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Taking the November LSAT this week and I’m feeling the first test jitters. I don’t think my score will be anywhere near where I want it to be. However, I’m planning to retake in January. Am I setting myself for failure by doing this and applying in February? Will I automatically get rejected and/or waitlisted? Should I just wait for the next cycle?

Im not planning on going to any of the T14 schools. Im aiming for law schools with ABA accredited part-time remote programs.

If a university's personal statement prompt doesn't mention "why our school," would you still end on a note highlighting that specific university? Or would you just end stating why you want to attend law school in general?

I began studying for the LSAT in January of this year and bought my 7sage subscription in February. I began studying off and on (life happens) until August. Once August rolled around, I took off from my job to study really hard for a month before the October LSAT. I spent hours a day studying and would take one practice test a week for a month. For reference, my diagnostic score was a 156, and I had taken 2 PT in June with a score of 156 and 154 respectively. AS I began to study and take my weekly PT in the month leading up to the October test. I had the following 3 scores in order: 154, 152, 157 (BR: 156, 158, 157).

I just got my October score back today an I scored a 162, which is the highest score I've ever received (I've never gotten a BR score that high) That puts me at the 81st percentile and I am super happy with my score. The law school I want to attend (though please understand I'll be applying to more than just this school) has a 50th percentile of 156 and a 25th percentile of a 159. I'll have a 3.99 GPA by the time I graduate so I have no worries there.

While I haven't continued such a strenuous study regime. I do practice problems once a week as the head of the Pre-Law LSAT study group on my college campus. So I could quickly pick back up studying to improve if needed.

Given all that information, should I go back in and try to take the exam again for an even higher score, or should I take my score I have with my super high GPA, along with a really good personal statement and try to get into school with what I have?

All of your responses are greatly appreciated and I wish you all the best of luck on your own LSAT journeys! You can do it!

Wishing everyone well!

My first LSAT was 8/24 and I got a 156. My most recent one was 10/24 and I managed to raise my score to a 166 which is odd because at the time I was Pting around 160. Even recently I have not scored a PT over 166 at all. I am signed up for November but i'm thinking of canceling and just applying with the 166. My GPA is not the highest (3.3) but i'm burnt out and working on apps. I almost think i'm scoring worse now compared with 2 weeks ago. Should I chance it but risk getting a worse score than 166? Any advice?

I am scoring in the 165-167 range on my PTs and want to be hitting about 171 for the November LSAT. I am consistently missing only two questions on RC and getting them all right in blind review. On my last PT, the only reason I didn't get just one wrong on RC is because my time ran out and I couldn't answer it. My LR is obviously less consistent, (-3 and -8 on my last PT, 165). My question is whether I should focus all of my attention on LR in the next few weeks or try to get those easier-to-reach extra two points on RC first. Might be a dumb question just due to nerves kicking in, but curious what the best way to organize my study would be.

1-1 anyone? I am willing to add any social and work together to crack this thing!

Hello friends, I have been studying over the last 4 months and have seen a SIGNIFICANT improvement on my LR, currently averaging about 1-4 incorrect per section. However, my Reading comp has remained horrible, averaging about 10-13 incorrect per section. I have tried many different reading comp methods over the last couple of months to no avail. I am very desperate for any RC tips you may have since the November test will likely be my final test before applying to law school. I am currently sitting around a 162 and if my RC was similar to that of my LR, I would be able to score around a 169-170 range, hence the urgency.

Hello,

I was wondering how you all approach question stems asking you to identify a term or expression that someone in the stim misinterprets or misunderstands? I haven't seen this question type a lot, but I'm not too confident whenever I do come across them...even if it's lacking in difficulty! There's no section that covers this question type in the curriculum, likely because it's so infrequent, so I'm curious how to study for it and improve!

Thanks for the help!!

I just logged on and everything is locked. Drills are locked, preptests are locked. Everything. Is there a bug?

Okay, I've been basing my applications/chances off of the admissions predictor on 7Sage......problem is I just looked the the predictor on LSAC and my odds look ALOT worse. I know LSAC doesn't have the option to choose what month you apply but even still the disconnect is making me nervous. Anyone know why this is and which is more accurate?

Help pls!!!

