This is my first official LSAT and I didn't ever dream I would score this high! I had an average in the low 170's, besides one major outlier of a flex at 179 I never scored anywhere near 177 and it still feels surreal to see my score. Glad to never have to look at this test again

Hey guys I wanted to make this post for anyone who has doubts about their ability to reach a better score on the LSAT. This course has been incredibly helpful for me so if you’re reading this, just know it can be helpful for you too. But as with all things, you get what you put into it.

I last took the LSAT in the summer of 2018, then again in January 2019. Both times scoring a 160. At the time, I was finishing my senior year at the U of I, hopeful that I would be able to score well enough on the LSAT to offset a passable GPA. I figured that’d I’d hit my ceiling and took a break from thinking about law school. After scoring 160 twice, the LSAT became some scary obstacle that I couldn’t quite overcome, keeping me out of my dream school.

Anyways long-story short, I picked it back up again this January while being employed full-time as an environmental engineer. I worked 10 hour days, but still made time to study during my breaks (secretly) and every day after work. My first diagnostic test score was a 158, and I almost dropped the course altogether.

Instead, I stuck with it. I learned each concept in order and didn’t jump around or skip concepts that I assumed I understood. I stayed honest with practice tests, each time taking it all the way through without breaks and not giving myself extra time to fill in questions at the end. I focused on blind review, starting with figuring out the right answer myself before watching JY’s analysis and peering into the comments to learn from interpretations posted by fellow 7sagers. I found different strategies to attack each section and honed them to answer the questions under time constraint.

By the end of the course, and before the June LSAT, I was averaging a 166 cumulatively, with high scores around 173 (I got these scores on tests where I did everything right). When it came test day I scored a 168 and ran out of time on the last section of logic games. (PS - Make sure you draw your rules into your game board before jumping into the questions!!)

Anyways, I hope this helps to put aside any of your doubts about not being able to reach a better score, because you can. Best of luck to you all! If you have any questions or comments feel free to message me!

I'm hoping someone can help me on where to begin with retaking. I just took the June LSAT and scored a 151. Obviously not horrible, but also not where I was wanting, since I was at least PT-ing around 155-158 in the weeks leading up to my test date. I do feel like I had some external factors that didn't help (mental health, burnout from school, winter storm) and I didn't study for as long as I would have liked, nor did I take every PT available to me. I know some people feel as if they can't really improve from their first test, but since it is so "low" I'm really hoping that I can. For anyone who is also planning a retake, or has successfully retaken the LSAT, I would really appreciate any advice. I'm not looking to be in the 160's or 170's; I am very happy with the high 150's, since that's all I really need for where I want to go to school. Is this realistic? Smart? I'd appreciate any help or encouragement!

So I'm sure there are tons of previous discussion forum posts about this exact question, but I wanted to make my own so I could insert where I am personally.

I have a 160 score on file from February... I took the LSAT basically on a whim and studied for about a week or two (and that study was largely unproductive since I was taking non-timed individual sections without blind review, etc.).

I've now been using 7Sage for about a month and am progressing very well. It seems like I can make a significant improvement on my February score and open up more opportunities for myself. I think I'm trending towards the 165-170 mark and that feels like a completely different score than the 160 I have currently. However, I've always heard that applying as early as possible is a good thing for law school.

Could someone give me advice on whether or not waiting until early November is "too late" for the next cycle as far as scholarships, etc. are concerned? I understand that every cycle is different, but what's the norm?

I could probably stretch and make it through the Core Curriculum in time for the August LSAT date - but I'd definitely be rushing and wouldn't have the opportunity to really reflect on what I've learned, or to solidify those skills with multiple practice tests.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks everyone.

Starting ssri's- and I just want to know whether it's prevented anyone from getting a high score on the actual test. I managed to do pretty well on the January LSAT (172) before I started medication, an am aiming for a retake in August shooting for 175+. I'm just scared that it'll totally prevent me from doing well!

