I've been having a hard time trying to reach 160. I do blind review, but I think I probably do it wrong. I think I may need more drilling and probably focus on my basics while blind reviewing.

Hi all,

I'm in a phase during my LSAT journey where my BR score is consistently near-perfect, but my regular score is much lower. I understand the questions and I know how to do them, but I just can't do them correctly fast enough. I find that even during BR, very few questions give me trouble and I end up seeing the right AC with just a LITTLE bit of more time than during the original, timed run. But a combination of me not being fast enough plus getting super stuck/anxious when I have a time limit leads me to select wrong ACs.

Essentially what I'm asking is, how valuable is the BR score in terms of predicting long-term LSAT results? Does it actually indicate my potential? I would be super happy if the answer to that were a yes, but of course, I'm not really trying to make myself feel good here, so I would appreciate your brutally honest responses.

Thanks a bunch!

Hello Everyone,

This will be my second time attempting the lsat, the first time I did it on paper with pencil and eraser, classic way

Now I saw on the lsac website that they will be imposing the digital lsat to almost everyone.

This is making a bit anxious, about how I should study and practice now, since i cant use paper anymore, I have to get used to tablets and I dont do really well with these things

Has anyone taken the digital lsat, any insight to share?

Do we have the choice btw digital and paper?

Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I am just deciding when to write the LSAT again, and I do have the opportunity to study full-time from the second week of April until August 29th, but I am just concerned that this is not enough time for me and I will have to rewrite again. Having to rewrite scares me since I still have a few courses left to graduate for the 2020/2021 academic year. I can register for only one course for my first term next year to give myself enough time for applications and rewrite, but theres this fear that I will burn out and not be able to focus on school, the LSAT, and applications at the same time. For me applying next September will be ideal because the few courses remaining for me are very difficult and are likely to lower my GPA and if I apply in September, most Canadian schools will not take those remaining courses into account to give me an offer.

I wrote the July 2019 exam and got a 150 which I cancelled. I studied full-time for two and a half before the exam, mostly going through the CC and I only had the chance to complete 2 PTs before the exam. My diagnostic was a 137, so I already improved 13 points, but, I have not the chance to look at the LSAT since October 2019. Do you have a study schedule that you followed to improve at least 15 points? I need at least a165 for my top school (UBC Law).

The other option would be for me to do summer school and wrap up my courses by December 2020 and then study 6-7 months for the LSAT. However, I would have to delay a cycle and start law school at 24 instead of 23 which I am not very fond of.

I would really appreciate it if you can share some of your study strategies and opinion on when I should write the LSAT. I know that I have a long road ahead of me, but I am willing to work hard to not go to a different school. Also, I would love to talk to someone who is currently studying at Allard Hall.

Thank you in advance.

Hi.

Thank you so much for delivering 7 sage promise of successfully uploading the explanation videos regarding nov.2019 Lsat. Judging from uploading hours, I could see that JY and the the team worked until late in the date. Which I know and appreciate.the Video uploaded was a good help for my Feb 2020 Lsat

Hi all,

It’s taken a few weeks for the news to settle in, but just wanted to share this wonderful piece of news. A few weeks ago, I learned that I got accepted to Columbia on a full tuition Hamilton scholarship!!

I never imagined such a possibility before I submitted my apps and I certainly never thought I’d get into a school like Columbia when I began my journey here at 7sage but here I am with this awesome piece of news and I am so grateful for all the help I got along the way from this community

Special shoutout to @"Lucas Carter" @"Cant Get Right" Rav, Alex Divine and many more

Most importantly, I’m sharing because I know many of you are right where I was at one point in my prep: dreading the score result of your PT after your Blind Review, reading another success story and wondering when your turn will come, wondering whether this journey is going to turn out the way you hope, fearing if you’ll ever get LG, etc etc

I just want to share some encouragement here: keep going! It’s totally worth it!

For perspective:

I invested about $5000 total on LSAT prep (programs/books/tutors/travel/lodging)

With this Columbia scholarship alone ($200,000 plus) I’ve effectively made a 4000% return. I get to attend a T6 tuition free!

So if you’re deliberating about whether or not to get a tutor, whether you should spend that extra $X to stay the night in a hotel before your LSAT instead of getting up an hour earlier to drive, ultimate+ or starter? reflect on the long term returns. Treat your LSAT prep as a long term investment!

If anyone is interested in learning about my journey, I’ve shared tips and advise in the past (check my post history)

If I can sum it all here, I’d say: worry about getting good before getting fast

And:

TRUST THE PROCESS

7sage and this community is all you need!

Best of luck everyone and feel free to PM me anytime!

I am looking for a tutor - not so much to help me with specific concepts but rather to help me with planning/ designing a concrete study plan to conquer my problem areas and advance given the time I have to study. I have finished the CC and know which areas I need to work on. However, when I sit down to study, I often jump from one task to another. This makes me easily become overwhelmed, de-motivated and unsure of how to proceed.

