Hi everyone,

I am an international student going into my junior year and I am hoping to go directly to law school after college. In October, I am starting a year-long law program at the faculty of law at Oxford. I hear that the program is very intensive and I am bit worried about how realistic it would be for me to do LSAT prep while there. I am very hard working and driven which has also made more prone to burn out just because I always try to do too much and overthink everything (as you will see from this post). I am afraid the same would happen for my LSAT and Oxford program so I am seeking advice on how to go about it.

I did a diagnostic test and I got 139 and my goal is in the range of 167-172 (I need about 30 points increase which is a lot I know). I am really bad at standardized tests but I know I can improve with practice. I also like the learning that comes with LSAT so I am motivated in that way. I am willing to take as much time and effort as possible to reach my target score even if that means taking time off after college. But I also can't help but want to go directly to law school.

I have been working at a T14 law school and a top law firm this summer which has been a great experience. The general advice I would often hear with the legal professionals and my colleagues is that we highly recommend taking time off after college but they would tell me that they don't think I need that. They would say I am already mature enough and have the experiences of a professional. I am a couple of years older than the typical college student. This is not to brag but to give a perspective, I also founded my NGO at age 16, managed grants projects with +100k dollars budget, and I have lived and worked internationally. At my college, I have loved the academics and studying but it has been harder to connect with the rest of the student body because it feels that we are at different stages of our lives. Even my professors would say that I am like a grad student to them and I have built great relationships with them.

Now all that to say is I am impatient about law school and becoming a lawyer and I think I am ready for it. But I am also very insecure about my LSAT and ability to improve within that time frame I have left (a year) given my intensive academic program. What are your thoughts? Am I being irrational and paranoid? Do you think my LSAT target score is realistic within that timeframe? Also, should I just let go of studying for LSAT at Oxford and instead focus on my program there and plan to apply to law school in the 2024 or 2025 cycle?

I have noticed these forums have been very helpful others so wanted to give it a try and be as transparent and vulnerable about my worries as possible.

Thank you everyone!

Hi all! I'm writing my first LSAT in August, and I was wondering when I should be expecting the email to sign up for Proctor U and schedule my exam time? I couldn't find any answers on the LSAC website, so I'm reaching out to you lovely people!

Hello,

I am having troubles with my lsat score not improving. However it is also not declining either which is good (I hope)

Looking for some advice from anyone who has overcome this problem. I plan on applying for law school this fall and would really like to overcome this ASAP.

So, I always do really great in practice and drills, but everytime I take a prep test I just dont do well. I will go through 30 questions timed and get nearly every single one right while I am drilling different things, but then I sit down to do a whole prep test and get way too many wrong even though I know what I have to do. Has this happened to anyone else? Any tips? I feel like maybe I am not taking the prep tests as seriously as I should and not acting as if they are the real thing to really see where I am at.

is the new lsat (all 2022 tests) 3 or 4 scored sections? i've read different things.

Hey everyone!

7Sage tutor/manager Raphael here - in this week's LSAT Digest, I discuss how to study for a retake. Find it here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/studying-for-a-retake?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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I recently completed the first PT in the curriculum (February 1997) and was very surprised to see I achieved a 166. Due to the age of this LSAT, is this score inflated compared to what my score would be on a modern version of the test? If I took the modern LSAT tomorrow, would I expect a similar score (of course ignoring nervousness and slightly changed question types)?

I also took the October 2002 PT and scored 162, but since this is also quite old, is this score also inflated?

Ive read the "how to understand your LSAT score" thing many times, but im still not sure if I completely understand, and perhaps this is where my confusion is coming from.

Thanks!

#help

Need an affordable tutor (20$ to 30$) specifically for LR. I am currently at -6/7.

I notice that I consistently struggle with stims or RC passages that deal with econ subjects - does anyone have any suggestions of outside resources I could read/listen through? I want to supplement my LSAT studying with outside content on specific subjects since I find I kind of get paralyzed by econ based questions since I never studied it in uni.

I'm thinking maybe podcasts or articles/books to help me get more comfortable with the terms that often come up in those types of questions so I can hopefully stop overthinking them.

Thanks!

So next to all lessons on the syllabus there is an estimated time it takes to complete that lesson. Do you all find the estimate to be a reasonable amount of time per lesson?

I am asking because I just spent about an hour and a half on a lesson that is estimated at 7mins. I find I frequently take much longer than the estimated time (I have never requested or received extended test times or any other accommodations in college).

I spent that time reading the text, watching the video, hand writing notes, reading some of the comments, and copying down very helpful info from the top rated comments, and googling a few quick definitions.

I just constantly feel like I am going too slow, and not making enough progress fast enough. If I recall, the total estimated time for my study plan is like 577 hours. If that is calculated using their estimated times, and I almost always run over, the 577 is gonna be more like 1000 or 1500+ hours of studying. Meaning instead of being able to stick to my 9 or 12 months of studying it could be 24 or even 36+ months of studying. Which is kinda freaking me out at this point. Anyone have any advice or anything?

where can I find JY talk about this knock out vs sneak in method? I cannot find the lesson, I even already asked this question and then lost the lesson/wherever I asked the question AGAIN lol! Thank you in advance to anyone who knows!

Just getting started with 7sage and wanted to know if drills were incorporated into our study schedule or if that's something we should do on our own? I also saw that these drills come from PTs and wanted to know if that would affect my performance when I take these tests after completing the core curriculum.

can I see how long / many hours I have spent doing the drills section?

Hi all!