Hi, I wanna know which tutor approved by 7 sage is especialy helpful for ESLs.

I contacted Sami but it seems she is quite occupied.

Who else will you recommend? Thanks!

Hi everyone, I just received my first LSAT score, which is 161...My practice score was ranging between 163-168, so I feel I need retake it. I have a full-time job and my goal would be 170s. Do you recommend me to take it in August or October?

Thanks!

Does anyone know the closing time for the 7Sage 7K Law School Scholarship? It says on July 1st. Does that mean at midnight tonight or tomorrow?

How many of the study sets do y'all do before moving on to the next topic? I realized I should probably hold off some to come back to so I can study with them later. I'm at the point where if I get a consistent 5/5 on timed and BR I move on, but looking for feedback and any recommendations from y'all! LMK good luck studying

I couldn't sleep well yesterday since I was so worried about my score. I got up at around 6 AM to check my score and it is 162. This is the third time I took this test: I got 161 in Nov 2020 and still 161 in Jan 2021. Though one-point improvement does somewhat enable me to console myself, I am unhappy. I have been on the waitlist of my top-choice law school which is one of those T14s, so this June test is important for me to improve my chance of being admitted... I hate to say this but I am thinking about giving it up. I have prepared for the LSAT for one year and my diagnostic score is 149 (untimed), and I really appreciate that 7Sage has helped me to increase my score by 13 points.

I know there are people whose scores are lower than mine, but the 162 will still keep me away from my dream school. Moreover, since I already took a gap year after my high school graduation, my family doesn't allow me to gap one more year this time to reapply for the law schools, which means, this is supposed to be the last LSAT I could take in my whole life. My average PT score is 168, so I felt extremely frustrated when I saw the 162. I expected to see a more huge progress like a 3-point improvement, but unfortunately, I don't. I know there are so many people who took the test at least 5 times and got their target scores, and I know I can never be one of them.

I feel so bad to say this, but I don't have any more chance to retake the test, and what's more, I don't wanna retake it anymore. I am tired, anxious, and always wanna cry when thinking about how I let my family and friends down and how all of my efforts become in vain. Thus, to overcome this negative mindset, I plan to take a break this summer before entering the law school which accepts me, so that I can spend time do something else, such as doing workouts, reading books, learning Japanese, etc.

My next step is to go to the school that admits me and then struggle to get transferred next year. (Because this school is much much far away from my home and I wanna meet with my family often, and also, it is more expensive than my dream school). I don't know if I should take another LSAT for the transfer purpose, so I would appreciate if any of you can provide any tips.

Congratulations to all of you who took the June test. LSAT is such a challenging task in our lives and I cannot imagine how brave and grit one should be and how hard one should work to get over it. I apologize if I am not making sense or this post makes any of you who is preparing for the LSAT feel scared.

Some of you might be disappointed with your score today. If you haven't yet, take a moment to write down everything you can recall from the test... how you felt, the difficulties you encountered, etc. This will be valuable going forward.

Now check this out: the score you want is absolutely achievable. Yes, for you specifically. Just don't give up.

I felt the same way you do right now... several times. I have 7 scores, 5 are in the 16low and below range, and just one in my target score range. The test is unforgiving, and brutally consistent at exposing your weaknesses. You just haven't figured out what works yet. What you can't see that people who have finished can (especially those of us who teach this test and remain part of this community) is that this is just one more piece of the puzzle for you. This needed to happen for you to get where you're going. Every score release I have clients who are crushed by an underperformance. Those are the same people who if they stick with it, absolutely destroy the test a few months later... I've been talking to them all morning today. People who went from almost giving up on school altogether to having a legit shot at HYS this coming cycle... people who are now withdrawing from their regional acceptances to take a swing at the T14. This happens reliably, every. single. test. The major factor that allows people to ultimately succeed? Not giving up. The rest will follow.

