Working through this module I've really enjoyed the lesson note feature, however, I would appreciate a highlighter function. I commonly use bold, italics, and underlining to mark up my notes, but it often doesn't feel like its enough. Especially when drawing comparisons, the ability to color code like terms has felt noticeably missing.
Please give the option for us to export/save the Miro board as an image/pdf. As it is right now, I can't do that. Unless I'm missing something, the only option is to take multiple disjointed screenshots of it, or take one big blurry screenshot.
From their website "Note that export is available only if the board owner/co-owner enables the option for board collaborators in the board content settings." You guys could also have a downloadable pdf of it here on the lesson.
Thank you for your feedback! Currently, we don’t have the option to print this out, but we're continuously exploring ways to enhance the user experience, so I have shared this with our product team.
In the meantime, you could try to print it out using your computer or laptop. Here are the steps to this:
1. Tap the “See full diagram” hyperlink to view the diagram on another tab
2. Adjust the diagram to fit the paper (move it to left or right)
3. Press Ctrl + P (if you are using Windows) or Cmd + P (if you are using a Mac computer)
4. On the pop-up screen, select only the pages you want to save
5. Select “Save”
Let me know if you have any further questions. I’m happy to help!
Hi Mary, if each section of the board is put in to a frame in Miro, the board owners can export those files as PDF or JPG files. Maybe those could be added to the page for download
Hey fellow LSAT Takers and aspiring Lawyers, I started doing this a little while ago with my laptops split screen feature. It's nothing too advanced or anything like that just the regular Notepad Software on the computer. It really puts everything into perspective so to speak and can be easily copy and pasted as a template. Upgraded Version Below. Three methods to identify premises and conclusions
- Just get to the point (Conclusion) =
- Reason For Believing This Claim. (Why?) (Gives Support or Premise) =
⦁ Indicators =
⦁ Concession =
Definition: A concession is an acknowledgment by the author that the opposing viewpoint has some valid points or merit.
Definition: The author's point, or main point, is the central claim, opinion, or conclusion that the author is trying to prove or advocate for throughout the passage or stimulus.
Look, whether you are at the beginning of the LSAT studies or at the very very end, understanding arguments is something that we can always study to improve LSAT success.
Think of the analogy of a basketball player: The best players in the world master the fundamentals through constantly practicing them even when they are already the best! The key is to not just be good at the fundamentals but to be a master of them. That is why studying arguments is good at any stage of the LSAT journey, and an argument can be certainly be made that as you get farther in your LSAT journey, that is the most crucial time to study arguments because what else are you going to study?
@MatthewNislein0902 100%. My understanding of concessions are that, by pointing out a flaw (kind of like you might do in an argumentative paper you write) you make it seem that that flaw isn't enough to outweigh the evidence you provided. If Eminem's opponent would've then said the exact same stuff about him right after Eminem just did, it would largely get a weaker response to it than had he said it first. First dibs, if you will. Whoever says the thing first gets the credit, and if the person arguing for a different position says the weakness before the other side can, that side damn well better have more evidence or they're going to look a lot weaker than the defense
This lesson was amazing and simple to understand. Now, can we get this argument summary in a pdf so that we can put it on a poster. Or could 7Sage just sell the posters? I would gladly buy to hang up. Come on 7Sage, let's get this poster idea going. :)
I don't see anything in here about the complex arguments and how a claim can be both a sub-conclusion/major premise. Might be something to add in a reworked summary video.
It should say "arguments-summary" in the bottom left of the diagram in the video summary, or to the top left of the comment section. If you click it, it'll take you to Miro where you should be able to export it as a PDF if you sign up. I haven't signed up and done that but when I try to export it, that is what it tells me to do.
Hi just following up on this question. I want to create a master review sheet but I do not know where to really start. If you could share yours that would very helpful. My email is pendharkar31@gmail.com
@pendharkar31 Hello, if anyone create/receive it, I would like to get it too. This is a very useful diagram and want to print it. Here's my email: diegoantoniocuarto@gmail.com
I'm confused. The video says it is a review of everything that was covered in the arguments module, but I don't know what argument module he is talking about.
