I'm proud of myself for getting this right. It makes sense to understand this question as a contrapositive. Basically, if people aren't smart enough to understand music, then this leads back to a no-good show.
I was one of the people questioning whether chain logic was necessary a few lessons ago. I no longer question that lol. Luckily got it right by diagramming and then trying to match the answer choices to what I had.
i got the chain correct, but i also had to map out each and every single one of the answers which took soooo long....... but thinking you can only go from Left to Right, not Right to Left in the chain is very helpful. it felt good figuring it out in the end!
Nuts, I got the chain wrong. Messed up both the actual and the BR. You really gotta have a good foundation of how to translate these things into Lawgic otherwise the whole process gets wasted and thrown out the window. I metaphorically autodefenestrated meself
Here is how I worked through the problem and got it right!
I turned it into lawgic,
inspired performance -> good show -> sophisticated listener -> musical roots
The Contrapositive is:
/musical roots -> /sophisticated listener -> / good show -> /inspired performance
A is correct because look at the contrapositive above, it follows no sophisticated listeners, meaning there will be no inspired performances. This one follows the Lawgic and Contra to a T.
@SehntaSouraya316 Did you also make sure to add the contrapositive? It seems so simple to forget. But that's what helped me.
Anything that you do in your head, if at all I would also recommend to stop or decrease. Because for me, I'm good with translating the stimulus and putting it on paper. But for some reason when I get to the AC’s, I try to stick too much in my head, even while staring at my diagram.
Its usually not until I get to the video that I realize that I've made a silly mistake. It's a bad habit, but I'm consistently trying to nip it in the bud.
@emill1517 My favorite way to think about unless is this:
"A will occur unless B occurs."
In my head, this means that the only way for A not to happen (/A), is for B to happen. So, if A does not occur, then B did.
Translation: /A --> B
In this example, "There will not be a good show unless there are sophisticated listeners in the audience"
The only way for there to be a good show, is for sophisticated listeners to be in the audience. If there was a good show, then sophisticated listeners were there. Therefore, good show --> sophisticated listeners
Honestly the best way for me to get this is to understand the arrow only moves one way. It can never point to the left, it always has to point to the right
This is my second pass at the conditional logic module and I can finally see some progress in my accuracy and PTs... for those of you starting out: PLEASE do not move on until you know this stuff like the back of your hand. I will save you time and effort. Conditional logic is a score killer.
Absolutely baffled how powerful this lesson is. I thought this would be somewhat helpful but dang... I didn't have scrap paper on me and got confused the second I had tried again with scrap it immediately became clear 😅.
coming back here after realizing i really suck at conditional logic all the way from parallel method of reasoning LR questions is rough. I feel like I was demolishing causal reasoning or anything that wasn't conditional up to that point but the moment I ran into something with this kind of logic I would be stumped for 5 minutes. Moral of the story for anyone just starting out in this journey, do not skip ahead, stay focused and you will be far better off in the future not coming back to lick your wounds.
I diagramed correctly but did not diagram the contrapositive. I think that made it difficult for me to see the correct answer. I got this one wrong but I feel like i learned something so I think that's all that matters now.
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I'm proud of myself for getting this right. It makes sense to understand this question as a contrapositive. Basically, if people aren't smart enough to understand music, then this leads back to a no-good show.
No sophisticated listeners -> no good show.
Took me eight minutes, but I got it
@BenjaminWellington should we be worried about how long it took? im only on week 2
@jacky.yyyy_ nah youll get there if you keep practicing
took me a while but I got it
one of the first questions I got correct and under time at the same Time. I am excited about that!
But would it be valid to say that there was a good show because there were inspired musical performance?
Got the chain right and D caught my eye, hate the confusion lol
@TacoyaWilliams me too </3
I was one of the people questioning whether chain logic was necessary a few lessons ago. I no longer question that lol. Luckily got it right by diagramming and then trying to match the answer choices to what I had.
Followed this perfectly, but i forgot the to double negate :/..so I was so confused when none of the answer choices matched my diagram lol
i got the chain correct, but i also had to map out each and every single one of the answers which took soooo long....... but thinking you can only go from Left to Right, not Right to Left in the chain is very helpful. it felt good figuring it out in the end!
Nuts, I got the chain wrong. Messed up both the actual and the BR. You really gotta have a good foundation of how to translate these things into Lawgic otherwise the whole process gets wasted and thrown out the window. I metaphorically autodefenestrated meself
Finally got a conditional stim right using Lawgic!
Here is how I worked through the problem and got it right!
I turned it into lawgic,
inspired performance -> good show -> sophisticated listener -> musical roots
The Contrapositive is:
/musical roots -> /sophisticated listener -> / good show -> /inspired performance
A is correct because look at the contrapositive above, it follows no sophisticated listeners, meaning there will be no inspired performances. This one follows the Lawgic and Contra to a T.
I translated into lawgic and got the perfect chain. But still got the answer wrong.
@SehntaSouraya316 Did you also make sure to add the contrapositive? It seems so simple to forget. But that's what helped me.
Anything that you do in your head, if at all I would also recommend to stop or decrease. Because for me, I'm good with translating the stimulus and putting it on paper. But for some reason when I get to the AC’s, I try to stick too much in my head, even while staring at my diagram.
Its usually not until I get to the video that I realize that I've made a silly mistake. It's a bad habit, but I'm consistently trying to nip it in the bud.
@MD_301Gopats
Hi, Thank you for the tips.
Can anyone help explain unless better? For some reason I am really struggling with the concept.
@emill1517 My favorite way to think about unless is this:
"A will occur unless B occurs."
In my head, this means that the only way for A not to happen (/A), is for B to happen. So, if A does not occur, then B did.
Translation: /A --> B
In this example, "There will not be a good show unless there are sophisticated listeners in the audience"
The only way for there to be a good show, is for sophisticated listeners to be in the audience. If there was a good show, then sophisticated listeners were there. Therefore, good show --> sophisticated listeners
@ckilk Thank you, very helpful!
I diagrammed wrong but somehow got the answer right. I'll have to go back and review necessary vs sufficient since they keep messing me up
this took me ages but i got it right... me before this module would never believe it
Mapping this one out made it so simple for me. Actually feel like I made progress
Honestly the best way for me to get this is to understand the arrow only moves one way. It can never point to the left, it always has to point to the right
i diagrammed right but still messed up on the ac's wtf
This is my second pass at the conditional logic module and I can finally see some progress in my accuracy and PTs... for those of you starting out: PLEASE do not move on until you know this stuff like the back of your hand. I will save you time and effort. Conditional logic is a score killer.
Absolutely baffled how powerful this lesson is. I thought this would be somewhat helpful but dang... I didn't have scrap paper on me and got confused the second I had tried again with scrap it immediately became clear 😅.
coming back here after realizing i really suck at conditional logic all the way from parallel method of reasoning LR questions is rough. I feel like I was demolishing causal reasoning or anything that wasn't conditional up to that point but the moment I ran into something with this kind of logic I would be stumped for 5 minutes. Moral of the story for anyone just starting out in this journey, do not skip ahead, stay focused and you will be far better off in the future not coming back to lick your wounds.
I diagramed correctly but did not diagram the contrapositive. I think that made it difficult for me to see the correct answer. I got this one wrong but I feel like i learned something so I think that's all that matters now.
mom, i got it right