@jansenbienmbelarmino Aha! That's how they get you. They confuse you with a bunch of facts that are irrelevant to the average reader. But for me, A was wrong because the conclusion was slightly too strong in saying that "it can never be accurate."
Im not here to talk about the logic of the question like you all. Im here to stand up for B. Now ofc, its not right, didnt choose it, not parallel. But the slander, that suggesting B is not logic at all is in my opinion, extreme.
Heres how I read B.
"Our memory of the 1960's TV shows could hardly be improved" Means, we have an understanding of the 1960's tv shows that would be hard to improve. Now, it requires us to make an assumption that because its hard to improve, its a good understanding, but I think that assumption is supported by the next statement
"Because so many of the television programs of the era are still rerun today". Ahh, so we can't improve our understand of the 1960's because we have such a broad base of maintained knowledge (the general principle behind a rerun).
Now is the logic perfect? No, the logic is easy to weaken. But would I make the same argument short handedly at thanksgiving. I sure think so. Because it's simply saying, we still see a lot of the 1960's tv shows today, and therefore we have a solid understanding of the 1960's tv shows.
I eliminated A on shallow dip because it said "can never be accurate", which seemed pretty strong worded to me compared to the stimulus which says "would be misleading".
A felt wrong, but I chose it because C just raised so many red flags.
The stimulus presents historical context used to evaluate present considerations. C talks about current examples and then makes wild unjustified claims about the future. It doesn't even say "will likely be distorted" no, the author is CERTAIN they will be distorted.
I can remember several examples where we have been cautioned to avoid answers that do this.
I guess we just chalk this up to "the answer sucks, but it is better than the rest".
as soon as I got done reading the stimulus all I wanted to do was listen to some Ramones, Siouxsie Sioux, Joy Division, Kraftwerk, etc.. the punk & new wave music that came out of the 70s was incredible.
For anyone who didn't dismiss A, I hope this helps: The stimulus basically cautions against watching music videos as a method to get a grasp of 70s music because cutting-edge musicians (who performed synth pop and punk rock) were the primary makers of music videos. C cautions against using the method of CD format to judge publishing trends because computer game publishers were the primary users of CD format. That parallels the stimulus.
A fails to do this because it's use of the word never is final. We'll never have an unbiased, accurate view of pre printing press. However, both the stimulus and C imply there are alternative means (not music videos, not CDs) to avoid forming a wrong understanding of the trend they're interested in (70s tunes, publishing trends).
A isn't an example of a distorted view gained from a biased selection. If you compare it to C, there is a clearer example of biased selection there vs examples of literature before the printing press
A says that ancient works were chosen by copyists because they though it would be of interest to the public. but the stim dosent say that music videos were chosen because artists thought it would be of interest to the public. it says that music videos would attract cutting edge artists. so essentially youre looking at how something might attract an individual/ group of people. in answer choice C, publishers were "attracted" or more inclined to using the CD-ROM format, which makes it an inaccurate representation of todays publishing trends the same way that only looking at 70s music videos (which were only really used by edgy artists) would be a misrepresentation of music at that time
I'm glad it was the last section because if it was introduced earlier I may have given up completely lol!! I found this section the most challenging, but I think I'm starting to get it.
To answer J.Y.'s confusion on AC B, I think B was trying to imply that because there are so many reruns from the 1960s, they are practically ingrained into the memory of people watching TV, and, thus, because people already have these shows memorized, there's not much more to learn about the TV shows of that era—lots of assumptions to make. Yes: definitely a bad argument, and that's an extremely charitable interpretation.
I felt like I was functioning only on the processes of my brain stem during this question. It's a miracle I still got it right on target time. Something is wrong with my brain today. HEAVY brain fog or a weird array of questions presented, especially this one.
Anyway, I found the answer by noticing that music videos were mentioned at the beginning and the end in the stimulus. It also served as the "medium" for this type of music. I also Noticed that CD-ROM was mentioned twice, in the beginning and end, unlike other questions and served as the "medium" for publishing.
If we made some minor tweaks to E, would it more closely mirror the stimulus?
Our notion of fashion trends will probably be inaccurate if we rely on TV fashion programs, because despite the fact that these programs deliberately select the most outrageous outfits in order to get the viewers' attention.
I'm getting these questions right outrageously early when before I started 7sage I consistently always missed these questions. Good explanations from JY and overall syllabus for Parallels here! #feedback
The conclusion in the stimulus is "this would be a misleading impression."
