FOR THOSE FEELING DISCOURAGED!!!! I have been studying for a year now (on and off). When I did this for the first time it took me 5 minutes and I got it completely wrong and even after watching the video I was still unsure how to do the conditionals on my own. Fast forward to now while my timing is still at 2:02 minutes instead of the target 1:43, I was able to do it right and get the answer correct!!! I promise it's the small steps, one day at a time. It's a little accomplishment and while I'm not completely there yet, knowing and seeing the improvement is so rewarding. Keep going, we're all in this together!
I have been studying for two years and it still takes me 5 minutes on these. I got it right, but because I took the time to draw it out and didn't pay attention to time. I am still trying to figure out how (and when) to wean yourself off of drawing the conditionals out. I cant even do math in my head. Doing math in my head is like drawing math problems on water.
My instant gut answer was A but I spent about 6 minutes going through every answer to make sure. Got it right still but like... the second guessing is brutal with these
I mapped out the question correctly into lawgic but failed to understand the answer selections for how they would map out on the lawgic mapping. Need more practice with understanding the answer selections.
Honestly the best way for me to get this is to understand the arrow only moves one way. It can never point to the left, it always has to point to the right
coming back here after realizing i really suck at conditional logic all the way from parallel method of reasoning LR questions is rough. I feel like I was demolishing causal reasoning or anything that wasn't conditional up to that point but the moment I ran into something with this kind of logic I would be stumped for 5 minutes. Moral of the story for anyone just starting out in this journey, do not skip ahead, stay focused and you will be far better off in the future not coming back to lick your wounds.
I picked D because that made the most logical sense to me. It's going to be hard to ignore my logic and use the lawgic. Hopefully the longer I do this, the easier it becomes.
If you see an answer (like A) that is immediately right, in that it conforms to your diagram, should you just pick it and move on? As soon as I read A and looked at my diagram, I knew it was right but psyched myself out trying to map out the other answer choices.
@RamseyEaton same thing also happened to me I'm wondering this. My guess is this is a speed test so it's probably a good idea to move on to the next question once you know for sure an answer is right. I am mostly only referring to conditionals though because they are mapped out and must be true. It buys more time for other questions that might take a while
Got this right in 1 minute and 6 seconds (38 seconds below average target time). The 7sage Curriculum is spot on when it argues that "Lawgic" transforms convoluted English content into clear, easily controllable data.
This is my second pass at the conditional logic module and I can finally see some progress in my accuracy and PTs... for those of you starting out: PLEASE do not move on until you know this stuff like the back of your hand. I will save you time and effort. Conditional logic is a score killer.
I diagramed correctly but did not diagram the contrapositive. I think that made it difficult for me to see the correct answer. I got this one wrong but I feel like i learned something so I think that's all that matters now.
For anyone who thinks the foundation lessons are too easy or straightforward, please don't skip them. During my first LSAT, I skipped them because I thought everything was straightforward and got this question wrong. This time around, I'm going through the foundations in depth and got this right (just went four seconds over the time limit)
@KhushyMandania this was also my experience! Made the effort to memorize all the group conditionals indicators this time and understanding/doing much better! :) *high five*
Absolutely baffled how powerful this lesson is. I thought this would be somewhat helpful but dang... I didn't have scrap paper on me and got confused the second I had tried again with scrap it immediately became clear 😅.
180 comments
FOR THOSE FEELING DISCOURAGED!!!! I have been studying for a year now (on and off). When I did this for the first time it took me 5 minutes and I got it completely wrong and even after watching the video I was still unsure how to do the conditionals on my own. Fast forward to now while my timing is still at 2:02 minutes instead of the target 1:43, I was able to do it right and get the answer correct!!! I promise it's the small steps, one day at a time. It's a little accomplishment and while I'm not completely there yet, knowing and seeing the improvement is so rewarding. Keep going, we're all in this together!
I have been studying for two years and it still takes me 5 minutes on these. I got it right, but because I took the time to draw it out and didn't pay attention to time. I am still trying to figure out how (and when) to wean yourself off of drawing the conditionals out. I cant even do math in my head. Doing math in my head is like drawing math problems on water.