@McKayB87 I was confused also but then realized the study plan track is greatly reduced if you give a test date that 7sage considers too soon from the day you started. They basically gut out all the details and give you the summaries for each section. I went back and forced it to show all coursework regardless of the test date.
@McKayB87 What are u gonna do? This is my first time studying and I want to try and take it in september but my first test / diagnostic was a 144 and I feel like I need more time I'm freaking out lol.
@IsabelleStockstill I was also going to take it September but decided it push it to October 8th to give myself a bit more time and we’ll still receive the score in time for early applications!
@SelissaGonzales@IsabelleStockstill It's also my first time studying too. The short 5 question diagnostic to sign up I got a 141 which is not too good I feel like. I'm also freaking out cause I want to apply for fall 2027. I feel like I have to wait until November to test but I'm not sure if thats too late ?
Im confused by the assumption being able to be true or false. In the questions if a premises is stated, is that not subjective as to how true or not true it may be? Or are we supposed to seek out language that would dictate its truthfulness and ultimate support for the argument? I understand the structure, just uncertain how to utilize it.
@EricPreneta I've read through this question a couple times and I may not be right in my response but I'm gonna give it a go. In the context of assumptions, they innately either have to be true or false, but it is up to us to judge how likely either of those cases are (essentially how reasonable the assumption is). To your point about premises, they are "subjective" in the sense that their truth relies upon the reasonability of the assumptions made to present the premise of the argument. I'm not sure if there is specific language that would dictate truthfulness, but I can give the example of something I was told about multiple choice questions as a young sciences student. Generally statements that give absolutes like "All, Any, None, etc." on the multiple choice are more likely to be false because of the magnitude of the claim that they are making. In that sense, you could look for language like that to say: "the claim that ALL... is less likely to be reasonable because of the magnitude of it". Hope this helps in some way, and if I'm way off the mark I hope somebody can correct me. Best, Ryan
@EricPreneta Good question, that is why he made a Spectrum of Support wich explains the how much assumption is reasonable eneough for us to conclude the strength of an argument. Sure, some of the assumptions might not be clear if they are true or false (such as the tiger example). That is why its in the middle (Not the best nor the worst assumption). For something to be certaintly true, it has to be absolute. Such as, we only have one sun. There is no doubt about. Everyone would agree with you. Therefore, it is 100% true.
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#feedback
Working through this module I've really enjoyed the lesson note feature, however, I would appreciate a highlighter function. I commonly use bold, italics, and underlining to mark up my notes, but it often doesn't feel like its enough. Especially when drawing comparisons, the ability to color code like terms has felt noticeably missing.
quiz i made to help reenforce the material: What is the aim of an argument as described in the diagram?
How is a premise defined in this framework?
How does a conclusion differ from a premise?
What does it mean when one claim supports another claim?
What determines the strength of an argument in relation to assumptions?
What happens to an argument when one of its assumptions is false?
What is a forgotten premise or missing link in an argument?
Which question helps identify a conclusion using the first method shown?
Which question helps identify a premise using the second method shown?
Name three indicators that usually introduce a conclusion.
Name three indicators that usually introduce a premise.
Which indicators can introduce a premise but also contain a conclusion?
How does the word but function in context according to the diagram?
What purpose does a concession serve?
Give 3 indicator of a concession.
@SeedyN Goat
@SeedyN This is G.O.A.T material right here.
@SeedyN You're a genius and whatever law firm, district attorney's office, or legal department hires you in 3 years will be better off for it.
@SeedyN This is super helpful! Thank you!
Yup i am going to bed, I shall resume tomorrow.
#feedback
Please give the option for us to export/save the Miro board as an image/pdf. As it is right now, I can't do that. Unless I'm missing something, the only option is to take multiple disjointed screenshots of it, or take one big blurry screenshot.