I began PT93 this morning, when I began it was 2 LR sections and 1 RC section. As I finished the third section, I noticed the 4th LG section. This is pointless for me to complete, but I am concerned that my general score will be impacted if I don't complete this section. Is there a way to change the format so that the results for the three sections (2 LR, 1 RC) I completed are graded and the 4th LG section is dropped?

It's upsetting to know that I worked through those three sections and I won't see accurate results because of the LG section. There should be work to get rid of this section completely.

Like the logo always reminded me of something but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. Alas, here I lay, at 2 AM, next to my sleeping lover, and I am having this eureka moment.

Do you think it was purposeful? And Like maybe that’s also why they chose the color to be blue? To make the similarity less obvious?

Also- Lawhub. Doesn’t the name remind u of a certain..ahem… website….

Hi team,

I've been meaning to write this post since I got my July score, but I wanted to give a brief recap of my LSAT experience while working full time and doing and starting an online Master's program. I got into some details about my mental state, time spent studying, and stuff like that. Sorry it's a bit long, but I figured some other stressed out/anxious people might benefit from knowing the details of what was happening in my head. The story comes first, then my general tips, and a few actual LSAT tips. Happy to answer any questions :).

#My Story

I started studying back in June 2018 and got 7sage Ultimate+, planning to take the test in September. I got a 160 on my diagnostic, so I figured I wouldn't need more than a couple months (and oh boy was I wrong!). I was also working full time in consulting in a pretty demanding role, so finding a couple hours after work wasn't feasible for a while. By the time it got to the beginning of August, I wasn't even up to logic games in the core curriculum (CC), so I decided to push my test date out to January 2019 to give myself more time. I let myself enjoy summer a bit before bearing down in the fall. Time-wise, I allocated 1-1.5 hrs of study time after work Monday-Thursday, and around 5 or 6 hours on Sundays-- I don't work on Shabbat, so I always had that break built in. This scheduled worked for me, as I had built in breaks and didn't burn out (at first).

While going through the CC, I made sure to print out multiple copies of problem sets and game sets, coming back to problem set types as I moved ahead to make sure that I didn't get to the end of the CC forgetting how to do an LR strengthening (which is more towards the beginning of the CC). This was super helpful as it let me retain and refine knowledge as well as the understanding that most LR questions are built from the same elements-- e.g. a strengthening and a weakening question can call on the same flaw/assumption in the stimulus.

When I got into practice tests, my first practice test (some time in the fall) was a 166-- I was pretty disappointed in this because I had been studying for 3+ months. Anyway, onwards. I was doing practice tests ~once/week on Sundays (blind reviewing on the same day) and doing practice sets/review during the week. I was at this point getting anywhere from 164 to 169, with one 170. LG was -2/3, LR was -4/5, and RC was -7/8. Everything I read told me that LG was the easiest to improve on, so I started doing games at every chance I could. Lunch? Cool, time for a couple games. Subway ride home? 2 or 3 games. Having trouble sleeping? I'd do a game. Waiting for a doctor's appointment? Oh you know I was hitting those grouping games. But I wouldn't just go through games absent-mindedly. As 7sage suggests, I'd foolproof every game, doing it over and over until I could get the game done quickly and perfectly. This got my prep test LG sections down to a very consistent -0, bringing my average up to 165-168 by early January (RC and LR receded a little as I focused on LG)

At some point, I realized I still wasn't going to be ready by the January 2019 test. My GPA is somewhere around 3.3, so I was targeting at least 170 to be competitive at T14 schools and all that. So, I pushed to March. At this point, however, I was really, really struggling mentally with this test. I was putting a ton of pressure on myself to perform-- I knew I knew this stupid shit, but I would freak out on LR and RC sections, missing a bunch of questions. Unfortunately, I started attaching my self-worth to my ability to get a 170 on this test...which I'd only done 2 or so times by mid-February. I kept cramming studying in to ALL of my free time, including Shabbat, and not giving myself breaks. I'd also started a Master's program online in January, while working full time, and studying...so tons of stress and no breaks.

When you're in it, it can totally feel like you need to be studying at any time that you're not studying. Fuck that!!!! Treat your mind like a muscle. It needs rest time and it will break down when you overwork it, which I was doing leading up to the March test. I'd gotten my average to 168ish at that point, and scored a 166 on the March test. While this is an excellent score, I knew I was capable of better. I do a lot of design thinking at work, so I decided to do some retrospective activities to figure out what went wrong with my studying and what could've gone better. Obviously, I didn't build in enough breaks and was putting far too much pressure on myself.