Good news: I got it right and fully understand how I arrived at a confident answer
Bad news: it took me 9 minutes to work through lmao
My instant gut answer was A but I spent about 6 minutes going through every answer to make sure. Got it right still but like... the second guessing is brutal with these
I mapped out the question correctly into lawgic but failed to understand the answer selections for how they would map out on the lawgic mapping. Need more practice with understanding the answer selections.
@DouglasNeumeyer me too. Not understanding the answer selection has been my biggest down fall. I also think that I second guess myself a lot.
Professor really does a good job complicating what’s easy
Honestly the best way for me to get this is to understand the arrow only moves one way. It can never point to the left, it always has to point to the right
I got the chain and contrapositive chain correct but I need to get better faster reading and translating answer choices.
coming back here after realizing i really suck at conditional logic all the way from parallel method of reasoning LR questions is rough. I feel like I was demolishing causal reasoning or anything that wasn't conditional up to that point but the moment I ran into something with this kind of logic I would be stumped for 5 minutes. Moral of the story for anyone just starting out in this journey, do not skip ahead, stay focused and you will be far better off in the future not coming back to lick your wounds.
To practice more questions like this one, is there somewhere on 7sage I can practice, or do I need to review the previous lessons?
@EdithM did u ever get to the answer to this?
I picked D because that made the most logical sense to me. It's going to be hard to ignore my logic and use the lawgic. Hopefully the longer I do this, the easier it becomes.
@GSUDREAM I hope you are doing well!
@TeklaCo Not really lol. But thank you so much.
@GSUDREAM same here, we got this man
had the right diagraming and still got fried
If you see an answer (like A) that is immediately right, in that it conforms to your diagram, should you just pick it and move on? As soon as I read A and looked at my diagram, I knew it was right but psyched myself out trying to map out the other answer choices.
@RamseyEaton same thing also happened to me I'm wondering this. My guess is this is a speed test so it's probably a good idea to move on to the next question once you know for sure an answer is right. I am mostly only referring to conditionals though because they are mapped out and must be true. It buys more time for other questions that might take a while
Got this right in 1 minute and 6 seconds (38 seconds below average target time). The 7sage Curriculum is spot on when it argues that "Lawgic" transforms convoluted English content into clear, easily controllable data.
This is my second pass at the conditional logic module and I can finally see some progress in my accuracy and PTs... for those of you starting out: PLEASE do not move on until you know this stuff like the back of your hand. I will save you time and effort. Conditional logic is a score killer.
Writing down the lawgic really helped. Lets go!!!
I diagramed correctly but did not diagram the contrapositive. I think that made it difficult for me to see the correct answer. I got this one wrong but I feel like i learned something so I think that's all that matters now.
For anyone who thinks the foundation lessons are too easy or straightforward, please don't skip them. During my first LSAT, I skipped them because I thought everything was straightforward and got this question wrong. This time around, I'm going through the foundations in depth and got this right (just went four seconds over the time limit)
@KhushyMandania this was also my experience! Made the effort to memorize all the group conditionals indicators this time and understanding/doing much better! :) *high five*
I hope that Lawgic becomes more intuitive as it keeps slowing me down
need to work on speed, but got it right :-)
Took me 17 minutes to solve it but I at least got it right haha
@DakshMalik took me 8 minutes but got it right. i want to cry but also feel good that at least i got i right lol
@YiquiaraM I think the practice tests are gonna help with the speed. I getting the concepts right is more important for now
@YiquiaraM Haha same
I appreciate all the reassurance the instructor gives. I really feel like I can do it lol
I'm so happy these drills were added during the lessons.
A just sounded to good to be true, I got to much in my head.
@KikeHernándezLuvr Literally same...the simplest answer may very well be CORRECT because the question is very clear in what it's asserting
Absolutely baffled how powerful this lesson is. I thought this would be somewhat helpful but dang... I didn't have scrap paper on me and got confused the second I had tried again with scrap it immediately became clear 😅.
mom, i got it right