I'm confused. I took the June 2007 PT on paper. Now, do I input my answers into 7sage to get the raw score? Or just stop, do the blind review, then input the answers I got on the blind review? I'm just lost as to where we input both our raw scores and our blind review scores. #help

Hello! As we all navigate through these temporary changes to the LSAT during this unprecedented time, I'm struggling to find ways to make my PTs as close to the real LSAT Flex. I'm hoping to get some tips and suggestions on how people are currently formatting their PTs. My biggest hurdle is figuring out how to translate my raw score to the LSAT scale. I thought about doubling my LR, but that doesn't seem like an accurate way to predict my score. I look forward to hearing from everyone. Thank you!

Hello everyone!

So I have been studying on and off for a bit over a year now. Finally took the plunge and got 7Sage in Oct 2019 (life-changer) but got terribly ill from Nov to Dec (with what I believe was coronavirus, but that is besides the point) and halted my studying during this time. So I feel like I have mainly only been studying since Jan 2020. I work full-time, and now that this pandemic has us all quarantined, I am finding it really difficult to focus on studying with all the commotion in my house. I was going right to either the library or Starbucks everyday after work and that was working for me. Also headed to Starbucks on the weekends typically in the early afternoon, about 3 hours each time (after that my brain gets fried). I was also reading some other discussions on here, and thinking maybe I should try studying in the morning before work.

Another problem I am having is I am only 30% through the CC, still on LR, and I have not studied LG or RC in a whiiile... Do you guys think I should just skip the rest of LR and move to one of the other sections? I just feel weird skipping because I know I will want to return back to the LR question types. What do you think is the best strategy?

Lastly, I was planning on taking the July and August 2020 exams originally, but switched it to be August and Sept when I noticed my studying was slacking since I cannot focus. And now I saw that LSAC removed the Sept LSAT, so I am back to feeling like I should be taking July and Aug. (Aug just in case I do not feel I did well on July.) I really do not want to feel the need to push my second test to Oct 2020 because I know this will delay me starting my applications. I do not plan to start them until after LSAT is done. What do you all think? Any advice you can give is greatly appreciated!

Just emailed about LSAC Flex and if it impacts the retake limit. This was my response

Hi Albert,

Thank you for contacting LSAC. The flex test will go towards the test taking limit.

In regards to the new Test Taking Limit policy, starting with the September 2019 LSAT administration, test takers will be permitted to take the exam:

• Three times in a single testing year (the testing year goes from June 1 to May 31).

• Five times within the current and past five testing years (the period in which LSAC reports scores to law schools).

• A total of seven times over a lifetime.

Please note that this policy is forward-looking, not retroactive. As such, test taken prior to September 2019 will not count against these numerical limits.

Uhh nothing about like a fourth time?

Does anyone have any more official information from anywhere?

Hey everyone!

What are your thoughts when deciding what PT to take? Do you think it's better to take tests that are closer to 2020 than say 1998?

Any suggestions would be helpful! thank you.

Hi everyone, I scored a 148 on my LSAT last year, and I struggle with logical reasoning... if you've used the loophole logical reasoning, was it worth it?

First 2 minutes of PT 77.3.3. Thank you Sir.

Hi everyone. For the past ten to fifteen PTs, I've been scoring around low-mid 170s and blind reviewing anywhere from 176-180. I recently started getting into the 80+ PT range and have taken three 80+ PTs so far. For the first two PTs (80 and 85), my score dropped to 168 and 169 respectively.

I feel like the RC has become longer and harder even with structural understanding of the passage. As for the LR, I found out that it was wordier with newer hidden tricks in the density of the stimulus.

Is there something that I can drill to address these new changes that I have perceived to be causing issues for me? Thank you.

Hi all,

I would love a friend who had a similar diagnostic who is trying for a 170s score. I'm only a few units into the core curriculum. Anyone interested?

I have trouble sleeping days before big exams. Even now im starting to feel my sleep affected a bit from just general stress from the LSAT.

Would you recommend pulling an all nighter or just getting like 2-3 hours of sleep 2 days before the LSAT? That way, the night before the LSAT i can ensure Ill fall asleep cause ill be so tired from the night before.

Ive heard so many horror stories of people not getting good enough sleep the night before the LSAT and I want to make sure that doesnt happen.