From their website "Note that export is available only if the board owner/co-owner enables the option for board collaborators in the board content settings." You guys could also have a downloadable pdf of it here on the lesson.
#help
I agree. This would be alot better if we would be able to export this into a PDF and save. Please advise on how we can do this. Thank you.
Hi there,
Thank you for your feedback! Currently, we don’t have the option to print this out, but we're continuously exploring ways to enhance the user experience, so I have shared this with our product team.
In the meantime, you could try to print it out using your computer or laptop. Here are the steps to this:
1. Tap the “See full diagram” hyperlink to view the diagram on another tab
2. Adjust the diagram to fit the paper (move it to left or right)
3. Press Ctrl + P (if you are using Windows) or Cmd + P (if you are using a Mac computer)
4. On the pop-up screen, select only the pages you want to save
5. Select “Save”
Let me know if you have any further questions. I’m happy to help!
Hi Mary, if each section of the board is put in to a frame in Miro, the board owners can export those files as PDF or JPG files. Maybe those could be added to the page for download
On PC: ctrl+prtsc to take screenshot with entirety of diagram in frame
open paint, paste.
crop, save as jpeg.
my picture of the resulting diagram is perfectly clear.
Can you zoom in though? When I zoom in the result is too grainy.
if 7sage made the file below a poster i could hang in my room i'd 100% buy it.
This is perfect. Dissecting the LSAT like this makes it seem easy! (But I know the LSAT IS HARD-first lesson)
- Just get to the point (Conclusion) =
- Reason For Believing This Claim. (Why?) (Gives Support or Premise) =
⦁ Indicators =
⦁ Concession =
Definition: A concession is an acknowledgment by the author that the opposing viewpoint has some valid points or merit.
Definition: The author's point, or main point, is the central claim, opinion, or conclusion that the author is trying to prove or advocate for throughout the passage or stimulus.
Look, whether you are at the beginning of the LSAT studies or at the very very end, understanding arguments is something that we can always study to improve LSAT success.
Think of the analogy of a basketball player: The best players in the world master the fundamentals through constantly practicing them even when they are already the best! The key is to not just be good at the fundamentals but to be a master of them. That is why studying arguments is good at any stage of the LSAT journey, and an argument can be certainly be made that as you get farther in your LSAT journey, that is the most crucial time to study arguments because what else are you going to study?
For concessions, would a good example be Eminem in the movie 8 Mile making fun of himself first so his opponent couldn't?
@MatthewNislein0902 100%. My understanding of concessions are that, by pointing out a flaw (kind of like you might do in an argumentative paper you write) you make it seem that that flaw isn't enough to outweigh the evidence you provided. If Eminem's opponent would've then said the exact same stuff about him right after Eminem just did, it would largely get a weaker response to it than had he said it first. First dibs, if you will. Whoever says the thing first gets the credit, and if the person arguing for a different position says the weakness before the other side can, that side damn well better have more evidence or they're going to look a lot weaker than the defense
This makes my head spin :-/
@AxelEbermann If you want to make a quick poster you could screenshot it and get it printed out as a poster at Walgreens or CVS for prob $20!!!
#feedback
Could we get a pdf version of the Miro board so that we could print it?
Thank you :)
this is giving me Khan Academy vibes with the diagrams and I appreciate the visuals with the audio, thank you
This lesson was amazing and simple to understand. Now, can we get this argument summary in a pdf so that we can put it on a poster. Or could 7Sage just sell the posters? I would gladly buy to hang up. Come on 7Sage, let's get this poster idea going. :)
@SRay If you want to make a quick poster you could screenshot it and get it printed out as a poster at Walgreens or CVS for prob $20!!!
Thank you 7Sage
I don't see anything in here about the complex arguments and how a claim can be both a sub-conclusion/major premise. Might be something to add in a reworked summary video.
This is good. I like this.