You want to go to law school for a reason... that goal determines the type of school you want, which determines the score range you need. Unless we compromise our goals, you just need to decide that you will do what needs to be done. Maybe it'll take longer than expected, but I'd say your dreams are worth it.

Congrats to everyone getting their scores today. Regardless of the outcome, you are now one step further along in your journey.

Wow the 7Sage Analytics average score was my exact Flex score! Thank you JY and 7Sage community wishing you all the best and may all your dreams come true!!!

I have taken the LSAT 4 times. I have gone 158 -> 160 -> 164 -> 163, all of which were terrible disappointments for me. Especially the last one from this November, which has completely shattered my confidence that I can do well on the LSAT.

Because of personal financial reasons, it is extremely hard to justify attending law school outside of the T14. My gpa is 3.77, so with a 164, even th T20 is largely out of the question. Let alone any scholarship.

I have managed to get logic games to -0/-1 largely thanks to 7sage, but I have just constantly struggled with LR. I can do BR, I can prepare, I can elinjnage wrong answer choices, but I cannot improve it no matter how hard I try. Everytime I go back to see what I did wrong on a question, the reasoning JY uses doesn't seem like something I can replicate and always seems to be unique to that specific question. It seems entirely contingent on sone manner of intuition that can't be explained in a way I can repeate another LR.

I don't know if a fifth take will do it for me. I am starying to believe I am simply too unintelligent to score 170+ on this exam and that building up these skills requires a core level of intuition you simply can't train. The logic games follow the same patterns. RC can be fairly repeatable. But LR seems totally alien and the explanation is completely different every single time. Even when I see the correct answer, especially for difficult question, I fail to understand the explanation for the correct and why the wrong answer isn't correct.

Employment prospects for law schools outside the T14 and at least the T20 are quite miserable. If I can't attend those institution, I greatly struggle with why I should attend at all. Perhaps the trades woukd better suit me.

Hi,

I am just curious is the June 2021 disclosed? I remember hearing all flex exams are nondisclosed exam except the May 2020 one. But just wanted to double check!

Thanks!

Does anyone know of legal jobs that involve or allow for part-time work? I'm just curious, and would appreciate any and all leads you all have for niches in the field of law (or even outside of law, but suitable for people with a JD) that are amenable to part-time or flexible work.

I've fallen really really behind on my 7sage self studying due to summer jobs and classes. I'm planning on taking the lsat in early-mid fall. I've taken the lsat before last year, but wanting this time to be my last time.

Can you recommend what lessons really pay attention to for all 3 areas (LG, LR, RC)? If not all three, then at least LG. Because I'm so behind, I don't think it would be beneficial to my studying if I were to play catch up. Instead, I would like to focus on the lessons that really target those areas.

In addition to this, I'm planning on taking as many practice tests as possible. Someone wrote on here once they were taking 3 tests a day which I can only dream of doing, but planning on taking a test every other day.

Any other studying advice and tips would be appreciated! :)

Thank you in advance!

I've now scored 168 three times with a 166 sandwiched in between. PTs have been consistently above 170 of late but clearly it hasn't happened on the real thing. Already registered for one last rip in August. Anybody else managed to pull this ignominious feat? I need to commiserate.

Just for your encouragement, I am a full time worker, work in a stressful environment. I scored 134 in June 2020 test, and June 149 2021 ( Thanks 7sage). I am not really happy but I am satisfied. Hopefully I can get in to a >100 and practice law.

November 2020 LSAT I got a 145 I quit work and studiying full time with max units at university April LSAT I got a 157 I went harder never lost sight and in June 2021 YA mans got a 166 NEVER GIVE TF UP if I can do it anyone can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some context - I took the Lsat in January and got a low 160s score for the third time. Each time a new section would throw me off (I’d walk out of the test thinking I got destroyed by a section because I genuinely didn’t understand a passage, figure out a game or felt that the LR was hard question after hard question). My official scores were always on the lower end of my test practice anywhere from low to high 160s.

