Here's my situation - I have been out of undergraduate for about 3 years but am fortunate to have incredible relationships with multiple professors particularly in the economic department since I was part of a special program there (did a really great independent study with one, continued to work with and successfully published a paper with another after graduation, and even went back a separate time to speak to current students about why they should be an Econ Major). I think there are probably three professors that could write particularly strong letters on my behalf from this department.

There is also another professor in the Poli Sci department that I had a very strong relationship with my first couple of years while in college (worked with him to present a paper at an academic conference) but not as much during my Junior and Senior years (just happened that I had completed all my Poli Sci classes early and ended up being more involved in the Econ Dept during the latter half of my years) and unlike my relationships with professors in the Economics Dept, I have not kept up with him.

Additionally, I worked for ~2.5 years in a professional environment and think that there are 1-2 people that I worked with in a supervisory role that would also be able/willing to write me a strong letter.

So far, I have decided that I am definitely going to ask two Economics Professors and one letter from my work experience. My question is how I should allocate a 4th letter, if at all? I don't want to overwhelm the application reader with taking on a 4th letter but I know that it would be strong.

Option 1) Additional Academic Letter (from Poli Sci)

Option 2) Additional Academic Letter (from Econ)

Option 3) Additional Professional Experience Letter

Option 4)

No forth letter

I know I'm in a great spot here but just want to make sure that I make the best decision.

I still can't figure out how to use this site and I spend a lot of time just navigating the site which is a complete waste. Why can't I go back to the question to see the answers I chose if I'm watching explanation videos? And no, the links to the videos on how to use the site didn't help. Please advise

I just finished the CC a week ago and registered for the August LSAT. I have taken timed (and untimed for LG) sections for PT 36 and 37 and averaging about 168. Since I have only one month or so left for the August LSAT, I can't take all PTs listed. Which PTs should I choose to get better prepared? I aimed at 170+ for the August LSAT but I can't finised the LG under timed condition right now. Any other general recommendations would be also helpful!

Hi everyone! I've been practicing for the lsat flex style test by not doing one of the LR sections when doing pt but as a result it is a bit difficult to determine my analytics. Does anyone know if it is possible to convert analytics to reflect that I was just skipping one of the LR sections instead of missing them due to errors that need analysis?

Hey guys! I stumbled on a sample PT for LSAT India, which is separate test for Indian Law schools. The LR is the same so you guys can use it for drilling or timed sections. The RC and LG are slightly different. Its shorter and has 4 Ac's instead of the standard 5 but I'm sure extra prep material can never hurt!

https://www.discoverlaw.in/wm_prep_test_india_3.pdf

Is there a way for me to convert the practice tests on this site to Flex? For example, where I only take the 3 sections timed and then receive would be a Flex score? Or is my only option to take the full practice test and then convert the score?

Would someone thinking about October want to trade messages on here on Post-CC work and PTs? I'd really appreciate it.

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Sometime recently there was an option to sign up for discounted versions of the legal topics courses. The first one was called Real Property or something. Are there any upcoming opportunities to subscribe? If so, what is the cost?

I couldn't find a posting on this, so out of curiosity,

I have a bunch of Kaplan PTs downloaded from the internet. Are they different from the official published LSAT PTs?

How many official ones are there? Where can you find all of the official ones? And are there other organizations that publish more/other/different PTs?

Cheers!

Hi! I’m almost done with the LR & LG curriculum. I have one lesson to go and then I’ll be at the RC part of the CC. I’m wondering if anyone has guidance on what to do next: should I spend the next ten days just working on drilling RC, or should I just start taking full timed PTs now and review/study RC as I go? I’m taking the test in October so I was planning on spending 2 months taking PTs and reviewing my weaknesses.

First, I just want to apologize for any grammar, spelling errors in advance. Just typing this post before I continue working on my thesis.

The purpose of this is to help students who have full-proofed LG and are continuously swinging between 0-2 in LG sections to finally get to the -0 level continously. Personally, I full-proofed 30-50 series. As I started moving between PT 50-62, my first try on each new logic game section was not -0. It took me a long time to reflect on this and I noted a few things that I wanted to share with the community. Hope this helps!