This is such a bad note format
This dude spoke too fast on this sumary.
@GGG Agreed. But thankfully there's the MIRO board. I'd be livid if he didn't post it there.
Does anyone know how to save/print a copy of the chart? I'm trying to attach it to my master review sheet!
It should say "arguments-summary" in the bottom left of the diagram in the video summary, or to the top left of the comment section. If you click it, it'll take you to Miro where you should be able to export it as a PDF if you sign up. I haven't signed up and done that but when I try to export it, that is what it tells me to do.
Hi Sofia! Just wanted to ask to see if you would be willing to share your master review sheet?
Hi just following up on this question. I want to create a master review sheet but I do not know where to really start. If you could share yours that would very helpful. My email is pendharkar31@gmail.com
@pendharkar31 Hello, if anyone create/receive it, I would like to get it too. This is a very useful diagram and want to print it. Here's my email: diegoantoniocuarto@gmail.com
@kennylang123 Unfortunately, this does not work as once you create an account Miro requires you to be a creator or editor of the document to export.
This is incredibly helpful in breaking down the LSAT formula. I've been looking for someone to explain things like this everywhere. Thank you so much!
nice
If using Mac you can open the diagram and go: Shift + Command + 3 to screenshot the entire thing and print it out.
@fjnathaniel thank you so much!
This lesson and diagram was incredibly helpful
I'm confused. The video says it is a review of everything that was covered in the arguments module, but I don't know what argument module he is talking about.
@McKayB87 I think its a video from a different module that our study plan ai just put at the end
@McKayB87 I’m confused about this also
@McKayB87 I was confused also but then realized the study plan track is greatly reduced if you give a test date that 7sage considers too soon from the day you started. They basically gut out all the details and give you the summaries for each section. I went back and forced it to show all coursework regardless of the test date.
@Jochie ah nice! And yes, I have been picking up on that as well.
@McKayB87 What are u gonna do? This is my first time studying and I want to try and take it in september but my first test / diagnostic was a 144 and I feel like I need more time I'm freaking out lol.
@IsabelleStockstill I was also going to take it September but decided it push it to October 8th to give myself a bit more time and we’ll still receive the score in time for early applications!
@SelissaGonzales @IsabelleStockstill It's also my first time studying too. The short 5 question diagnostic to sign up I got a 141 which is not too good I feel like. I'm also freaking out cause I want to apply for fall 2027. I feel like I have to wait until November to test but I'm not sure if thats too late ?
Im confused by the assumption being able to be true or false. In the questions if a premises is stated, is that not subjective as to how true or not true it may be? Or are we supposed to seek out language that would dictate its truthfulness and ultimate support for the argument? I understand the structure, just uncertain how to utilize it.
@EricPreneta I've read through this question a couple times and I may not be right in my response but I'm gonna give it a go. In the context of assumptions, they innately either have to be true or false, but it is up to us to judge how likely either of those cases are (essentially how reasonable the assumption is). To your point about premises, they are "subjective" in the sense that their truth relies upon the reasonability of the assumptions made to present the premise of the argument. I'm not sure if there is specific language that would dictate truthfulness, but I can give the example of something I was told about multiple choice questions as a young sciences student. Generally statements that give absolutes like "All, Any, None, etc." on the multiple choice are more likely to be false because of the magnitude of the claim that they are making. In that sense, you could look for language like that to say: "the claim that ALL... is less likely to be reasonable because of the magnitude of it". Hope this helps in some way, and if I'm way off the mark I hope somebody can correct me. Best, Ryan
@EricPreneta Good question, that is why he made a Spectrum of Support wich explains the how much assumption is reasonable eneough for us to conclude the strength of an argument. Sure, some of the assumptions might not be clear if they are true or false (such as the tiger example). That is why its in the middle (Not the best nor the worst assumption). For something to be certaintly true, it has to be absolute. Such as, we only have one sun. There is no doubt about. Everyone would agree with you. Therefore, it is 100% true.