Oh I did not select A but my reason was different, the passage told us that if the information is too negative, it should not be disclosed. In my memory, this part did not mention that this is sth that lawyers are concerned with, it's jut stated as a phenomenon. Further, even if this is implicitly implying that lawyers believe this (overridingly negative info should not be disclosed), answer choice A seems to be contradictory: A essentially says lawyers are especially concerned with positively framing very negative info. However the passage claims that very negative info are simply not disclosed, not positively framed.
Nevertheless I fell for C, I thought it was implied.
Upon reading the lesson, I highlighted "it’s good to make sure that you have specific line support for the answer you pick" on my notes.
If I were to do this again, I would ctrl+F and search for the words "lawyers believe" to get concrete support!!!
First one i got wrong :( was between A and D in actual
Although, this lends credence to my theory that reading the AC's in random order can give you a slight advantage because it can less bias you to confiding in trap answers that feel convincing and are more likely to be A or E ( with absolutely no statistical evidence and this is in jest and im coping )
This question highlights how important writing a low-res summary is! I had a hard time keeping track of different perspectives that I am trying to make it a habit to create my own low-res summaries while reading the passage for the first time. During the RC questions, as they will inevitably ask about different perspectives that was introduced as well as the author, it's super helpful to jot down each pov that's introduced!
Had D then switched to A last second. Completely didn't even realize that I chose A based off the author's opinion and not the many lawyers. This was hard to realize as the two perspectives are generally in agreement, with only a slight difference.
Note to self: Remember even perspectives that are in agreement can differ in the "why they believe" aspect.
@dbasalone No, it suggests that many people can't distinguish between the author's perspective and the perspective of many lawyers (I think it's especially hard here because these two perspectives aren't in opposition).
I wonder if the trend that more people chose A than D would hold true for blind review as well. The fact that (A), the trap answer, was presented first in the answer choices makes it even harder for people under time pressure to not fall into the trap. However, it doesn't mean that (A) is right
@Rena12345 I mean I totally hear you, A is clearly the wrong answer for the LSAT, and I think your point about it being the first AC and the statistical effect that produces is a good one. But in general, if you write a piece that most people interpret in sense X, even if you actually meant to imply sense Y, you really did imply sense X.
@dbasalone Definitely, I think for most pieces intended for casual consumption (where everyone has ample time to read), that would be the case. But the LSAT is intended to test us, so I guess they'd need challenging questions like this one to differentiate between different levels of reading comprehension at the higher end of the curve
@dbasalone No, it empirically suggests that many people misread the question stem and overlooked the part where it says "many lawyers believe". A is clearly the wrong answer, and if you chose it, it's because you were careless in reading the question stem.
@dbasalone I'm sorry you feel that way. I was merely making the point that it's difficult to arrive at A as an answer if you notice that the question stem makes a distinction between what "many lawyers" believe and what the authors believe. But you know what? I bet you won't make this mistake on the test now, because you have this memory. Good score, here we come!
need to learn to be PATIENT PATIENT PATIENT. so much of RC is just about understanding what the question is asking and what the answer choices are saying. EVERY WORD MATTERS. also a little motivation for everyone who also chose A because they didn't read the rest of the choices carefully: stupid mistakes are the best kinds of mistakes. once you learn to not make the same kind of mistake again, you will gradually improve. be kind to yourself and you got this everyone!
someone plz help this is like the fifth time on RC i get it right rly quick and then think nawwww I cant be getting it that quick and then re read and change it
@erarabiameyer I did the same thing...I think it may just take practice trusting ourselves. But what I noted was that the passage never said anything about lawyers perspective for choice A, just the author's perspective. So it can be confusing.
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Oh I did not select A but my reason was different, the passage told us that if the information is too negative, it should not be disclosed. In my memory, this part did not mention that this is sth that lawyers are concerned with, it's jut stated as a phenomenon. Further, even if this is implicitly implying that lawyers believe this (overridingly negative info should not be disclosed), answer choice A seems to be contradictory: A essentially says lawyers are especially concerned with positively framing very negative info. However the passage claims that very negative info are simply not disclosed, not positively framed.
Nevertheless I fell for C, I thought it was implied.
