Hi,

With the February exam ahead, I wonder where the dummy section appears. Does it appear in the first three or last two sections? Thanks in advance.

Hey folks,

I'll be taking the Feb 22nd LSAT which is just in a few days and I've been wondering how i should be preparing for it. I've been doing PT's for the past two months (3 a week) and despite seeing some improvement, there is still room to grow. Obviously, i'm not asking for a 'miracle' study guide. I'm more concerned with whether I should do one more PT before the exam or work on areas that need improvement through drilling.

After doing many PTs, i can tell my biggest obstacle is the RC section. Hands down, if it's possible to get better in the next couple of days through intensive RC drilling, that would boost my score by a couple of points minimum.

My question is: Do you recommend I doing one last PT, or drill questions/sections that need improvement? If you think the latter is the best option, what advice can you give me for getting better at the RC section in particular within a few days?

Thanks in advance!

James

Can someone confirm the correct way to diagram the word "implies". For example, how would we diagram "X" implies "Y" and "Z"?

Is the below correct?:

X --> Y and Z

Thanks all.

It says that Ultimate gives me 9 months of access to the course, however it says in my account settings that my course expires June 1st. which is about 12 months after I purchased. So when will I not be able to access paid materials anymore?

Hello,

I am behind my schedule due to the difficulty of lsat test and limited time i have every day. I am on the week 5 of 7sage program right now and I would like to get some advice for studying effectively.

I see that 7sage starts practice tests from 1997 (1 test) and further 2001 (1test as well) in the Study Schedule. However, there are so many tests beginning from 1991. When it is the best time to do these tests starting from 1991?

Is it effective to start practice tests alongside with learning basics of each section, or better to do it after learning all the theory?

Thank you

Hi All,

I'm two weeks into the CC 7sage Premium course. Whilst, I am finding it very helpful, I understand that the arduous exercises assumes a level of time not everyone has. I am sitting an LSAT at the end of March and I know I may only get through the CC with a week to spare.

Hence, would it be best for my improvement to just start taking PTs alongside the CC work now?

There is another LSAT at the end of June that I may take, however, the underlying issue here is that I just won't be sure where I'm at bc I am not doing PTs or at least timed sections.

For context, I am currently taking gap year, I finished my Bachelor's last year and did a lot of things out side of study (except for go overseas) so I am hoping to spend at least 3 months overseas this year so I can come back refreshed for Law - which I expect to be difficult.

Cheers,

Conor

Hi, guys,

I am having a problem with the time to answer the questions. I started a month ago and it takes me from 2.30-6 min to answer a question. I heard that it is ok for the beginning but still want to get some advice, is it a correct and most effective way, start with longer time and later (i don't know when) try to cut the time? Any advice appreciated. Thank you.

This March 30th will be my third attempt at the LSAT. My previous attempt saw no raise in my previous score. Even though i thought that i studied a fair bit throughout the summer plus throughout the closing months of the year. My main focus over the summer was logic games, but then when the test came around i got 1 logic game section and 3 LR sections. The previous test that i took was the November test and before that the test i took was October almost a year before.

Right now my main focus is everything. There are about 40 Days until the test and im still not confident. In hardly any section. I do the timed sections of LR, ive just adapted the circle method and going through the whole section over again trying to make sure i have every answer right but i seem to be falling for the same traps.

I feel as if once i hit question 14 of every LR section i get 3/4 of the questions wrong from there on out. I am struggling to get 15/25 correct on these LR sections. Even when i double down and think that my answer was the correct answer most of the time im wrong, especially past question 13 or 14. Its really killing my confidence.

I'm genuinely scared of whats to come, i wanted to start Law School this September as i graduated undergrad this past semester.

How long are people studying per day, I have been doing 3-4 hours a day, but the lack of improvement is getting in my head.

Should i just keep brute forcing these LR sections doing the circle method or the blind review method i think he calls it and hopefully get better? How often do you guys take full tests and how many should i be doing.

I just want to get into a groove where i can take a practice test or two a week and be happy with my score.

So the title's a bit of an exaggeration, but in a funny ironic way learning logic games actually did serve to better my marriage and family life. I'm a non-traditional student with a 1 year old, a pregnant wife with another on the way in May (yay us!) and I'm trying to balance full-time work + 20 hours of studying a week + "us time" + her time + me time + family time. Whew!!! What the heck have I gotten myself into...

