#feedback It would be helpful to have a quick lesson on phrases that are often seen on LSAT questions that are weird and abstract because we don't use them in regular speech. For example, "takes for granted" colloquially means something totally different than it does on the LSAT, and there are lots of other phrases like that. Those phrases often trip me up and cost me time. I'd love to have a list of some of those weird common phrases and what they mean in the context of the LSAT, kind of like the "over and under inclusive" lists of premise and conclusion indicators, so I can print it out and refer to it often.
This is such a great idea! Furthermore, when I come across words like that, I often think about people taking the LSAT who are not native English speakers. I can imagine that it is even more difficult!
Necessary assumptions was challenging, so it's nice to see that it was just one particular unit I was struggling with, and that I was capable of doing this. A nice little confidence booster.
4/5, I will take it. Doubt there are a lot of these on the LSAT, so as long as you have a general idea of what is going on I cannot imagine it will be much harder.
#feedback I always press the check mark when I mean to press the next arrow, since the other "You Try It" questions only have one question. I think it would be helpful to make a pop-up confirm we are ending the set (especially if we have not answered each question), or make the check mark unavailable until we have answered each question, or make the next arrow work as the submission button once we are at the last question. This way I will not be answering one or two questions, just to hit the submit button (out of a force of habit) and lose the progress for the whole set! Not a big issue, but it might be a QoL improvement. :)
#feedback Also, after all that, I was in the process of blind review and I accidentally clicked on the discussion tab instead of the highlighter. When I used the back button, it erased all of my progress and prompted me to create a new drill. This is more my fault than anything, but another QoL could be to save progress real-time, if possible!
I've done this way too many times. It's good that you can complete it in blind review so it's not the worst thing ever, but it's so frustrating bc I want to know my stats! :')
Damn, 2/5 first try, then 5/5 BR. I think I struggle to correctly identify the conclusion even when I think to myself "what is the main point" etc. Anyone have any tips on how to get better with these questions?
@hjr210400 Hi! I got every question in this section right and got 5/5 on the Drill. I also initially struggled with MP questions A LOT (it was really bad and very discouraging) and I did a couple of things that really helped me improve and subsequently helped me do well in this section:
1) Do more Main Point question drills. After your drill, use the "show analysis" feature for each question to identify the context, premises, and the conclusion. I also just got into the habit of using the "show analysis" feature when going through every section purely to drill the distinction between main point and non-main point into my head.
2) When I am stuck trying to decide which out of two statements could be the conclusion, I ask myself why should I believe this statement? The premises should provide evidence for the conclusion. So if one of the two statements I am stuck between is trying to support another statement I immediately know it is not the main conclusion.
3) Obviously there are certain indicators for conclusions like "but, then, thus, etc." But I've also come to realize (and this is not a hard and fast rule) that a lot of main points are framed as opinions, predictions, recommendations, or hypotheses.
I really hope this helps! It took me a very long time, constant drilling and practice to get the hang of it. I'm sure it will take you less time. You got this!!! :)
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#feedback It would be helpful to have a quick lesson on phrases that are often seen on LSAT questions that are weird and abstract because we don't use them in regular speech. For example, "takes for granted" colloquially means something totally different than it does on the LSAT, and there are lots of other phrases like that. Those phrases often trip me up and cost me time. I'd love to have a list of some of those weird common phrases and what they mean in the context of the LSAT, kind of like the "over and under inclusive" lists of premise and conclusion indicators, so I can print it out and refer to it often.
This is such a great idea! Furthermore, when I come across words like that, I often think about people taking the LSAT who are not native English speakers. I can imagine that it is even more difficult!
@hannahcrodelle01562 feeling seen <3 non native eng speaker gang: we got this!! well we all got this 😼🙌🏼
5/5 LET'S GOOOOO!!!! 🍾
Necessary assumptions was challenging, so it's nice to see that it was just one particular unit I was struggling with, and that I was capable of doing this. A nice little confidence booster.
Wow, I actually hate this question type!!!
if the stem has ethicist or philosopher in it you know youre cooked
2/5 :D
these questions are such a nightmare for me :( feeling defeated
#feedback the same thing happened to me as other commenters. 2/5 questions were from the You Try questions previously attempted.
I keep accidentally pressing the check after the first question 🤦🏼♀️
sameeee
So real. #feedback I wish the submit check was only clickable on the last question of the drill
Sammeee
4/5, I will take it. Doubt there are a lot of these on the LSAT, so as long as you have a general idea of what is going on I cannot imagine it will be much harder.
Help just went 0/5
5/5 after getting most of the single drills wrong... maybe overthinking is my undoing
i got all of them right throughout the lesson and then got 0/5 on the drill I wanna kms!
ME TOO
I'm telling you, try it again- I took the drill 3 times now, and I still feel only kind of comfortable with AP, drills are the best way to learn!
yes i tried it again today, much better!!
@gusmadero03513 me too :(
Worst I've done on a drill
not knowing the definition of certain words mess me up :(
#feedback I always press the check mark when I mean to press the next arrow, since the other "You Try It" questions only have one question. I think it would be helpful to make a pop-up confirm we are ending the set (especially if we have not answered each question), or make the check mark unavailable until we have answered each question, or make the next arrow work as the submission button once we are at the last question. This way I will not be answering one or two questions, just to hit the submit button (out of a force of habit) and lose the progress for the whole set! Not a big issue, but it might be a QoL improvement. :)
#feedback Also, after all that, I was in the process of blind review and I accidentally clicked on the discussion tab instead of the highlighter. When I used the back button, it erased all of my progress and prompted me to create a new drill. This is more my fault than anything, but another QoL could be to save progress real-time, if possible!
I've done this way too many times. It's good that you can complete it in blind review so it's not the worst thing ever, but it's so frustrating bc I want to know my stats! :')
#feedback - 2/5 of my drill questions were question which we were already drilled on. It would be great if we were able to prevent this
tough section for me :/
3/5, ughhhh
5/5 but every question before this i got wrong lol
@MadelainaFord we love to see growth!
5/5 but I got almost every single question wrong leading up to the drill. don't understand that lmao
@jackZeitlin I was the opposite of you.
3/5 not mad at it tbh I should have had a 4/5 if I did not second guess myself tho smh...
5/5 on medium. Feel like the questions were way different and easier than the lesson questions
3/5 on hard! not too bad
Damn, 2/5 first try, then 5/5 BR. I think I struggle to correctly identify the conclusion even when I think to myself "what is the main point" etc. Anyone have any tips on how to get better with these questions?
@hjr210400 Hi! I got every question in this section right and got 5/5 on the Drill. I also initially struggled with MP questions A LOT (it was really bad and very discouraging) and I did a couple of things that really helped me improve and subsequently helped me do well in this section:
1) Do more Main Point question drills. After your drill, use the "show analysis" feature for each question to identify the context, premises, and the conclusion. I also just got into the habit of using the "show analysis" feature when going through every section purely to drill the distinction between main point and non-main point into my head.
2) When I am stuck trying to decide which out of two statements could be the conclusion, I ask myself why should I believe this statement? The premises should provide evidence for the conclusion. So if one of the two statements I am stuck between is trying to support another statement I immediately know it is not the main conclusion.
3) Obviously there are certain indicators for conclusions like "but, then, thus, etc." But I've also come to realize (and this is not a hard and fast rule) that a lot of main points are framed as opinions, predictions, recommendations, or hypotheses.
I really hope this helps! It took me a very long time, constant drilling and practice to get the hang of it. I'm sure it will take you less time. You got this!!! :)
2/5. uh oh