This can be reworded as a conditional statement "if one has this impression, then one has been misled."
Looking at the stimulus overall, it's clear that the attack is on a hypothetical. The author isn't saying "some people believe that music was dominated by synth and pop rock. However they are incorrect." Instead, they're discussing this conditional form. In that sense, the conditional in answer choice C fits the pattern.
The question stem says 'most similar' and I tend to read that literally. The dominant form of reasoning in the argument is a generalized critique which is best mirrored in C. The other ACs not having a conditional do not mirror the dominant form of reasoning strongly enough to warrant consideration.
I feel like what it comes down to for the difference between A and C is that for C, the author discusses one way of going about things. Then opposes that way (through his conclusion) and provides evidence for that opposition, making an argument against that way of going about things. HOWEVER, in A, the author just discusses one argument.
There is sample bias present in both ACs but the composition of C is most similar to the stimulus.
Need #feedback on this... One thing I'Ve been doing to get the correct answer when I'm between two for example A and C is look at the language they use in the argument. The never in A was too extreme so I was like NOPE. I've been getting these right in about half the target time. LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS DANGEROUS!! BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IMMA STICK BESIDE IT!!!
You're exactly right. For example, If a stimulus uses verbiage indicating something is probabilistic, then the answer choice should mirror that reasoning also suggesting that something is probabilistic. Any other answer choice that uses verbiage that indicates something WILL happen or WILL NOT happen is most likely wrong.
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I chose C and then changed it to A
32 sec under give me the LSAT
was stuck between A and C and ended up choosing A because I had no idea what CD-ROM was...
@jansenbienmbelarmino Aha! That's how they get you. They confuse you with a bunch of facts that are irrelevant to the average reader. But for me, A was wrong because the conclusion was slightly too strong in saying that "it can never be accurate."
@jansenbienmbelarmino same
Im not here to talk about the logic of the question like you all. Im here to stand up for B. Now ofc, its not right, didnt choose it, not parallel. But the slander, that suggesting B is not logic at all is in my opinion, extreme.
Heres how I read B.
"Our memory of the 1960's TV shows could hardly be improved" Means, we have an understanding of the 1960's tv shows that would be hard to improve. Now, it requires us to make an assumption that because its hard to improve, its a good understanding, but I think that assumption is supported by the next statement
"Because so many of the television programs of the era are still rerun today". Ahh, so we can't improve our understand of the 1960's because we have such a broad base of maintained knowledge (the general principle behind a rerun).
Now is the logic perfect? No, the logic is easy to weaken. But would I make the same argument short handedly at thanksgiving. I sure think so. Because it's simply saying, we still see a lot of the 1960's tv shows today, and therefore we have a solid understanding of the 1960's tv shows.
I eliminated A on shallow dip because it said "can never be accurate", which seemed pretty strong worded to me compared to the stimulus which says "would be misleading".
A felt wrong, but I chose it because C just raised so many red flags.
The stimulus presents historical context used to evaluate present considerations. C talks about current examples and then makes wild unjustified claims about the future. It doesn't even say "will likely be distorted" no, the author is CERTAIN they will be distorted.
I can remember several examples where we have been cautioned to avoid answers that do this.
I guess we just chalk this up to "the answer sucks, but it is better than the rest".
i said "its either A or C" before I chose A and hit finish .. crying in the club rn
ez money sub 1:20 gang
I took a little too long here because I was pretty stuck between C and A but C follows the structure of the passage better
A has nothing to do with another perosn or attaction to it so i moved on
as soon as I got done reading the stimulus all I wanted to do was listen to some Ramones, Siouxsie Sioux, Joy Division, Kraftwerk, etc.. the punk & new wave music that came out of the 70s was incredible.
For anyone who didn't dismiss A, I hope this helps: The stimulus basically cautions against watching music videos as a method to get a grasp of 70s music because cutting-edge musicians (who performed synth pop and punk rock) were the primary makers of music videos. C cautions against using the method of CD format to judge publishing trends because computer game publishers were the primary users of CD format. That parallels the stimulus.
A fails to do this because it's use of the word never is final. We'll never have an unbiased, accurate view of pre printing press. However, both the stimulus and C imply there are alternative means (not music videos, not CDs) to avoid forming a wrong understanding of the trend they're interested in (70s tunes, publishing trends).
