scored an official 172. He currently attends a T-14 school with a hunky dory chunk of mula bula.

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