Unfortunately, when I started studying for the June test, I slipped into the same patterns I had before the March test--- any time I wasn't studying, I was thinking about the LSAT and about that magical 170 number. I'd focused down on RC and LR and had gotten my average up to around 171, which was great. For RC, I practiced the memory method a ton and learned to, as JY says, "contain my confusion" in passages, especially science. For LR, I'd developed a skipping strategy that had a fookin massive impact on my score. Unfortunately, though, as I mentioned, I was stressing myself out in crazy ways. I'm thankful for the people around me who basically forced me to take 2 weeks off, and what an incredible break it was!!!!! I forced myself to not think about the test for 2 whole weeks!!!! Then I studied a bit for 2 weeks before the test, didn't study the day before, scoring a 175 and a 174 on practice tests. I scored a 169 on the June test that I was really proud of.

HOWEVER. I still knew I could do better. I'd gotten 3 LG questions wrong!!!! It was that last game, and I couldn't stop thinking about it. I decided to take the July test, knowing that I had this great score in my back pocket and could cancel if I didn't perform. This gave me a lot of confidence, and I actually barely studied at all between the June and July tests. I took two total practice tests, one of which I'd already taken (176 and 177). I knew that confidence was going to be the biggest factor for me, so I didn't try to do too much. I breathed a lot, slept a lot, exercised a lot, and spent a lot of time with friends.

To practice for the possibility of getting the digital test, I borrowed a friend's iPad for a week and did a couple practice sections on PT 73 (which I'd already done by hand). This was to make sure I knew the mechanics of the digital test and all that. The content was gonna be the same.

Going into the July test, I went in cool as a cucumber. I knew I had this great score in my backpocket and I knew that I was going to absolutely crush it (that's what I kept telling myself---- confidence is seriously a fake it till you feel it kind of thing). I'd also listened to Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History podcast about the LSAT the day before, which talks about, essentially, the uselessness of the LSAT in determining outcomes for lawyers-- this made me feel better, knowing that the test is NOT a reflection of how good a lawyer I will be or how smart I am, but only a test of how well I can do on that test. Despite taking the test at a different facility from my first two takes with about 4x more people, and starting 2.5 hours late due to tablet issues, I kept my confidence up by closing my eyes and imagining how it was going to feel flying through the test to get my 170+. I'm thankful to have gotten a 176 on the July test and have my 13-month LSAT journey come to a close. It was a massive roller coaster of a ride, but I am THANKFUL to have gone through it. I learned a lot about myself, what works/doesn't work for me, and how to find balance.

Some thanks: 7sage for the amazing curriculm, JY's comforting and assuring voice for explaining shit in a very very very clear way, my partner for her unbelievable support, and the 7sage community.

#Some overall tips

CONFIDENCE: You know this shit!!! If you come into the test KNOWING that you will kill it, you WILL kill it. You've put in the work, and it will pay off when you allow yourself to envision what it looks like to fly through the test like you did when you nailed all those practice tests. If you're having trouble building confidence in yourself, pretend you are your friend-- what would you tell your friend to build up their confidence?

BREAKS: Like I mentioned, TREAT YOUR BRAIN LIKE A MUSCLE. You need space away from this stupid, stupid test. You need rest days. You need rest weeks. It will feel counterintuitive: "How can I get better at in/out games if I'm not actually doing in/out games right now?" You will do them. Just not now. Your brain's gotta rest. Go for a run. Go play some video games. Go see friends. Go SLEEP. You'll be fine.

BALANCE: I studied for and took this test while working full-time and doing an online master's program. I couldn't figure out my schedule for a long time. I constantly felt stressed about the other things that I wasn't doing, and I let that fuck with my head. Plan your schedule, and write down lists, and allow yourself to focus 100% on whatever you're scheduled for right now.

TIME: Especially if you're working full time, you're gonna need time to study for this, factoring in plenty of breaks. JY recommends a year. I'd say that's pretty accurate.