My spouse and I are trying to figure out how to fit all these needs into certain time slots and I think wait: we have 5 things we need to fit into 8 hours on Saturday and Sunday? SOUNDS LIKE A GROUPING GAME!!!! She shakes her head and laughs at the nerdiness. But alas!! We write out the 8 hour time slots we have Saturday and Sunday to fit in time for her, time for me, time for us, time for family and time for studying (5 game pieces) into 8 hours over 2 days. She gets 2 hours (block of 2), I get 1 floating hour (floater), and "us time" has to be either Saturday evening or Sunday morning (but not both). Family time is a floating 2 hour block and if I study Saturday, I don't study Sunday (what's the contrapositive? Sunday -> /Sat). And it worked!!!! Tah-dah, we fit everyone's needs into a small time-frame and we can make adjustments easily due to the gameboard we made. Nerdiness for the win.

So this is pretty funny in that I'm applying what I've learned from Logic Games to real life, but I've actually learned a lot from studying for this test. I'm really thankful for what I've learned on this journey and I'm thankful I've gotten to learn from y'all on the forums and in person!!!!!!!

Best of luck to all of us.

Mark

Hello everyone, I just wanted some advice on score fluctuations. So I have an average PT score of 162, and I never really go below that. But on some days I'll suddenly spike up to 167/168 seemingly out of nowhere. What's even stranger is on the days where I feel the least confident and feel unfocused during the test are the days I score the highest. Does anyone have any idea why this is or maybe has had experience with this themselves? I would like to consistently score at these high scores instead of just having random bursts.

Thank you for your time.

How many highlight color options are available on the real digital lsat? Pink, Yellow, Orange? Thanks.

For anyone that scored higher on test day than average PT, or even just average PT score, can you give tips or just general advice besides the "dont get nervous?"

Prevailing notion is youll score 2-3 points below, but for those that dont, i think advice would be greatly appreciated for us about to soon take the LSAT

For those that retake, how should you pick a section to retake? For example, if you wanna do an LR section, which retake should you do? I assume something farther back so you dont necessarily just remember the answer right away?

Maybe some of the harder sections?

Hey everyone! So I started 7Sage almost a months ago. My syllabus requires me to complete 15-20 hours of studying per week. When I first saw this, I thought it was a manageable study goal. However, I fell behind on this schedule and now I'm having trouble getting back on track. I'm about 2 weeks behind on my study schedule even though I've been studying for several hours everyday. The thing is that even though a curriculum may be 3 hours long, or I plan to complete 2 hours of it, I will usually spend longer hours studying a particular concept just to understand it. I've quickly come to learn that just because a curriculum is 5 hours long, doesn't mean I will comprehend it in 5 hours. For this reason, I have fallen behind. I'm aiming to take the LSAT in July. I know that this is many months away, but I still don't want to fall behind on the core curriculum.

Has this happened to any of you? if so, what do you do to prevent falling behind and/or to catch up? Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone. I took the January test and got a 157. After much consideration, I have decided to retake the test in October. My target score is somewhere between the mid 160s and 170. Is there a chance that I could improve my score significantly if I study 2hrs on weekdays and for about 6hrs on weekends?

Tell me if this scenario sounds familiar. You are humming along in a Logical Reasoning question. You think AC D might be the right answer choice and then you get to AC E and it looks equally as promising. You furl your brow and try to decide which one of them is correct but you are drawing blanks. 5 seconds turns to 10, and all of a sudden a spike of anxiety hits. You are sure AC’s A, B and C are non contenders but for the life of you, you just cannot decide between D and E. You’re down to two, what do you do? (D2TWYD?)

I would say this happens to a lot of us as we progress through our LSAT Journey. Often times people on forums or group chats even mention this directly when they are seeking advice on how to improve their LR Scores. They will offer some variant of the following statement: “I’m often stuck between 2 answer choices and I tend to pick the wrong one” as a reason for their lack of improvement. I’m writing this post for the many people who find themselves in this situation. I want to outline some strategies on how to maximize your chances of getting the right answer.