Upon reading the lesson, I highlighted "it’s good to make sure that you have specific line support for the answer you pick" on my notes.
If I were to do this again, I would ctrl+F and search for the words "lawyers believe" to get concrete support!!!
LSAT you just wait I'm nailing you
First one i got wrong :( was between A and D in actual
Although, this lends credence to my theory that reading the AC's in random order can give you a slight advantage because it can less bias you to confiding in trap answers that feel convincing and are more likely to be A or E ( with absolutely no statistical evidence and this is in jest and im coping )
i fell for A :(
I did not understand this one
i'm getting mad
ugh fell for A
bruhness
FMLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Absolutely killing it (on BR lol)
Ctrl F was really useful for this one lmao
Ouch
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@AndyTzul
boom. clap.
This question highlights how important writing a low-res summary is! I had a hard time keeping track of different perspectives that I am trying to make it a habit to create my own low-res summaries while reading the passage for the first time. During the RC questions, as they will inevitably ask about different perspectives that was introduced as well as the author, it's super helpful to jot down each pov that's introduced!
Had D then switched to A last second. Completely didn't even realize that I chose A based off the author's opinion and not the many lawyers. This was hard to realize as the two perspectives are generally in agreement, with only a slight difference.
Note to self: Remember even perspectives that are in agreement can differ in the "why they believe" aspect.
If more people chose A than chose D... doesn't that empirically suggest that A is more strongly implied?
@dbasalone No, it suggests that many people can't distinguish between the author's perspective and the perspective of many lawyers (I think it's especially hard here because these two perspectives aren't in opposition).
I wonder if the trend that more people chose A than D would hold true for blind review as well. The fact that (A), the trap answer, was presented first in the answer choices makes it even harder for people under time pressure to not fall into the trap. However, it doesn't mean that (A) is right
@Rena12345 I mean I totally hear you, A is clearly the wrong answer for the LSAT, and I think your point about it being the first AC and the statistical effect that produces is a good one. But in general, if you write a piece that most people interpret in sense X, even if you actually meant to imply sense Y, you really did imply sense X.
@dbasalone Definitely, I think for most pieces intended for casual consumption (where everyone has ample time to read), that would be the case. But the LSAT is intended to test us, so I guess they'd need challenging questions like this one to differentiate between different levels of reading comprehension at the higher end of the curve
@dbasalone No, it empirically suggests that many people misread the question stem and overlooked the part where it says "many lawyers believe". A is clearly the wrong answer, and if you chose it, it's because you were careless in reading the question stem.
@DavidDuncan88 You having fun being a jackass to people in this thread? Go gloat somewhere else.
@dbasalone I'm sorry you feel that way. I was merely making the point that it's difficult to arrive at A as an answer if you notice that the question stem makes a distinction between what "many lawyers" believe and what the authors believe. But you know what? I bet you won't make this mistake on the test now, because you have this memory. Good score, here we come!
This is the first time I've seen a question where more people got it wrong than right. I got it right but I almost went with A. This question is nuts.
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this question is just insane, people literally got A more than they got D. like HUUHHH
i hate yo
@urmom lsac got me so effed up i can't even spell
I was on a roll until now... thanks for always keeping me humble, 7Sage.
can't even a get a "now this is a hard question" to make me feel better smh
need to learn to be PATIENT PATIENT PATIENT. so much of RC is just about understanding what the question is asking and what the answer choices are saying. EVERY WORD MATTERS. also a little motivation for everyone who also chose A because they didn't read the rest of the choices carefully: stupid mistakes are the best kinds of mistakes. once you learn to not make the same kind of mistake again, you will gradually improve. be kind to yourself and you got this everyone!
damn i rly need to stop over thinking I picked D and then changed to A in Br
someone plz help this is like the fifth time on RC i get it right rly quick and then think nawwww I cant be getting it that quick and then re read and change it
@erarabiameyer I did the same thing...I think it may just take practice trusting ourselves. But what I noted was that the passage never said anything about lawyers perspective for choice A, just the author's perspective. So it can be confusing.
Nah this question got me rethinking my life decisions, this whole section is KILLING ME Y’ALL