A, C, and E all had extreme language like 'each', 'only', and 'every' which is too strong for NA. Eliminating those, I was down to B and D and chose B because what importance does D have for the conclusion? Ok so if those two elements aren't the same, does that destroy the argument? Not at all, but negating B does, so it must be correct.
@jmont9407 I know this was probably a rhetorical question, but I think I might be able to help out! Assumption questions are super difficult because our minds automatically fill in the "gaps" in the author's reasoning. We (or at least I) often do not realize that the author is even making an assumption because we instantly supply the missing information so that the author's claims make sense. So what really sucks is that assumption questions (and I guess every LSAT question in general lol) require a systematic "break down" of every argument that sometimes feels really unnecessary because it goes totally against how we are used to reading an argument.
What has helped me recently is reminding myself that EVERY Lsat stimulus/argument makes an assumption. Now we just need to identify what that assumption is. Your prediction doesn't need to be perfect (and its probably better that its not), it just needs to make an attempt at stopping yourself from automatically supllying the missing logic
Say we are given the following argument (I've been watching/reading too much Twilight):
Premise: Edward smells Bella's scent from across the biology classroom and realizes it is entirely irresistible to him.
Conclusion: Therefore, Edward will refuse to sit next to Bella.
As a twilight fan (please don't judge me), this makes sense. I'm assuming Edward cares about Bella, I'm assuming that he cares about not traumatizing his classmates (by choosing not to suck her blood right there), and that he doesn't have any other way of avoiding the scent of her blood. I even assume that the fact that he is unable to resist it would would cause him to suck her blood in the first place. But if I negated these, my conclusion might suck. If Edward didn't give a shit about Bella, there would be no reason for him to refuse to sit next to her.
Its really a matter of forcing yourself to really break everything down, which can be mentally draining at times. But you got this!!!! I hope this makes sense/was helpful!
I find it way easier to conceive these questions as using POE to eliminate every not necessary answer choice. It just seems easier to see what isn't necessary than what is, especially when you have to consider that the NA may be a SA too.
#feedback It would be nice to have a link to any past lessons or questions mentioned in this lesson so we can go back and review them after they are discussed here as being important background info for understanding the current concept.
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#help JY keeps mentioning the importance of identifying the type of reasoning in the stimulus. Are there any specific lessons that go over these types/how to identify them?
In the Module "Pseudo Sufficient Assumption or Rule-Application Questions." First lesson here: https://7sage.com/lesson/summary-and-transition-to-psa-questions/
to me this question type feels so intuitive but I can't make the reasoning as to why I think an AC is correct conscious enough to describe consistently. Any tips?
Idk if this will help, but I ignored a and c because they felt too strong, and if felt like you could not use the information provided in the stimulus to actually prove that.
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I GOT IT RIGHT. Small wins.
This definitely didnt feel like a 2/5
Getting these NA questions right is my reward for suffering through the SA module
@iriswu84153 HAHAHAHHAHA
@iriswu84153 so real
@iriswu84153 same here :)
@iriswu84153 me too lollllll
I hated NA questions 4 years ago and I still hate them today 🥲
oh wow so this is gonna be one of those sections huh..
I got this right, but I always feel like the explanations in the video are overly complicated. They actually confuse me even more.
@miriamp same
Trying to convince myself this is easy and common knowledge
SA was easy but NA is difficult. I get the answers right but I don't know WHY I'm getting them right. I can't explain it
@madameatt13ke same it just feels like intuition rn but i know when hard ones come i can't rely on intuition ugh
A, C, and E all had extreme language like 'each', 'only', and 'every' which is too strong for NA. Eliminating those, I was down to B and D and chose B because what importance does D have for the conclusion? Ok so if those two elements aren't the same, does that destroy the argument? Not at all, but negating B does, so it must be correct.
yep, NA answers usually do not contain strong language
omg these lessons make me overthink these so much. these should kind of be common sense and now im getting mad.
inner peace
why are assumptions questions just so hard for me like WHYYYY
@jmont9407 I know this was probably a rhetorical question, but I think I might be able to help out! Assumption questions are super difficult because our minds automatically fill in the "gaps" in the author's reasoning. We (or at least I) often do not realize that the author is even making an assumption because we instantly supply the missing information so that the author's claims make sense. So what really sucks is that assumption questions (and I guess every LSAT question in general lol) require a systematic "break down" of every argument that sometimes feels really unnecessary because it goes totally against how we are used to reading an argument.
What has helped me recently is reminding myself that EVERY Lsat stimulus/argument makes an assumption. Now we just need to identify what that assumption is. Your prediction doesn't need to be perfect (and its probably better that its not), it just needs to make an attempt at stopping yourself from automatically supllying the missing logic
Say we are given the following argument (I've been watching/reading too much Twilight):
As a twilight fan (please don't judge me), this makes sense. I'm assuming Edward cares about Bella, I'm assuming that he cares about not traumatizing his classmates (by choosing not to suck her blood right there), and that he doesn't have any other way of avoiding the scent of her blood. I even assume that the fact that he is unable to resist it would would cause him to suck her blood in the first place. But if I negated these, my conclusion might suck. If Edward didn't give a shit about Bella, there would be no reason for him to refuse to sit next to her.
Its really a matter of forcing yourself to really break everything down, which can be mentally draining at times. But you got this!!!! I hope this makes sense/was helpful!
The over explaining is confusing to me in these videos
SA was easy for me NA is so hard!!!
Had B first and under time but changed it to D and went over time because all my confidence is shot from the last couple of lessons....
it's so over for me....
I am getting them right, but it is hard for me to tell the sufficient vs the necessary assumption right now. I am hoping I get sharper with practice.
I find it way easier to conceive these questions as using POE to eliminate every not necessary answer choice. It just seems easier to see what isn't necessary than what is, especially when you have to consider that the NA may be a SA too.
seemed easier than the first one
#feedback It would be nice to have a link to any past lessons or questions mentioned in this lesson so we can go back and review them after they are discussed here as being important background info for understanding the current concept.
Thanks so much for the feedback! I have passed this feedback on to our product team. If you have any other feedback or suggestions, please don't hesitate to let us know. We're all ears!
#help where can I find this "rule application" lesson?
#help JY keeps mentioning the importance of identifying the type of reasoning in the stimulus. Are there any specific lessons that go over these types/how to identify them?
I have this same question. #help
In the Module "Pseudo Sufficient Assumption or Rule-Application Questions." First lesson here: https://7sage.com/lesson/summary-and-transition-to-psa-questions/
got it right, but this..... and my period cramps. A combo from hell.
Why do my second choice answers always be right, I keep falling for trap answers
@Super_Cookie dis
LOCKED IN!!!!!
to me this question type feels so intuitive but I can't make the reasoning as to why I think an AC is correct conscious enough to describe consistently. Any tips?
@LowOriginalConnection I feel the same way. I cannot map out my reasoning, but rather I rely on intuition.
I prefer SA over this because wt--
Idk if this will help, but I ignored a and c because they felt too strong, and if felt like you could not use the information provided in the stimulus to actually prove that.