I found question #3 confusing! When I analyze the stimulus through the lens of whether it provides support, I perceive the studies conducted as support for the first sentence.
question 4 was a bit confusing. I didn't know that the conclusion could look like that. Why woudn't the conclusion be "he knows that doing what is not permitted without first seeking permission is wrong." ?
I said #2 is an argument but how it was rewritten I thought that "individuals without blue eyes are far less likely to have a relative with blue eyes" was the conclusion because I thought it was supported by everything else.
I was tripped up by Question 2 as I thought premises and a conclusion would be in full sentences. Even though the conclusion of "having blue eyes is largely determined by genetics" popped to me as a conclusion, I decided to label it as a non-argument. Fortunately, I corrected myself of that mistake by getting Question 7 correct!
So, the premises do not need to support the conclusion to be considered an argument? If that is the case, then that would just be a bad argument, right? There just needs to be a premise and a conclusion. Maybe adding an example of a bad argument here and having us still distinguish that it is an argument would be helpful to get this point across? Or maybe introducing valid vs sound arguments before this, or distinguishing that we want to determine how to spot a valid argument, which is different than a sound argument. I think the statement at the end of the video may confuse people as an argument is valid if there is at least one conclusion and one premise, regardless of support. right? Wouldn't looking for support imply we are looking to see if an argument is sound or not opposed to valid?
can someone please explain to me why number 6 is not an argument? i know the video says because no premise supports any conclusion, but i felt as if the second sentence refers to libraries and bookstores because they do showcase a wide raange of books on various subjects....
Anyone else having any playback issues with the videos. The video is randomly stopping and wont continue.. Who do I contact about this? Is there any technical support on here?
If I struggle to find the conclusion, I'll read each sentence with "Therefore, blah blah blah," to help locate it. It also helps me figure out if it's an argument or not because adding "Therefore" before each sentence unveils if the claims support each other.
Seems like a good way to establish "support" is to ask of a phrase or sentence: "How do we know that?" and if nothing else in the prompt speaks to that, then we don't have an argument. Am I off-track with that thought?
I got 5/7 here however after reading the answers and reviewing the video...the lightbulb went off and to me that's the whole point of being here! Glad to be here! Learning and working towards a brighter future for myself!
Can viewing statements from a IF THEN point of view help when it comes to identifying a premise and a conclusion? Or is there no correlation between a Argument and If then statements as of right now?
Got all correct except #6!! That one stumped me. Thought conclusion was: All libraries and bookstores are intellectual places. Premise: Most well-stocked.... My viewpoint: 1st statement supports "conclusion". 2nd statement: goes against almost? I don't feel like I'm inserting my own beliefs (truth) into this one to make this assumption. But, not bad for my first time dealing with this!!
In this section, I learning that the argument can not be valid unless there is a conclusion and a premises that supports the conclusion. I also learned paying attention to the conclusion words, they are used to translate from a conclusion and premise. Knowing what is what is important.
On Q6: I'm a bit confused about how adding "thus" turns it into an argument-- Even if the last sentence becomes the conclusion, neither of the first two claims can be premises because they do not support the conclusion, right? If it is an argument it is a bad one, but I'm not seeing how we can even make that jump.
Q6: is it possible for one sentence to support the conclusion and the other just be nonsense? I thought 6 was an argument because the second sentence seems to support the first. Was it "most well-stocked" that made it not a good premise? Sentence 3 obviously lends no support to the conclusion.
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I found question #3 confusing! When I analyze the stimulus through the lens of whether it provides support, I perceive the studies conducted as support for the first sentence.
Q. 4 is confusing.
question 4 was a bit confusing. I didn't know that the conclusion could look like that. Why woudn't the conclusion be "he knows that doing what is not permitted without first seeking permission is wrong." ?
I said #2 is an argument but how it was rewritten I thought that "individuals without blue eyes are far less likely to have a relative with blue eyes" was the conclusion because I thought it was supported by everything else.
my notes
as indicated by says what i say next supports what i previously said
conclusion is not always at the end of the argument.
q3 nothing supports something else it is just a bunch of stated facts so not an argument.
how we know first sent in q4 is a conclusion because it is supported by the next sentence.
so conclusion indicator also cause its supported by 1st 2 sentences.
q6 tricked me i did not actual read that one sentence didnt actually support another i glanced thru that one.
indicator dont always precede a conclusion
q7 first sentence is designed to be suported by the other two, add words like because and why?
