Hi! I'm hoping to start law school this fall 2021, and I took the LSAT and got a 150 (I didn't use 7sage, and I'm def going to now). I'm retaking in June, but what I'm wondering is if I should add an addendum to the applications I am finishing this week to say that I'm taking the June test and ask that any negative decisions be withheld until that score is released. The committee would be able to see that I have an upcoming exam on my application, so is this even necessary? I have no idea. I emailed one school to ask for such a request and they basically got back to me and said it wasn't really possible. Thoughts?

I submitted all of my applications in late November, and I'm still waiting to hear back from a bunch. I recently started a new job - would it be a good idea to send in an updated resume now? As far as I can tell, none of the schools that I'm waiting on have any specific instructions about this on their websites. Should I just email it in as a simple attachment? What may be relevant is that there would be an unexplained gap in my resume if I don't submit the update.

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All I can say is I am very shocked. I applied to all my schools back in September, right when apps opened. I pretty much got into the schools I thought and was waitlisted at the reaches and rejected at a super reach. Except one school that I had as a safety. The 7Sage predictor had me at a 99% chance for admittance. I was first offered a waitlist spot just a week after I originally applied- which I found strange. My GPA was over .5 higher than their 75th percentile and my LSAT was at the 50th. I hadn't heard back from them so I emailed last week and sent them updated grades. I told them I was already accepted into several schools and that I was very interested still. I was really hoping for a big scholarship offer. Disclaimer: I have already decided where I'm going with a deposit but always want to keep opportunities opened. They emailed back and said they would review my application if I wanted. Ummm duh I want you to review it, why do I have to email to have that done? At this point I was pretty pissed off and decided it wouldn't work anyways. They told me I would have a decision in 2-3 days. 8 days later, I get an email that a final decision was rendered...I got rejected. I almost laughed out loud. Out of every school I applied to, this was pretty much my lowest safety. I am in no way mad, because in reality I was not going to go there unless they were giving me a full ride and a Tesla. Does anyone else find this scenario strange? Not just the decision rendered but the way admissions handled everything? I've checked Law School Data and based on the admitted students on there, I would have the highest GPA and top 8 LSAT. There is nothing weird or red flags on my application. Could they just be yield protecting since they knew I got into much better schools? Any insight would be nice.

So I received a clearly mass generated email about being on the WL at Washington last week. My name was missing from the salutation in the form, which was a blank space. It said that they would follow up about instructions shortly since I'm being placed on the wait list. However, that was last Friday. Should I follow up at this point?

One thought I have is that it's because I used their website application instead of the LSAC one. I know that the general procedure for them is that once they've decided they want you those who submitted a web based application have to then submit through LSAC but that they give waivers to cover the CAS fee. Perhaps they're waiting to issue those waivers? I obviously don't want to bother them if it's normal. Anyone else been in this position with Washington?

Hi everyone, so I’ve been waitlisted to 2 schools and wanted to shoot my shot by taking the February lsat. However, I did not do better than my November score. I think there were various factors - do people have any experience in this/think I should try to explain to schools or even tell them?

Thank you! And I appreciate any advice.

Hi, hope all are doing very well (3(/p)

I already sent my apps in. For health reasons, I have been unemployed since graduating in 2019. Apart from recovering, I have spent time furthering my education. I wrote an addendum explaining this in my applications and have thankfully been admitted to several law schools already, so I don't believe this has automatically made me unappealing to any law school. I also graduated summa cum laude from an Ivy League, got a 171, and did a lot of extracurriculars and worked part time in undergrad.

I recently got a part-time internship writing articles for a legal firm's website. I just wanted something that would expose me to legal research and writing for the few months before law schools begins. I had a hard time finding full-time jobs that would take me on for such a short time commitment and let me work remotely.

Is this something worth updating law schools that I have not heard from yet? I am also currently waitlisted at 3 schools. Should I update them too?

Also, how should I update them? By sending an updated résumé (which will be mostly identical to the one they already have) or sending an email?

Thank you so much.

I recognize that stats are the most important consideration for any law school, but do you feel it's important to have 'professional' job experience?