First off, I want to say thank you to the 7sage community and the various tutors that have helped me along the way, @Mike_Ross @"Heart Shaped Box" , and @BinghamtonDave . All of them have been invaluable in the process of “taking down” this test! Couldn’t ask for more.

I imagine some of you might wanna know how I got here. Allow me to explain.

Well, it started in July 2019 with a Testmasters course (terrible decision I know) and consisted of about 2 years of actual studying. To say that it’s been a rollercoaster of emotions would be an understatement. Since undergrad was fairly easy, I thought I’d study for 3-4 months and ace this test like usual. Boi was I wrong!!!!

It was difficult, I felt incompetent, & I wanted to give up. But, (I know, cliche) I persisted. I drew motivation from various posts here which pushed me to continue. Simultaneously, I began to search for other sources for help. The most useful for me were:

The Loophole by Ellen Cassidy

Khan Academy

Manhattan Prep's forum

I'll explain what from each of those sources were most helpful, starting with The Loophole.

While the book doesn't necessarily offer anything novel in terms of LSAT "theory", it did have 2 aspects that I found super beneficial. The first being how the book teaches you to find the assumptions in an argument. I struggled with this a lot before reading the book. It asks you to find the loophole (the thing that would ruin the argument) by asking "what if...this bad thing is true?" For whatever reason, asking "what if" after reading an argument helped me get to the assumptions easier. Eventually, I stopped having to do this as I imagine I internalized it and assumptions were just so apparent then.

The second element of the book and probably most beneficial to my studies was the translation drill. At its core, the drill asks you to read a stimulus once and then write out what it said w/o going back. This does two things: it improves your memory but more importantly, for me, it examines whether you actually understand what you're reading and it turned out I didn't. In my experience, it was a combination of reading too fast, nerves, and not being focused that were isrupting my comprehension. I had to force myself to slow down and to focus on the subject and verb predicate (I also tried to visualize as I read). The nerves went away with successful repetition.

Khan Academy

I was thoroughly pleased with their RC strategies. The most important thing to success in RC is that you understand the function of paragraphs with respect to the others and the function of sentences with respect to other sentences. The former is pretty straight forward so I'll just explain what I mean by the latter. Sometimes you'll come across a sentence within a paragraph that seems to not fit within the given paragraph that it's in. But, the thing is, it absolutely fits. You just didn't understand its function in relation to the rest of the paragraph. This is by design to confuse you. Your goal is to connect the dots to the other sentences.

KA advocates that you think of why the author included something, which is really just asking what the function of something is.

Manhattan Prep Forums

I'm not sure this needs any explaining. Whenever I felt I still didn't quite understand an LR question after watching a 7sage explanation vid and perusing the comments, I would go straight to their forums. Great written explanations there.

Those are the highlights of my journey. Of course, lots of drilling and BR and thoroughly examining my weaknesses on spreadsheets.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to message me!

And before I go, I just want to say to anyone barely starting off or if you've been at it for a while that it's normal to feel overwhelmed or discouraged. Remember, progress is not linear. You're capable. And with diligent study, you can reach your goal score!

I am not sure why the time on the core curriculum problem sets populates to unlimited time. Can someone please help!!

Not a problem, just a question. There seems to be a certain keyboard shortcut when using the drilling interface. Shift + WIN key brings up a little shield that covers the question and answer choices from view. What is the purpose of this?

Why does the majority of 7sage PT's begin with the RC section when you select the "simulate modern" format? I don't want to begin almost every PT with RC. Is there some way to change this??

Is drilling mode Auto Builder not working for anyone else? I was so excited when this feature came out and utilized it for about a week before it stopped working. I thought it was a temporary bug but I haven't been able to use it for over 2 weeks now. Anyone else?

Hey everyone, I am scoring in the high 170's and am willing to tutor for free. I can guide in terms of the study material, send explanations for specific doubts, explain concepts or anything you'd like. I am working currently so regular video calls might not be possible. Regular mails, texts and sharing notes would be more feasible. If this interests anyone please feel free to hit me up!

Edit: Sent a DM to everyone who commented. Won't be able to accommodate any more people now. Will put another post if any room clears!

Once I finish the Blind Review for problem sets how do I advance or see how I did on that set?

Whenever I try to put together drills, the screen becomes more compressed and I get a notice saying I need to wait for the page to load or exit the page. If I wait the notice pops up again. Is there a technical issue, or something on my end? Thanks in advance!

When using auto drilling, is there a way to ensure it does not repeat previously drilled questions?

For instance, if you choose to drill 10 random LR questions that you got wrong in all your PTs, then you finish that, if you do another set of 10 random, will it be sure to not repeat any of the previous 10?

Has anyone used a virtual flashcard app? I've got a busy, hands-full life but have small pockets of time between shuffling kids around/errands in which I could squeeze in small study bites but don't want to bring a pocketful of old school flashcards everywhere. I could make my own and save as a digital file but I'd rather have something that could randomize them

Hey everyone, I am hoping y'all have some advice on how you go about reading comprehension on the digital LSAT. A lot of the CC teaches methods like a low res summary next to the paragraph and slashes indicating a switch in topic. Any recommendations on how to make the most out of your scratch paper for RC? I am currently struggling the most with RC and I am really eager to make improve. Any advice is appreciated!

I scored in the low 170s for my past 3 PTs with -0 LG / -1 to -5 LR / -3 to -5 RC. I felt so confident after writing the PTs and after spending around 3 hours on BRs (ie. thinking I'm going to get -0 in LR). I guess my problems is I really can't figure out the correct answer for some questions even without the time constraints.

How do i move forward? I have only completed 25% of CC, should I go back to CC and leave PT for a while?