I want to write the test in July. I have more availability since I quit full time work but unsure how to structure my days and what I should get through before the test date.

Does any one have recommendations for a tutor to help with this? or are you a tutor who can help with creating plan with me?

Also, struggling with finances so hoping for a cheaper session if possible but open to hearing rates.

Let me know!

Appreciate it all the help.

Hey guys,

Some advice would be appreciated on how to approach studying for this test. I would like to take the July LSAT 2020 although I work a very hectic schedule due to a pretty demanding job in big law. Any advice as to what works and/or worked for you is greatly appreciated.

thanks!

Does anybody know which PT's the core curriculum uses for the logical reasoning questions? ( Only the questions with the videos and not the problem sets) I also wanted to know if it used all the questions from those exams or just individual ones.

I perused through them and it seems like PT's 30-35 but I wasn't quite sure. I'm trying to budget my "untouched" exams and was curious how I should best use the early 30's. I'm aware I can manually just check but I wasn't sure if this was public knowledge already as it would save me a lot of time.

I'd appreciate any insight!

Happy studying fellow Jedi

I'm currently registered to take the March 2020 test, and I wanted to move my date to take the June test. I checked the LSAC site, and the deadline for changing dates is tomorrow (02/27/2020), but I'm unable to click on the June test to switch to. Does anyone know what I can do?

Reddit, Lawstudents.ca, top-law-schools, etc have generally negative advice and comments for people seeking help. Such as "you can never improve from a 130, might as well just quit".

Glad to have found 7Sage the best forum and community of all!

Wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this?

Hey guys, I've been drilling timed sections for PTs in the 20s as I heard a lot of their games are useful. I noticed that I've been getting more questions incorrect in the LR sections (by a margin of 1/2 more than my usual score). This hasn't really affected my overall score of the test given the generous curves in the 20s, but I'm a little concerned about the trend I've been seeing. Somehow I find the newer LRs to be less challenging... all in all just a little disheartened. Any opinions on what you thought of the difficulty of LR / other sections in the 20s? Any specific ways you guys attacked them during review? Any insight would be appreciated!

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The videos won’t load on my phone like they used to. Need advice

And if they do:

When will they send a retest notification?

Format?

Hi everyone! I've taken 3 months break form studying after writing my first LSAT in November. I completed and submitted my application to two schools in January and I'm currently waiting for the decision. But my LSAT score (160) is not as competitive as I hoped it'd be so if I don't get accepted, I want to improve my LSAT score and reapply this cycle. As I'm waiting for the decision, I want to get the ball rolling! What are your process / tips / strategies go get back into study mode after a long break?

Before writing in November, I studied for about 8 months, working full-time. I've completed 7Sage CC, PT 31-40 for drills, and 7 PTs randomly selected from PT65-88. I've also read through LSAT Trainer last March when I started studying, and The Loophole 3 weeks before the exam.

It honestly feels like a decade ago now and I'm not sure if I should just start from the scratch (i.e. re-doing CC). My realistic goal is to hit 165-169. I'm planning to quit my job in May to focus on studying LSAT, if I get denied. And right now, I'm thinking of writing for October / November LSAT, given my personal trips & circumstances. Thank you so much in advance!

I am kind of an early person, however, I sometimes do feel that I need to take a short nap after lunch.

Perhaps that is because I wake up too early and have worked several hours in the morning.

Any suggestion/advice? Thank you! :)

Hi,

I just signed up. I started my course but all I dose is notes I can’t hear the instructor can anyone shed some light?

For LR, do you read the stimulus first, or the question stem first? Please explain why.

There seems to be disagreement on this topic across reputable LSAT test prep companies.

Thanks for your insights!

Hello! I have been working on the syllabus but have noticed I don't feel as though I am making great leaps and bounds of success on the topic.. in fact I feel as though I am maintaining or slightly decreasing in skill level...should I go back and redo some problems or just keep chugging forward, going back to review the last month or so?

Hello!!

Excited to be at this stage. This is a long one.

21 Point Increase LSAT Journey Overview

After taking my first diagnostic test with Khan Academy and receiving a 148 I knew I had to get serious about studying. The internet seemed to have many positive things to say about 7sage. I was really into the growth mindset that the program advocates and the blind review process just seemed to make so much sense for me as a tool for learning. So happy I was right!!

Overall the study process took me one year - started in February 2019 and received my 169 score on the January 2020 test. That being said I took about 4 months off for travel/work related/life reasons. When I was studying I averaged 10-20 hours a week. Less if I had other things going on (it's okay to have balance and take breaks). I found myself refreshed and never noticed my skills sliding back after a break which was very encouraging - burn out is so real!!