Context: I've been working in outdoor retail for 2+ years now, and I'm wondering if I should pick up some sort of extracurricular to strengthen my application, or simply find a new job. I don't think it'll necessarily harm my chances, but will admissions officers likely be unimpressed with my current work?

For those of you who are signed up for another LSAT in hopes to get off a school's waitlist, are you taking the April or June one?

I am registered for April but it seems so soon and I am worried I won't have a drastic enough of a score change. Would love to have some wisdom shed on this topic because I know some schools like Georgetown start reviewing waitlist students in the spring while many also do summer. Thanks in advance!

Should I go with FSU law which has Tution that will cost me on average 27k a year after scholarship

Or should I go with SMU law which will cost me 43 k a year after scholarship ?

CAS UGPA: 3.68

LSAT: 172

Schools:

UPenn

NYU

Georgetown

Duke

Northwestern

UVa

Michigan (in-state; undergrad school)

WashU

Strong and unique softs (3 years working in DC working on a niche policy issue by the time I matriculate, lots of publications)

I think I could get a 174+ if I retook it in June/August but is it worth the extra studying time and the cost of the test and of more prep?

When colleges ask "Has your education in college, university, or professional school been interrupted for one term or more for any reason?" what exactly do they mean? I received my bachelors degree in september and won't be starting school again until / if I am accepted for law school this fall. Does this count as a break/interruption? Or do they only mean a break/interruption as in someone taking time off whilst in the process of getting a degree? Thanks !!

I know that 7Sage offers several different admissions packages, but I'm not sure what I need right now. I was hoping to be able to chat with an admissions consultant and get some insight into my situation, (I am a nontraditional applicant.) I'm not sure how this works.... do consultants on here have an hourly rate, or is there someone who would be willing to chat with me and answer a few questions? I've been reading on here how competitive law school admissions are getting, and I'd greatly appreciate some feedback on my soft qualifications.

Thanks!

So there are few recent articles (law.com, above the law) remarking that this is shaping up to be the most competitive LSAT cycle in the last 20 years. Any thoughts on what is driving that trend on the impact it has on this year's applicants?

Hey folks, I got into a law school, a fairly good one (top 50) without taking the LSAT (some schools have an LSAT exemption policy). The cost is also not really a relevant discussion here. My question: do I take the opportunity and go or do I take the LSAT and risk it? Right now I am testing in the low 160s and have never scored higher than a 163. Thoughts?

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Looking for some hope.. with these numbers do I have a chance of getting into law school?

Hi Yall,

I just got my first offer and its from Indiana with a pretty good scholarship offer(over 40K) but the package is renewable contingent upon me maintaining a 2.3 GPA or higher. Is this the infamous Conditional Scholarship that I heard so much about in various forums and recruitment events or is this a regular condition that comes with all scholarship?

I heard that schools might put all their conditional scholarship students in one session like some sort of scholarship hunger game to save them some money but it is also my understanding that most law school curve their grades toward around 3.0-3.2 range(could totally be wrong, this is just me guessing), so a 2.3 GPA does not seem that outrageous to me. My thinking is if I get a 2.3 or lower I'll probably drop out anyway since the job prospect is pretty bleak for the bottom third of a non-T14 school students.

So should I go back and argue for the admission staff to take the condition off my scholarship offer or should I not worry about it?

It seems that one's chances are lower as a non-citizen international student. Part of this might be because law schools worry that non-citizens need sponsorship to work after graduation. Does anyone have experience applying as a lawful permanent resident/green card holder (who is eligible for citizenship in a few years)?

I assume this status eliminates the concern that one might not be able to get a job in the U.S. after graduation/clerk. Can anyone speak to whether LPR/green card holders are treated the same as US citizens in the eyes of the top law schools?

Hi there - I am applying this year’s cycle for entry in 2022, and just trying to get ahead of all materials needed for when the applications open. Does anyone have any suggestions or guidance on when is best to start asking your connections for letters of rec? I was thinking May/June if I want to apply early in the cycle (ie close to when apps open).Any thoughts?

