#feedback It is going to be difficult to recommend this course to other people if there's no videos to corroborate the main points. This blog format would be fine if I wasn't paying an absurd monthly fee.
Agreed, im an audio-visual learner. I retain information and understand it better when someone is speaking to me. It's what drew me to this program. Now I'm bouncing back and forth between lessons, trying to absorb what's on the page and take notes at the same time. Guess I'll need the practice for law school...
#feedback Can you please add videos for these sections? Where did the videos go?? They are so helpful and really help emphasize the points and breakdown of questions.
#help so how is it that Athena likes head scratches is the main conclusion. What indicates this vs. the rest of the sentence? Is it because the sentence wouldn’t make sense without it. How do I come to distinguish this? What determines something to be a main conclusion vs. sub conclusion?
Hi! If I'm correct, the way you can determine a sub-conclusion from a main conclusion is because the sub-conclusion would used further to support the main conclusion. The fact that "Athena is fluffy." is aiding the main conclusion.
If you read it the other way around and say that Athena likes head scratches supports that all fluffy animals like head scratches would sound a bit silly. It doesn't offer support that just because Athena likes head scratches means that all fluffy animals do!
Yes, I always fall back on the trick of seeing which sentences offer support for the others and which sentence is supported by the rest. A main conclusion will not offer support to the other sentences. Rather, the other sentences will work to build support for the MC sentence. Hope this helps.
I'm glad I'm now in the mechanical processes of solving different LR question types! It's easier to see what step I may be doing wrong/having trouble on since 7Sage maps everything out from Question to Answering. I'm not a good test taker so having these instructions forces me to think sequentially rather than all over the place.
Just fell for a stimulus of the 2nd type, where I assumed "thus" meant the final bit was the final conclusion. Never gonna make this mistake again on God.
it can definitely be easy to get fooled by sub-conclusions, but what has helped me is what the foundations discussed: Asking how/why in regards to the statement you are reading. If the other lines answer the how and why AND the current statement does not also answer the question why for another statement, then it is the main conclusion. I find that I can pretty much do that sub-consciously now for the most part but for a stimulus that is a bit challenging, simply asking how or why is extremely helpful.
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when are videos coming back? I find them so helpful #feedback
#feedback It is going to be difficult to recommend this course to other people if there's no videos to corroborate the main points. This blog format would be fine if I wasn't paying an absurd monthly fee.
so are videos just non existent now? im cooked chat #feedback
#feedback This should be a video
@Akastudent agreed!
@Akastudent I second that! I struggle hard with MC, which I never thought would be my biggest challenge.
where are the videos? will they be back
@miss180tobe Hello from the future: Did they end up coming back?
Edit: just checked the next lesson lol
#feedback why did the video lessons stop? It is helpful to hear the commentary on examples
Agreed, im an audio-visual learner. I retain information and understand it better when someone is speaking to me. It's what drew me to this program. Now I'm bouncing back and forth between lessons, trying to absorb what's on the page and take notes at the same time. Guess I'll need the practice for law school...
when will the videos be back?
Where are the videos? I got the course specifically for the videos.
me too. what the..... haha
Same :(
uhhh when are the videos coming back??// Lol
@anthonyesc42442 they just dipped bruh.
you know how they say to read the question before reading the stim. i read the discussion here before reading the actual material
#feedback Can you please add videos for these sections? Where did the videos go?? They are so helpful and really help emphasize the points and breakdown of questions.
highly suggest taking an extra 10 minutes to review the referential module!
When are the videos coming back? #feedback
@mszchloechen640 did the videos ever end up coming back?? i hate having no videos
#help: Is the following accurate?
1. Premise: All cats are fluffy and Athena is a cat.
2. Sub-conclusion: Thus, Athena is fluffy.
3. Premise: All fluffy animals like head scratches.
4. Main Conclusion: Athena likes head scratches.
that's what I got too :)
I believe so, because each P and SC you listed build up the support for the main conclusion sentence.
Really hope there will be videos uploaded soon. I find videos more efficient. The content is great though! #feedback
I need videos.
@DavidDunbar Same dawg, missing the videos
theres no video, i think youre muted
can someone expand on referential phrasing vs other phrasing via answer choices?
I also have this same question #help
Agree, videos are needed! For those who are auditory, try using an AI text-to-speech app. It's been a game-changer on these text-only lessons.
@ElleJ this is great advice!!!
@ElleJ could you share which app you use for 7sage? Thank you.
@JennAntu05 I use Speechify
#help so how is it that Athena likes head scratches is the main conclusion. What indicates this vs. the rest of the sentence? Is it because the sentence wouldn’t make sense without it. How do I come to distinguish this? What determines something to be a main conclusion vs. sub conclusion?
Hi! If I'm correct, the way you can determine a sub-conclusion from a main conclusion is because the sub-conclusion would used further to support the main conclusion. The fact that "Athena is fluffy." is aiding the main conclusion.
If you read it the other way around and say that Athena likes head scratches supports that all fluffy animals like head scratches would sound a bit silly. It doesn't offer support that just because Athena likes head scratches means that all fluffy animals do!
Yes, I always fall back on the trick of seeing which sentences offer support for the others and which sentence is supported by the rest. A main conclusion will not offer support to the other sentences. Rather, the other sentences will work to build support for the MC sentence. Hope this helps.
I'm glad I'm now in the mechanical processes of solving different LR question types! It's easier to see what step I may be doing wrong/having trouble on since 7Sage maps everything out from Question to Answering. I'm not a good test taker so having these instructions forces me to think sequentially rather than all over the place.
Just fell for a stimulus of the 2nd type, where I assumed "thus" meant the final bit was the final conclusion. Never gonna make this mistake again on God.
that second example got me the cat. they all feel like they could be the conclusion : / help?
"Athena likes head scratches. All cats are fluffy and Athena is a cat. Thus, Athena is fluffy. All fluffy animals like head scratches."
The order of sentences in the stimulus is probably meant to cause that confusion.
Let's break down each sentence into Lawgic to help with that.
"Athena likes head scratches."
A statement of fact we have no further information.
"All cats are fluffy and Athena is a cat."
C → F
(a)C
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(a)F
Conditional logic concludes that Athena is fluffy.
"Thus, Athena is fluffy"
This is explicitly stating the conclusion we've already established previously.
"All Fluffy Animals like head scratches."
F → H
(a)F
---
(a)H
Conditional Logic concludes that Athena (who is fluffy) will like head scratches.
This is ALSO explicitly stated in the first sentence.
So the chained lawgic is: (a)C → (a)F → (a)H
In other words: Sub Premise → Sub Conclusion/Major Premise → Major Conclusion
So the main conclusion is that Athena likes head scratches.
Hope this helped clear things up!
I could figure it out but did I miss the lesson where it explains what a question stem and stimulus, etc. is??
Nevermind, next lesson addresses this.
I was thinking the same thing haha
it can definitely be easy to get fooled by sub-conclusions, but what has helped me is what the foundations discussed: Asking how/why in regards to the statement you are reading. If the other lines answer the how and why AND the current statement does not also answer the question why for another statement, then it is the main conclusion. I find that I can pretty much do that sub-consciously now for the most part but for a stimulus that is a bit challenging, simply asking how or why is extremely helpful.