In one of the 7sage podcast episodes JY suggested that once you are scoring where you want to it might be helpful to sign up for 2 LSATs back to back. It takes the pressure off both takes. I knew the January LSAT was the last one accepted for Canadian law schools and had plateaued in the mid-high 160s (did not need to do better than that to get into good schools here) so I signed up for November 2019 and January 2020.

November 2019 164 Experience

These last 2 points you really cannot control and I think that's the benefit of doing 2 takes. I was so much more ready to let go of the things I could not control because I knew I had another shot.

164: I knew I could probably get into most schools I applied to so I was happy to have this score under my belt. Knowing I had a score that could get me in was a huge boost. However I knew I could do better and was very excited to have the opportunity.

164-169 in 6 weeks

LR Took 2 weeks after reading The Loophole and my November take to really do nothing but the exercises advocated in the book. Really went back to the basics and restructured how I thought about LR. I melded the 7sage and Loophole approach in a way that worked for me. My issue was always focus and timing so the basic translation and advanced translation drills did wonders for me. Little things like not reading the question first made me focus more intently on the argument. After doing these painstaking drills for 2 weeks straight I found myself anticipating answers and being much more efficient. I created an LR problem set that was ALL THE LR questions I had ever gotten wrong during a PT and did the advanced translation drill on that too.

LG Honestly just kept on with ol' faithful: foolproof method. I love it.

RC I did not really focus on RC that much during this time (maybe if I did I would have broke 170.. who knows!) apart from PT and BRing as usual. However I think basic translation drills helped with RC as well .. my issues with RC was getting flustered and losing focus.

After my 2 week Loophole intensive (while doing 2 games a day) I started back on my PT/BR cycle with the purpose of focusing on timing strategy and not score. This is when I hit my first 170. It was a happy day.

Then the holidays hit and I 100% took 2.5 weeks off to see friends and family. So glad I did. Did one more PT/BR - really took it easy and just like that it was Jan 2020 take time.

January 2020 169 Experience

169: I am so happy with my score. Do I think I could do better? Absolutely. If 7sage has taught me anything it's that there is alway room for growth. That being said I am so happy to be ending my LSAT journey here and shifting my focus to admissions.

Takeaways

*I truly think doing these 2 things earlier would have helped me do better sooner

Best resources (imho): 7sage and The Loophole

Best mindset throughout the journey: know you are capable, know your score does not define your worth/potential, take breaks, have balance, do not let this test take over your life!! And try to enjoy the process.

Thanks all!!

EDIT: 2 important things I forgot

So I studied on and off for couple of months then decided to stop to focus on my university studies. I will graduate in May so I will start studying then. But I wanna go on a vacation for 3 weeks on the end of June. So i plan to study for 2 months from Maya-June then take a break and come back and study till October and take the test. Should I do this?

It's been a rough couple months, as I've received several rejections from other top schools, but luckily I was just accepted into my top choice. Thank you 7sage for providing such a supportive community. I can't imagine getting through this without you guys!

I took the Jan LSAT and only got a 160 when I was consistently ptesting at 167 range. I'm fool proofed at LG. I am switching up my study methods to read The Loophole. Hopefully that will improve my LR.

I plan my study schedule, once I'm done with The Loophole, to be:

Monday: 2 LR /BR

Tuesday: Review /2 LG

Wednesday: 2 LC /BR

Thursday: Review /2 LG

Friday: Review question type specific

Saturday: Full PT and BR

Sunday: Break

What do you think about my approach? I am still aiming for 170+.

I have a dilemma and am very torn on what I should do. As a background, I graduated with my bachelors in Spring of 2016 and have been working as a territory manager for a large company ever since. I make good money now, but know this is not a job or career I want to continue in. I have taken the LSAT twice now and increased my second score 6 points from the first and still do not feel as though I have plateaued or fully utilized the best methods in my past studies. Working full time makes it difficult to get all I want out of studying and creates a rigorous schedule. I am working full time and trying to get as much studying in as I can, but often feel burnt out.

My current schedule goes something like this:

Mon-Fri Work: 8am-430pm, Workout: 430 - 530pm, Study: 6pm - 9/10pm, Sleep: 10/11pm - 6am.

Sat/Sun Study: 4-5 hours.

I am basically trying to get as much studying in as I can while working full time but this schedule is monotonous and I often feel like a zombie with no free time or recalibration/relaxation time.

I am wondering if I should quit my job and focus on studying full time to get the most out of my potential LSAT score? I think this would be beneficial but am hesitant about leaving my company. With that being said, what is the trade off for a higher LSAT score and me leaving my job? Would admissions committees look down on my quitting my sales job and being unemployed to study full time? Is having a solid career on your resume for law school applications of any benefit? Does working and studying full time come off as more impactful, or a higher LSAT score while being unemployed? These are the reservations and questions that I have been battling, money is not the issue for me, I have a decent savings I could live off until I started law school.

If anyone has had this experience or has any advice at all, please share! I am open to any opinions or feedback at this point. PLEASE HELP!