I honestly still am confused on why we chose C and not A. Can someone please explain?
A isn't an example of a distorted view gained from a biased selection. If you compare it to C, there is a clearer example of biased selection there vs examples of literature before the printing press
A says that ancient works were chosen by copyists because they though it would be of interest to the public. but the stim dosent say that music videos were chosen because artists thought it would be of interest to the public. it says that music videos would attract cutting edge artists. so essentially youre looking at how something might attract an individual/ group of people. in answer choice C, publishers were "attracted" or more inclined to using the CD-ROM format, which makes it an inaccurate representation of todays publishing trends the same way that only looking at 70s music videos (which were only really used by edgy artists) would be a misrepresentation of music at that time
I was between C and E and chose wrongly, because of the 'if'. I correctly flagged, but moved on too fast. sigh* strk ended
so glad they chose parallel questions to be the last section. At least I can finish LR with some hope and dignity .
I'm glad it was the last section because if it was introduced earlier I may have given up completely lol!! I found this section the most challenging, but I think I'm starting to get it.
@famiagul99987 Agree. This has been my favorite section!
To answer J.Y.'s confusion on AC B, I think B was trying to imply that because there are so many reruns from the 1960s, they are practically ingrained into the memory of people watching TV, and, thus, because people already have these shows memorized, there's not much more to learn about the TV shows of that era—lots of assumptions to make. Yes: definitely a bad argument, and that's an extremely charitable interpretation.
I felt like I was functioning only on the processes of my brain stem during this question. It's a miracle I still got it right on target time. Something is wrong with my brain today. HEAVY brain fog or a weird array of questions presented, especially this one.
Anyway, I found the answer by noticing that music videos were mentioned at the beginning and the end in the stimulus. It also served as the "medium" for this type of music. I also Noticed that CD-ROM was mentioned twice, in the beginning and end, unlike other questions and served as the "medium" for publishing.
If we made some minor tweaks to E, would it more closely mirror the stimulus?
Our notion of fashion trends will probably be inaccurate if we rely on TV fashion programs, because
despite the fact thatthese programs deliberately select the most outrageous outfits in order to get the viewers' attention.I'm getting these questions right outrageously early when before I started 7sage I consistently always missed these questions. Good explanations from JY and overall syllabus for Parallels here! #feedback
i gaining hope again, watch me loose it
I hate that it sounds so reasonable when it's explained. sigh
Why was this question more complex then 5/5 difficulty question
4th one right omg
I'm confused - C has a conditional argument but the stimulus doesn't. Does that not count as a reason against C?
#feedback #help can someone explain this? I eliminated C for the same reason
The conclusion in the stimulus is "this would be a misleading impression."
This can be reworded as a conditional statement "if one has this impression, then one has been misled."
Looking at the stimulus overall, it's clear that the attack is on a hypothetical. The author isn't saying "some people believe that music was dominated by synth and pop rock. However they are incorrect." Instead, they're discussing this conditional form. In that sense, the conditional in answer choice C fits the pattern.
The question stem says 'most similar' and I tend to read that literally. The dominant form of reasoning in the argument is a generalized critique which is best mirrored in C. The other ACs not having a conditional do not mirror the dominant form of reasoning strongly enough to warrant consideration.
I feel like what it comes down to for the difference between A and C is that for C, the author discusses one way of going about things. Then opposes that way (through his conclusion) and provides evidence for that opposition, making an argument against that way of going about things. HOWEVER, in A, the author just discusses one argument.
There is sample bias present in both ACs but the composition of C is most similar to the stimulus.
Need #feedback on this... One thing I'Ve been doing to get the correct answer when I'm between two for example A and C is look at the language they use in the argument. The never in A was too extreme so I was like NOPE. I've been getting these right in about half the target time. LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS DANGEROUS!! BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IMMA STICK BESIDE IT!!!
I am doing the same! The stimulus said we are misled, not that we are NEVER right. It definitely works to pick apart the language!
You're exactly right. For example, If a stimulus uses verbiage indicating something is probabilistic, then the answer choice should mirror that reasoning also suggesting that something is probabilistic. Any other answer choice that uses verbiage that indicates something WILL happen or WILL NOT happen is most likely wrong.
details like this are where the LSAT writers are going to trap you, so it's good to pick up on them! this is also why I immediately eliminated A
@griffised ahhhh interesting to note TY for sharing this insight! (someone who was stuck between A and C)