Not trying to be the naysayer hear, but wth does this have to do with LSAT? Am I going to stop to conduct this experiment under a timed-constraint? NO!
#feedback- why are there no videos? Like I seriously dont understand why am I reading this? I have ZERO understanding of this reading class, or whatever you call it
Bring back the videos!! they helped to make the information more digestible... almost like a friend was telling me something. They stuck in my brain and when it came to applying it to practice questions I could hear the conversation in my head
Is it possible for Group 1 to experience significant pain-reduction from an effective medication, and for Group 2 (having been administered sugar pills) to also experience significant pain-reduction through the placebo effect?
In this way, the medication that was administered was still effective, yet the placebo effect in Group 2 was equally powerful. In this hypothetical situation, the placebo effect does not necessarily negate the medication's efficacy.
Hey guys, I read the whole chapter and understood up to competing hypothesis but what is the point of knowing all these experiment factors? (ideal experiment, placebo, blinding)
I understand the sample representation because some LR questions deal with samples but why do we need to know ideal experiments, placebo, and blinding? Are they necessary so we can run an ideal experiment in our head on LSAT? Please share your opinions.
It seems like these last lessons are highlighting that we don't just exist in a vacuum, and when we're presented with a supposed cause-and-effect relationship, such as:
No visual explanations for concepts → Confused
We should consider that there might be other factors at play. In this case, confusion could stem from various reasons beyond the lack of visual explanations. For instance, I’m neurodivergent, which could be an alternative hypothesis for many of us who are confused. It's also possible that some 7Sage users might attribute their confusion to the lack of visual explanations simply because they've been influenced by comments from other 7Sage users.
So, is the main takeaway that we should be cautious of given cause-and-effect relationships and look for ways that the world of the text may influence the given cause and effect, and then consider alternative hypotheses?
I'm confused when it comes to this, I was told that the LSAT did not require any outside information. While most students taking the LSAT have likely taken a lab in their life and are familiar with how experiments are conducted, doesn't this count as outside information? On the test for example, in regards to an experiment, am I supposed to assume that every question needs to account for a placebo? It's confusing, because I thought this was about Logical Reasoning, yet i'm being told in this lesson that I have to account for blinding, placebo, and other issues which pertain to science experiments.
#feedback "Blind" refers to when the person on whom the experiment is being performed is unaware of whether they're in the test or control group, whereas "double blind" is when neither the experimenter nor "experimentee" is aware of the group in which the "experimentee" is placed. You might've already known that and not bothered to mention it, haha.
during the test how are you supposed to be aware of such situations
"In other words, could mere knowledge that you're receiving treatment cause you to experience therapeutic benefits? If the answer is "no," then knowledge has no causal power and hence it doesn't matter that we failed to control for it. But, as it turns out, the answer is "yes." Mere knowledge that you're receiving treatment can, in some circumstances, cause you to experience therapeutic effects."
Hello! I wanted to point out a typo in the very first sentence. It should say experiment and not experimental. #feedback
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Not trying to be the naysayer hear, but wth does this have to do with LSAT? Am I going to stop to conduct this experiment under a timed-constraint? NO!
#feedback- why are there no videos? Like I seriously dont understand why am I reading this? I have ZERO understanding of this reading class, or whatever you call it
#feedback
Bring back the videos!! they helped to make the information more digestible... almost like a friend was telling me something. They stuck in my brain and when it came to applying it to practice questions I could hear the conversation in my head
question re: placebo effect
Is it possible for Group 1 to experience significant pain-reduction from an effective medication, and for Group 2 (having been administered sugar pills) to also experience significant pain-reduction through the placebo effect?
In this way, the medication that was administered was still effective, yet the placebo effect in Group 2 was equally powerful. In this hypothetical situation, the placebo effect does not necessarily negate the medication's efficacy.
Hey guys, I read the whole chapter and understood up to competing hypothesis but what is the point of knowing all these experiment factors? (ideal experiment, placebo, blinding)
I understand the sample representation because some LR questions deal with samples but why do we need to know ideal experiments, placebo, and blinding? Are they necessary so we can run an ideal experiment in our head on LSAT? Please share your opinions.
It seems like these last lessons are highlighting that we don't just exist in a vacuum, and when we're presented with a supposed cause-and-effect relationship, such as:
No visual explanations for concepts → Confused
We should consider that there might be other factors at play. In this case, confusion could stem from various reasons beyond the lack of visual explanations. For instance, I’m neurodivergent, which could be an alternative hypothesis for many of us who are confused. It's also possible that some 7Sage users might attribute their confusion to the lack of visual explanations simply because they've been influenced by comments from other 7Sage users.
So, is the main takeaway that we should be cautious of given cause-and-effect relationships and look for ways that the world of the text may influence the given cause and effect, and then consider alternative hypotheses?
I'm confused when it comes to this, I was told that the LSAT did not require any outside information. While most students taking the LSAT have likely taken a lab in their life and are familiar with how experiments are conducted, doesn't this count as outside information? On the test for example, in regards to an experiment, am I supposed to assume that every question needs to account for a placebo? It's confusing, because I thought this was about Logical Reasoning, yet i'm being told in this lesson that I have to account for blinding, placebo, and other issues which pertain to science experiments.
I miss the videos AND the "Let's review" section summarizing everything at the end.
I'm so boredddddddddd. This is good shit, but the lack of videos has taken me to Hell and back.
Fun fact: The placebo effect is not limited to medication. Several successful placebo surgeries have been performed.
Hey found another typo.
Last sentence of the second paragraph at the end.
"That's why you have to make sure the your subjects strictly adhere to the protocols of the experiment."
Editing this comment because I thought I found a typo but realized it was correct upon rereading. Please ignore this comment lol
#feedback "Blind" refers to when the person on whom the experiment is being performed is unaware of whether they're in the test or control group, whereas "double blind" is when neither the experimenter nor "experimentee" is aware of the group in which the "experimentee" is placed. You might've already known that and not bothered to mention it, haha.
during the test how are you supposed to be aware of such situations
"In other words, could mere knowledge that you're receiving treatment cause you to experience therapeutic benefits? If the answer is "no," then knowledge has no causal power and hence it doesn't matter that we failed to control for it. But, as it turns out, the answer is "yes." Mere knowledge that you're receiving treatment can, in some circumstances, cause you to experience therapeutic effects."
what if I am not aware of the placebo effect?
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Hello! I wanted to point out a typo in the very first sentence. It should say experiment and not experimental. #feedback