Out of curiosity does anyone use the comparative RC method for PAI disagree/agree? I would think you would have to be a bit careful with the more implicit PAI questions but it seems to be working well for me.
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Is A wrong because Skylar doesn't really talk about mental maturity? Skylar just talks about mental activity which is different from mental maturity, right?
@mosheelish94 Id assume it's the right way to look at it. Along with that looking at the other things they were debating about had no correlation so you'd be assuming the other was disagreeing on anything but the foundation of "teach chess or don't teach chess"
I totally read the word "objection" as the word "objective" instead and was so confused for the entire question and answer set... highly recommend not doing that lol.
I feel like the title of the question gave the answer away for me. The minute I read "Teaching Chess" and the question stem, I felt like I knew it was about whether or not we should teach chess
@MnM I try to work of my time during drills and PTs. For the questions between lecture videos I spend as much them as needed to get the answer right and properly understand the concept
@MnM Do not worry about timing yet. Once you can complete sections with around -3, and you have all the concepts down, focus on sharpening your intuition, and trusting your gut, while employing everything you learned at a faster pace. It will come naturally as you train with more condensed time frames.
@TylerMadani021 Agree. I don't think the target time should be the focus for now but instead understanding and getting the correct answer. If you are below target time, great! But it means nothing if you get the question wrong and didn't understand it fully
advise: the key was when Sklar says "My objection to teaching chess to children..." directly gives us the answer that their disagreement is not about the reasoning behind their arguments per say, but wether we should be teaching chess to children at all.
Alright look the first go around it took some time (like 19 sec over) but that's because ya boi was analyzing all the answers. On the exam we don't doubt ourselves frfr
@KimberlyLuna Ive been reading this for lost of students in this course. IMHO i think MSS questions are hard/weird because they lack context and kind of feel like an alien is talking to you or like an NPC just started talking to you. PAI questions feel easier because they automatically provide context that you can frame your understanding around. PAI questions just dont feel as jarring and, for me at least, are less distracting and have less loose ends so your mind just thinks of less things that distract you from picking an answer.
I got this question right, so I understand it is the best answer out of the bunch, but I'm confused on how Sklar saying she has an objection to teaching chess in school means that she explicitly stated it should not be taught. I can have an objection to something but that doesn't necessarily mean I think it should be outlawed, correct?
I have an objection to math - I think it's boring, but I still think it should be taught.
Sure, but if you substantiated that by saying you additionally thought that not only does math have no societal value, but it also diverts attention away from something with societal value, than it could be reasonably inferred that you think math shouldn't be taught.
Futhermore, the passage says 'object to teaching chess', do you object to teaching math? Objection to the idea of something is different than an objection to teaching that thing.
I had circled D first and talked my way out of it because it didn't match in my mind the "ideal" answer choice since it needed an assumption on Talbert's part despite the contradiction for Sklar.
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You know that feeling when the answer is so simple it feels wrong? That's how I felt with this lol
Out of curiosity does anyone use the comparative RC method for PAI disagree/agree? I would think you would have to be a bit careful with the more implicit PAI questions but it seems to be working well for me.
Instead of saying "I got it right", anyone who doesn't understand this lesson please feel free to PM me and I'll over explain. This is one of the lessons I feel im fully understanding and can break down a question if you want further explanation!
Is A wrong because Skylar doesn't really talk about mental maturity? Skylar just talks about mental activity which is different from mental maturity, right?
@KhushyMandania Correct! We're always looking for answer options that address something both interlocutors mentioned, so you're right on the money!
Struggling so much with timing. Easily a minute over, and I knew the correct answer immediately. This one felt too good to be true.
yayay got it right!
it literally says 'my objection to teaching chess'. That feels like sklar is explicitly stating what the disagreement is about.
Is that right or wrong to take that as explicitly pointing to what the disagreement is about??
@mosheelish94 Id assume it's the right way to look at it. Along with that looking at the other things they were debating about had no correlation so you'd be assuming the other was disagreeing on anything but the foundation of "teach chess or don't teach chess"
I totally read the word "objection" as the word "objective" instead and was so confused for the entire question and answer set... highly recommend not doing that lol.
@LydiaVanCleave Sammeeee!
LETS GO
Glad I didn't second guess my answer
I feel like the title of the question gave the answer away for me. The minute I read "Teaching Chess" and the question stem, I felt like I knew it was about whether or not we should teach chess
I knew the answer choice was D but i kept talking myself out of it!!!
I'm constantly over the target time. Please share some tips for improvement?
@MnM Trust the instinct. You can easily spend another 15-20 seconds going over answers again and end up on the same one. Rip it and stick it.
@MnM I try to work of my time during drills and PTs. For the questions between lecture videos I spend as much them as needed to get the answer right and properly understand the concept
@MnM Do not worry about timing yet. Once you can complete sections with around -3, and you have all the concepts down, focus on sharpening your intuition, and trusting your gut, while employing everything you learned at a faster pace. It will come naturally as you train with more condensed time frames.
@TylerMadani021 Agree. I don't think the target time should be the focus for now but instead understanding and getting the correct answer. If you are below target time, great! But it means nothing if you get the question wrong and didn't understand it fully
I don't think the Fact v. Belief. v Knowledge link is working? Wondering if the info can be found elsewhere (if so, please signpost!)
@e.wimoine Seems like it hasn't been working for a while
i confused mental maturity with mental activity thinking that they had just reworded it in the answer choices
advise: the key was when Sklar says "My objection to teaching chess to children..." directly gives us the answer that their disagreement is not about the reasoning behind their arguments per say, but wether we should be teaching chess to children at all.
Alright look the first go around it took some time (like 19 sec over) but that's because ya boi was analyzing all the answers. On the exam we don't doubt ourselves frfr
I been getting PAI questions correct but not MSS questions lol
@KimberlyLuna Ive been reading this for lost of students in this course. IMHO i think MSS questions are hard/weird because they lack context and kind of feel like an alien is talking to you or like an NPC just started talking to you. PAI questions feel easier because they automatically provide context that you can frame your understanding around. PAI questions just dont feel as jarring and, for me at least, are less distracting and have less loose ends so your mind just thinks of less things that distract you from picking an answer.
I'm gathering that perhaps the most difficult part of the LSAT is knowing when to make inferences vs. knowing when to avoid traps set by inferences.
@JamieAAbrams no literally
I got this question right, so I understand it is the best answer out of the bunch, but I'm confused on how Sklar saying she has an objection to teaching chess in school means that she explicitly stated it should not be taught. I can have an objection to something but that doesn't necessarily mean I think it should be outlawed, correct?
I have an objection to math - I think it's boring, but I still think it should be taught.
Sure, but if you substantiated that by saying you additionally thought that not only does math have no societal value, but it also diverts attention away from something with societal value, than it could be reasonably inferred that you think math shouldn't be taught.
Futhermore, the passage says 'object to teaching chess', do you object to teaching math? Objection to the idea of something is different than an objection to teaching that thing.
I was on the fence with C and D and I should have just gone with my gut.
I had circled D first and talked my way out of it because it didn't match in my mind the "ideal" answer choice since it needed an assumption on Talbert's part despite the contradiction for Sklar.
Bias!
not sure if it's my computer, but the question is glitching. I literally can't read it.
I have had this happen, I changed the line size to get it to stop
I got A. But now I understand why my answer was wrong...
Are societal and social value the same thing? They were used interchangably in the explanation