Feeling discouraged, I decided to take a couple weeks off and prepare to retake again this June. I hired a private professional tutor who helped me focus on fundamentals like being extremely precise with my reading and understanding of passages and stimuli where I saw consistent improvements in my practice. By fully understanding the questions and the all the ACs I was able to improve my accuracy a lot. I began timing myself when I could consistently get -2/-4 on LR and -3/-4 avg on RC. I was taking one full timed exam a week and reviewing/taking timed sections during the week. I repeated this up until June where my pts ranged from mid 160s to low mid 170s. I was -2/-4 on Lr, -1/-2 games, and -3/-5 on RC on average on full tests timed. Many misses were from timing on Lr/RC from skipping the PR/PF/insane diagramming or just running out of time. I’d also make mistakes from falling for trap answer choices. I’d always make one small error on LG from misreading or guessing.

This June, I blanked on a game guessing on 4 questions and thought the Lr questions were were difficult to understand especially in the beginning. RC I felt rushed toward the end but I understood all the passages. I’m really upset that I blanked on the game because it was a fair game that was similar to something I remembered in my practice. I don’t know what caused me to miss out on making the necessary inferences and falling apart. ( I had 8-9 mins so I definitely had enough time for this game).

Overall I didn’t think the test was hard and in fact I thought it was easier than the other ones I took. I also don’t believe that a hard test is a reason for not doing well since all the sections end up balancing out. If I had to guess I’d say I missed 5 on lg, maybe 7-9 on Lr and probably at least 3/4 on RC. As you can tell I’m falling way below my average with LG and Lr.

As a result I ended up doing a lot worse than my PTs and didn’t see any improvement from January. I feel confused because I spent so much time, energy, resources studying, and I’ve fallen short so many times.

In terms of my goals I’m not even aiming for a certain score at this point - all I want is to see some improvements. But after so long and so many misses I’m not sure how to move forward.

I’ve done every game multiple times timed, read each passage either from cc or timed sections/test and also done and reviewed almost every LR except for some super old ones. I want to give it one more shot but don’t know how to prepare given what I’ve already done and don’t want to see the same result repeat. Appreciate any advice. Thank you!

Hello hello,

I am coming on to say that my LSAT journey has seemingly come to a close after receiving my June flex score! I am proud of how far I have come and so ready for the steps ahead. The point of this post, though, is not to rejoice in my journey but thank all of those who made it possible for me. I literally do not think I could have accomplished what I did without 7Sage- JY (of course!), the other instructors, and the whole community. To all my fellow 7Sagers- you guys were some of my most important cheerleaders and people I looked to for advice. The forums on here are truly amazing, and I loved being able to interact with everyone in such a seamless fashion. Even if only one person sees this who is beginning their journey on 7Sage, I will be happy. May it be a sentiment and hopefully motivation to those who need it. To everyone not done yet- keep going. You truly can accomplish anything you set your mind to. I've heard so many people say this and never really took it to heart. Trust me, it's true and you'll get there. It's good to push yourself and realize that goals should require continuous dedication. And to those who have completed this journey alongside of me- CONGRATS. This is such an exciting time, may the future be bright for all.

LSAC told me that my test session was being reviewed; how long do I need to wait for the score to be released? My writing portion was done prior to the April exam and not getting a score has made me anxious.

My highest score I have ever gotten from a practice test was a 152. It was from The LSAT For Dummies second edition. I'm pretty sure it was not an official test, however. How accurate can I assume the test was if this was not the case? Just wondering, because I would like to know if this accurate reflects my ability or if I should just disregard it because it's not an official test.

If anybody has read this book, would you recommend it for someone who is really struggling with LR even after going through the entire CC here on 7sage?

My june test session is on hold for a review. Is there such a hold on file due to score jump between 2 tests. I called LSAC today and they said they have never seen such hold.