Obviously the pros of full-proofing is that it makes your knowledge of each game type sound and gives you the experience of dealing with a variety of games. However, the cons is that it leads you to this level of comfortability that can be problematic because sometimes being comfortable means that you are not being critical or conscious of your approach. To break out of this, I tried to be more critical in my BR by following these four criteria.

i. Rules: Did I represent the rule as visually as possible? If not, why? What language in my rules can trigger me to make me represent my rule more visually?

ii. Connecting Rules: Did I connect all my rules together? If so, why not? How are you going to avoid this mistake in a real time? Develop a system for this and put it into practice.

iii. Inferences: Did you make as many inferences upfront as possible? What inferences did I not make? How did the game rules/board hide them? What sort of inference was it - sequencing, not both rule, etc..

iiii. Try to do above three steps by yourself. Your last resort is JYs explanation.

Hold yourself to this! If your scoring between -0 to -2, then guess what: your LG knowledge is solid. You just got to push and trust yourself more. Eventually this will payoff in your first LG section takes in the future.

Substitution Rule: It is Not as Bad it Seems

Yup - its really not that bad. Something I try to do is that in a game in which sub question is mentioned, ask yourself how many different ways could you re-word any of the rules in that game. Then, try to re-word them and see if they still hold the game together. This is a grueling process, but after 3 games or so, I think this question type is something you can have down in your pocket.

Killer Abstract Games: Using the Pivot

The gruesome 4/5 star games that have only two rules (or a max of 3) which are so abstract. Now, many of these games have a pivot. For example, PT 38 game 3 or PT 60 game 3. The pivot is that a game element will be locked in one spot. Guess what, that's your leading rule. Let this rule dictate each question approach.

4) The Gazillion Rule Game (Really any game with 5+ rules): Connecting the Rules is the Key

Any time you get a game and you see that there are 5+ rules, it should always trigger to you that things are going to connect up nicely. However, the difficult part is to connect them up and when you do that the difficulty of the game is defeated. Notice, many a times these games have two broader game elements - for example, sequencing game with a grouping game, or an in/out sequencing game. Don't approach the questions until you really really really push hard to connect the rules in order to make all the inferences. Two prime examples of this are game 2 & 3 in PT 62, or I believe the in/out dinosaur game from the late 50s.

5) The MBT Question Inference - which one of the following MBT? .... How to use this?

I think of this question as if its a rule to the game that was unstated. For example, you are working on a sequencing game and the second question of the game is which one of the following MBT? Now, you try to answer this by trying to go through the inferences and game rules that you have but of no luck. Then you brute force yourself through the ACs and you find the right answer. Guess what - the right AC should be immediately either visually adopted to the game boards or written down beside the game rules. This question is like a small cookie crumb that the LSAT writers leave for us. After you complete a game like such, ask yourself how come I did not make this inference upfront. Figure out why and this to your repertoire.

Hope this advice helps.

Remember - the LSAT is marathon and not a race. Be happy when you get questions wrong and conscious of the factors of why you made those mistakes or were overconfidence in your process. Memorizing the habits and thoughts that lead you to your mistakes will eventually make you catching them in a live session, which will eventually get you to -0.

Hope this helps and DM if you have any questions.

Cheers!

I am 40% complete with the common core and have been laboring over LR for a while now. I jumped into the Logic Games to change things up.

How did you all proceed through the common core and how long did it take for you to finish the curriculum?

I'm at a cross-roads deciding whether I should sing up for the August flex (deadline is today).

Reason being, it's 3 sections, so it's going to be shorter, and it will be at the convenience of my home. There is also score preview.

The drawback is I only have 45 days to study - my work contract just ended so I can spend all day every day.

On the flipside, there is more time to study for the October exam. It may also be FLEX depending on how COVID progresses. Does the score-preview apply for all exams from now on?

What do you guys think? Anyone having similar thoughts?

If I took and canceled the July 2020 LSAT do I count as a first time test taker and qualify for score preview for August?

Have you found that 7Sage's 12 hour length for each practice test is accurate or do they just give a time on the higher end so as not to mislead. I have only done core curriculum lessons so far so I have not given a practice test/blind review a go yet. Bonus question: would anyone recommend interspersing some of the earlier practice tests with the core curriculum, or is it highly recommended to complete CC before taking on all of the tests after June 2007?