Hola all I'm Mark I got a 169 in October and had around 20 apps ready to fire away as soon as I got my test results back. I'd like to share my results so far as well as some waitlist management advice. I've been obsessing about getting off the waitlist and have done a ludicrous amount of research (research sounds better than obsession).

I am what the Dean of admissions at Yale called a "super soft" aka military veteran and my ugpa was 3.42 which is notably low for t14.

Accepted with scholarship: Uga, Emory, Notre Dame

Denied: Harvard, Chicago, Cornell, Berkeley

Waitlist: UCLA, Georgetown, Northwestern, Penn, Michigan

My top choice is Northwestern and I'm doing everything in my control to get off their waitlist. Ultimately it will come down to how their class looks after their first and second deposit deadlines and what they class needs in terms of student demographic composition, and what the school's/Dean's goals are for that class (based on interviews I've listened to from Deans admissions officers etc).

Here is my waitlist advice I've gleaned from Harvard and Yale Deans, Michigan ad com officers, Harvard as com person, Michigan person, + my personal interactions with adcom.

Waitlist: do whatever the school asks in their waitlist email. Every 3-4 weeks and especially just after/before their deposit deadline write a letter of continued interest loci. You can print and handsign then upload as a PDF. Some schools don't care about loci format others may. In loci you can specify certain clinics, work programs, professors, courses that you're interested in. It really looks good if those are linked to a topic you expressed interest in in a PS or resume. Show how you love the city / want to live in the school's area. If you have a specific reason you like the school mention it. If it's your #1 pick and you would attend no matter what, say so. Be careful mentioning other competing offers - comes off as threat.

That's not exhaustive but it's a pretty good start. Best of luck!

For those interested in an extra data point, here was my cycle. nURM, average applicant, 16high 3.6low.

ASU- $$+

Fordham- $$+

GULC- dong

Cornell- dong

USC- WL

BU- WL

NDLS- WL

UT- WL

UMN- $$$

UF- $$$+

WUSTL- WL

UGA- $$$

Boulder- $$

I'm withdrawing all my applications.

To be honest, I was in a hurry to become a white-collar working professional and make a respectable salary. Not everyone (least of all the KJDs with zero experience in the labor force) would want to work in a law office 40+ hours a week, which is why I recommend taking a gap year to test the waters. Imagine doing something you hate AND having 6-figure debt to your name :( it doesn't have to be that way. There are many other professions that pay better than law, have better work environments and have serious shortages of smart, driven candidates who can get the job done. It's never too late to make that change (not in my experience, at least).

I wish you all the best!!!

I recently asked one more professor to write me a letter of recommendation. She wrote and sent it to me around mid Feb. If I plan to apply for admissions again this Oct/Nov, will it be okay to reuse the letter of recommendation without needing to ask to reuse?

Some accidents happened to my CAS Report and it probably will not be complete until mid-April. I am thinking about 1) just not do anything and see what may happen in the end, maybe some schools still want me (but probably not my dream schools) 2) withdraw my applications and apply early next cycle

The reason why I am considering option 2 is because I am worried I may need to rewrite my app materials all over again, most of which I just finished in January and the next cycle is just half a year away. Let's say if admissions offices read my app this May, my stories will become a "recent old news" for them in Sept. Is my worry justified? And if I withdraw, am I a reapplicant next cycle?

Thanks!

I hope everyone is keeping their heads up in these times.

I got waitlisted and would like to send an updated resume. Since I finished the LSAT, I have been learning the Russian language. I know Arabic, Hebrew and conversational Spanish and I chose Russian because I love the language and have always wanted to learn it. I also know that being a multi-lingual lawyer can only be a competitive plus. Does anyone know how I can go about sending an 'updated resume'?

This is what I have so far but it feels so bland. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you everyone.

Dear Admissions Committee,

Thank you for reviewing my application for admission to XX School of Law. Since completing the LSAT, I have been teaching myself the Russian language. A multi-lingual lawyer is indispensable and learning Russian can only open more doors of opportunity for myself and put me at a competitive edge.

Furthermore, I would like to express my continued interest in the school of law.

Sincerely,

XX