Generally, I sleep fine but would like to take all precautions possible. What are downsides/upsides? personally, since you shouldnt be cramming 2 days before anyway I dont see a huge problem with like pulling an all nighter 2 nights before and then getting like 8-10 solid hours of sleep the night before?

Hey guys,

I need help with LR Flaw question in particular. Each LR Section, I miss on average 2-3 flaw questions and it is really hurting my score. I know that these are the quickest points you can make up for in LR since supposedly, once you see the patterns, "you can see them coming a mile away".

How do I get better at them? Is it just a matter of constantly seeing them over and over? I have made a problem set through 7Sage on just the Flaw questions PT 60+ and it generated about 240 Flaw questions. Just going down the list and reading all of them, will that help? I don't have much time. I have 3 weeks.

Appreciate you.

I know that growth isn't linear and that I can't expect each PT to be better than the last, but I certainly hadn't expected that they would progressively get worse...

My first PT out of the CC was a 167, which was a very encouraging 12pt improvement from my diagnostic, but since that PT each one has been a bit worse than the last and I'm finally all the way back down in the high 150s. Does any one else struggle with their PT vs. BR score widening? How do I review my PTs effectively to close that gap?

I was planning on taking the test in June, but it's becoming clear to me that I am not prepared to take it.

Any and all advice would be much appreciated.

Lost and confused,

Sarah.

Has anyone heard if the 3 take limit is impacted by LSAT Flex?

Just throwing this out there--yes, it's definitely true that security measures must be observed and we’re in unusual, emergency circumstances with a pandemic and it's great that there's a remote option now. That said, because the proctoring program already uses video and audio recording--which they save under live real-time observation, is eye-tracking really necessary? It just seems to be a bit much. What if someone’s eyes drift as they ponder a question or they look away to rest their eyes? Will these normal behaviors be flagged? Is there any way students can opt out of some of this? And how will students’ personal information be used? It seems that more transparency is needed. What are your thoughts?

Is there anywhere where I can find definitions or descriptions of these grouping game categories? These four are categorized by 7sage but I've gone through the CC & I can't find any description.

Grouping pure:

Grouping sequence:

Grouping repeating:

Grouping - Interchangeable:

Example for grouping repeating games: I know that I will have to group items and those items are repeating. Hence, using a chart will be most helpful.

I would like to know the communities thoughts on how to study for upcoming flex tests. My thought is that it no longer makes sense to take standard full length PT's if you are planning on taking a flex test. Would taking three sections instead of five be advisable? Obviously it cannot hurt to do more questions - but as JY has mentioned many times - the goal of PT's is to recreate test day conditions...

I heard that the LSAT makers are going to remove Logic Games sometime in the near future is that true and what do they plan on replacing it with? (All I gotta say is I hope they don't get rid of it, Logic Games is my best and favorite section - sorry to those that hate it, but I think they're kinda fun, it's like a puzzle).

For me, if I am really focus, I do 1.4. 1.2 when I am so so focus. 😂

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Announcement from LSAC:

I am getting through the CC and wondering how I should attack the practice tests starting from PT37 and up. Is it plausible and yet effective to take all those tests or should I take one a week considering that I have at least four per week? I was thinking at least one a week and BR+Review as well as review all of those I don’t take in timed conditions. Any advice?

How will having 3 sections affect the scoring? Is there a way to recalculate what the score of my PT tests would have been if it was an LSAT flex? If LR is my strength should I consider pushing back the test date until it is in-person 4 sections again?

For those who watched today's LSAC webinar: did you get the impression that the 2021 cycle be more competitive than previous cycles?

Hey guys. I plan on taking the November 15th LSAT this year. My diagnostic was pretty bad (140). I was pretty devastated considering that I have a 3.9+ GPA in undergrad currently. I want to get into the 160s and go to a T-25 law school. Is jumping from140 to the160s possible given the amount of time I have? I have a little over 6 months.

And what's a good way to prepare? I plan on using full proof from JY for LG and going through the LG Bible. But what about LR and RC?

Alright all your future lawyers, let's have a bit of debate. I wanna hear people's opinions on writing vs not writing the online administered June LSAT (3 sections vs 5). I'm personally on the fence and want to hear what other people think and the pros and cons of the situation