#Actual LSAT advice

Skipping: YOU NEED TO SKIP LR QUESTIONS. I aimed for 10 in 10, 20 in 20, and being done with the section around the 25/27 mark, with 4-6 skipped question. BUT I didn't let myself get stressed out if I didn't meet those guideposts-- they're just guideposts. I skipped any question that I was confused by or found myself struggling after one or two read throughs, and all parallel method/parallel flaw questions. This let me bank a ton of time for those questions towards the end that I knew I would need more time for.

Contain your confusion: For RC. I don't remember which video it is, but JY talks about "containing your confusion". When you read some RC stuff, there will be things that confuse you. Scientific concepts, weird arguments, things you don't get about the Louvre, or flower, or 18th century art, whatever. Box in your confusion. Tell yourself, okay, in this little second paragraph, I don't really get what's going on, but I'm gonna zoom back out. We know that most questions are not detail heavy, and if they are, you can come back to that section to figure out out what the heck is going on. Stay focused on the big picture: what's the main point? Who's making it and what do they believe? Is there another viewpoint there too? What do they think? What section supports that main conclusion?

Foolproof!!!: not much to say here except that games are learnable and foolproofing is the way to learn them.

Yikes wow that was long. Thanks for reading. You're gonna do great on this test!! I believe in you.

😭 I am stressing out. I started studying just 6 weeks ago. Originally scored a 143 on the diagnostic. Now I am scoring an average of 158. Then I got a 171! couldn't believe it. Now I am back to mid 50s and honestly. I feel like crap. I think. I am burning out. I study around 10 hours a day, 5 days a week like a full-time job.

However... I deff am having the biggest issue with timing. Also second guessing myself. it is to stressful and I just needed to vent. I deff need to just take my own advice and take a freaking break.

I am taking the November exam on the 9th. So I don't have a ton of time. I feel like if I don't apply within the next 2 months, I am just not gonna make it. I do plan on taking the January exam as well but I feel like applying after that exam is just so freaking late. I have my letters, personal statement, etc all done. Just need the LSAT score.

Anyone else feeling discouraged or in a similar situation? I feel I should take a few days off despite being so close to test day. Any advice?

thx

Hi all,

Instead of getting a bunch of 1 question type wrong on my PTs, I've been getting 1 of 6-7 question types wrong. For example, I'll get 1 Necessary Assumption, 1 Flaw, 1 Weaken, etc wrong on a PT.

I am really not sure what to drill if I'm just getting this wide variety of question types wrong individually. Does anyone have any tips or has anyone been through this situation that can help plan next steps?

Thanks!

Taking the November LSAT and looking for someone to hop on Zoom and review questions together. If you're interested let me know. Took the October LSAT and got in the mid 160s, recently PTing in the low 170s.

I am taking the november lsat, but also plan on applying to some schools before scores are released. How do I make sure schools receive my new scores? Do I need to send it to them or tell them there is a new score on file or will they automatically be updated.

#help

#lsat

#admissions

Do our references have to have submitted the reference before NOV 1 or can I submit my applicaiton and still have their submission be pending? One of my references has still not completed it but it says viewed on my applicaiton.

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I’m currently scoring in the 140s and looking for a study buddy from 7Sage who is scoring around the same range to do some LR questions together. Ideally, it would be great to find someone who enjoys learning verbally so we can discuss and process thoughts together. If you’re interested, please leave a comment or DM me! I’m in the PST time zone and usually available either in the morning or after 6 pm. Thank you!

Beyond happy to be done 🥳

Took my first diagnostic in October of 2023 - roughly 1 whole year before I took the October exam a couple weeks ago.

Though 146 was my lowest, I've scored PTs in the 150s and a 180 and everything in between. I just wanted to give hope to those of you with low diagnostics that a 170+ is possible with proper study and hard work and to remind those of you still on your LSAT journey that progress is not linear and is rarely ever truly consistent.

Thanks a ton to 7Sage and to JY for all the explanations, the drilling app, and the analytics UI. Couldn't have done it without you guys.

I'm a non-URM with a 4.0 and a 172. PT average about the same with a few (recent) scores between 174 and 177. Is it worth taking again in November? My top choices are Michigan and Northwestern.

my biggest problem is that i rush through questions and this results in me picking the most attractive wrong answers. answer advice on how to stay patient and thoroughly consider every answer choice?

So many times when I am reviewing what I got wrong, I look back at the question and I'm like why the hell did I choose that question. Why does this keep happening.

Also, most times I end up choosing the second best answer and how can I fix this.