Hi,

So I'm new here and I can't seem to navigate the site.

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I'm sorry but this is a bit frustrating. The video I watched did not do much. Is there a way I can take individual sections without starting from the first section in an order. For example, I want to take the LR sections in PT 57 which are the 3rd and 4th. I am unable to do that because it automatically wants me to start with the first section. Please help.

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I hope some of you will find laughter from this plus it's a PSA haha. I took the flex yesterday and LMAOOO just wanted to share with y'all that I didn't know/forgot we could only use number 2 pencils. So when my proctor was like "uhhhhh my guy are those MECHANICAL pencils? sorry they can't be mechanical...do you have any number 2 pencils?" I started to panic and rummaged through my entire house until I found 2 dull ass number 2 pencils. But wait, no sharpener. Only had a knife. It was the first time I ever sharpened a pencil with a knife in my life LOLOL we really hate to see it. The exam wasn't that bad. I usually PT from 167 - 172 (RC is my kryptonite rip) but I was so frazzled so I feel like LR/RC could have been better if my mind was in the right place. Ended up rereading stimuluses and parts of passages just because my angst got the best of me. But during the exam it was one of those moments where I knew if I was in the right headspace I would have complete control of the exam. You feel me? Nothing crazy out of the ordinary. Made some educated guesses on more questions than I would have liked and if the stars align we chillin, if not then rip. It sucks that I paid 200 for what is now essentially a practice exam but hey great learning experience and now I have HELLLAAAAA number 2 pencils and a sharpener for next time. Don't forget your number 2 pencils!!! Who's on this August train with yo'boy??

Like others, I don't know if I performed to expectation on July. I'm pretty sure I killed LG, did okay on LR, but may have bombed RC (that tribes passage...)

My last few PTs before the test were 171, 170, and 175. I'd be happy at this point if I managed to get a mid-high 160 but my brain is giving me a huge possible range of scores from below my diagnostic to possibly around where I was scoring by the end.

I'm really happy with my LG performance since I spent most time working on it throughout my prep (thank you 7sage, Foolproofing Method, & Pacifico's Attack Method). I'm fairly confident I went -0 or -1 unless I missed something important, but I had time to check everything over. But I can't stop thinking about RC since it's always been my most consistent section but for this test I only had a few minutes left at the end of it, and I didn't feel confident about most of my answers from a couple of the passages.

While I'm loathe to give LSAC any more money then it's already taken from me, I'm going to need a fairly high LSAT since I'm a splitter with a horrible GPA (though at least I'd be a mature candidate, so I have that going for me).

What do you guys think? What have you guys done? I've been feeling a little nauseous ever since I finished the July Flex and I can't stop thinking about it.

Hello 7Sagers,

I've been very proactive in my studying and spending 4 hours a day studying every week for the past 6 weeks, but I've been facing a lot of mental challenges. I constantly feel fatigued and tired, but when I see how hard everyone on this forum works; it motivates me to work even harder. Yet, there are days where I can't mentally function and my brain feels so tired, and I feel extremely guilty, if i'm not being productive or doing some type of work. It's getting to a point where I am almost burning out every other week and it has started to take a toll on my social relationships as well. I want to do really well on this test, but at the same time I know the rate I'm going at is extremely unhealthy. I really could use some advice, if anyone could offer me any.

Has anyone doing the course out of order? Like starting with RC instead of LR. If so, what have your results been like?

Hey,

Is there an easy way to add questions to Problem Sets from the Prep Test performance screen after taking a Practice test?

Thanks!

I initially took the 7sage course back in 2019 and scored a 153 and then a 151 in Feb of this year. Would it be worth it to go through the course again in hopes of a 160+? I feel like the last time I ran through most of the material.

Hi everyone,

I am pretty sure this question has been asked on this for in the past so apologies in advance.

I'm taking the flex exam on the 17th. I read somewhere that I just have to submit the writing sample before scores are released for the July exam. Can anyone please confirm if this is true? I couldn't find where on LSAC's webpage this "due date" was mentioned. :(