I was tripped up by Question 2 as I thought premises and a conclusion would be in full sentences. Even though the conclusion of "having blue eyes is largely determined by genetics" popped to me as a conclusion, I decided to label it as a non-argument. Fortunately, I corrected myself of that mistake by getting Question 7 correct!
I got them all right!
I got them all right yay!
So, the premises do not need to support the conclusion to be considered an argument? If that is the case, then that would just be a bad argument, right? There just needs to be a premise and a conclusion. Maybe adding an example of a bad argument here and having us still distinguish that it is an argument would be helpful to get this point across? Or maybe introducing valid vs sound arguments before this, or distinguishing that we want to determine how to spot a valid argument, which is different than a sound argument. I think the statement at the end of the video may confuse people as an argument is valid if there is at least one conclusion and one premise, regardless of support. right? Wouldn't looking for support imply we are looking to see if an argument is sound or not opposed to valid?
This stumbled me lol. I am still working on it but the practice is nice.
can someone please explain to me why number 6 is not an argument? i know the video says because no premise supports any conclusion, but i felt as if the second sentence refers to libraries and bookstores because they do showcase a wide raange of books on various subjects....
Dang, I got the second one partially wrong. I was too focused on the word "Conversely".
The third one almost got me. I was writing it out and then said pause... none of these are supporting each other.
Did better than I expected and I noticed the patterns in the last few questions ( Spanish 101 question breakdown).
Ok so basically you have to ask the text why? Like for question 3 or 6 why are u saying these things what's your point?
Anyone else having any playback issues with the videos. The video is randomly stopping and wont continue.. Who do I contact about this? Is there any technical support on here?
If I struggle to find the conclusion, I'll read each sentence with "Therefore, blah blah blah," to help locate it. It also helps me figure out if it's an argument or not because adding "Therefore" before each sentence unveils if the claims support each other.
The conclusion is always the most obvious. Once you identify the most obvious claim then ask how it's supported.
Seems like a good way to establish "support" is to ask of a phrase or sentence: "How do we know that?" and if nothing else in the prompt speaks to that, then we don't have an argument. Am I off-track with that thought?
I got 5/7 here however after reading the answers and reviewing the video...the lightbulb went off and to me that's the whole point of being here! Glad to be here! Learning and working towards a brighter future for myself!
Can viewing statements from a IF THEN point of view help when it comes to identifying a premise and a conclusion? Or is there no correlation between a Argument and If then statements as of right now?
I'm having trouble pinning down the distinction between something that is not an argument vs. just a weak argument.
If one claim is purported to support another, but it actually does not, would that be considered an argument? For example:
"I am 80 years old. Therefore, I am ready to buy a car."
Can we say this is an argument (if a weak one) because the author uses a word indicating support?
Got all correct except #6!! That one stumped me. Thought conclusion was: All libraries and bookstores are intellectual places. Premise: Most well-stocked.... My viewpoint: 1st statement supports "conclusion". 2nd statement: goes against almost? I don't feel like I'm inserting my own beliefs (truth) into this one to make this assumption. But, not bad for my first time dealing with this!!
In this section, I learning that the argument can not be valid unless there is a conclusion and a premises that supports the conclusion. I also learned paying attention to the conclusion words, they are used to translate from a conclusion and premise. Knowing what is what is important.
please bring back the highlighter/underlining function!!
On Q6: I'm a bit confused about how adding "thus" turns it into an argument-- Even if the last sentence becomes the conclusion, neither of the first two claims can be premises because they do not support the conclusion, right? If it is an argument it is a bad one, but I'm not seeing how we can even make that jump.
Q6: is it possible for one sentence to support the conclusion and the other just be nonsense? I thought 6 was an argument because the second sentence seems to support the first. Was it "most well-stocked" that made it not a good premise? Sentence 3 obviously lends no support to the conclusion.