One Unique Correct Answer:

Say you are in your school library, trying to study for the LSAT when all of a sudden you hear a little squeak. You look at the floor and you spot a rat trying to eat your backpack. As the good conscientious student that you are, you grab a piece of your lunch and you lure the rat outside of the library where it can be free to harass the annoying philosophy majors sitting outside staring at clouds. Taken in isolation, what you did here is a good thing. You found a rat, and you dealt with it. But if this happens 5 or 10 times,you’ve got real issues. Your library is infested with rats and you probably contracted the bubonic plague. Compare that to D2TWYD? The two scenarios share a similarity in that dealing with one or two may be fine, but dealing with them consistently is a symptom of major foundational problems.

There is one unique correct answer to every LR question on the LSAT. So, if you tell me there here are 2 equally tempting answer choices, that tells me that your understanding of the question and stimulus is severely lacking. The best way to deal with D2TWYD is to NOT put yourself in this situation to begin with. If you find yourself consistently here what you may want to do is to devote extra time to studying the stimulus, coming up with potential pre-phrases ( this is your best attempt at trying to come up with a plausible solution to the question ) before you head to the Answer Choices. I understand the temptation, the answer choices are where the points are after all. Why wouldn’t you want to tackle them right away? The issue is, if you haven’t fully analyzed the stimulus in your head and digested all the implications then you are basically doing a POE exercise. POE is always your last resort, it is not an efficient use of time and can lead you to being seduced by attractive wrong answer choices. Take the time to study and fully understand the stimulus before proceeding to the answer choices, an extra 15-20 seconds spent upfront can save your minutes of pain down the road.

Down to two, what do I not do?

Despite our best efforts we will occasionally still find ourselves in the precarious position of having to choose between 2 equally temping answer choices. Before we tackle the specific strategies, I think it is wise to go over something we should not do. If you are DT2WYD what you SHOULD NOT DO is get inside your own head. What do I mean by this? You shouldn’t spend too much time THINKING OF REASONS about which answer choice is right. Instead if you are unsure you should be SEARCHING FOR EVIDENCE to back up either of the two answer choices. The correct answer choice is not going to reveal itself in your brain . The key to finding the right answer lies either in the STIMULUS or through dedicated and specific analysis of the ANSWER CHOICES. Retreating into your own head will result in precious seconds lost, and these losses are insidious because unless you video record yourself doing the PT chances are you may even not even notice you did it. If you do this enough times over the course of a section, 15 seconds here, 20 seconds there, the rats start to pile up and all of sudden you are completing one or two questions less per section. If you are down to 2 answer choices, what you don’t do is just mindlessly think of a reason why one or the other is correct…I want you to be actively searching for evidence to support an answer choice!

So what DO I do?

Now that we’ve gone over what you shouldn’t do let's talk about what we should be doing. There are generally two reasons why you are DT2WYD? The first is you’ve not fully understood the stimulus or one of the answer choices. Either you rushed through the stimulus and missed something or this is a curve breaker question and the stimulus and answer choices are intentionally misleading. Regardless of which scenario you find yourself in, you will have two choices at this point. You can realize your predicament and skip the question (which if you read my last post in this series you know I always support) or you can take this as a sign that you should go ahead and re-read the stimulus to see what you’ve missed. If you decide to take the 2nd option you should have a general idea of what to look for. Here’s a list that may help if you don’t.

If there is a conclusion focus on how the conclusion and the premises are related to each other.

Often times the gap between the premise and conclusion is the key to unlocking the correct answer choice. Look for key modifier words that you may have missed that changes the meeting of a premise or conclusion just enough that it made one of your answer choices seem attractive when it’s really a dud. The LSAC will lay traps like this all the time, it punishes careless reading with trap answer choices designed to capture those who are not 100% on task when reading the stimulus.

Focus on any assumptions you may be bringing to the question.

When we are stuck on a question, sometimes the culprit is not necessarily what’s in the stimulus. It’s what’s not in the stimulus or answer choice that we are bringing in with our heads. If it’s not in the stimulus or in the answer choice we cannot (with very few exceptions that are tied to ‘common sense’ type assumptions) bring it in as evidence to support an answer choice. If you can identify an assumption you bring in (and this will be hard in real time) that will help you eliminate one of your choices.

Special Situation: Necessary Assumption

If you are DT2WYD on a necessary assumption question there are a couple things to look for.

Special Situation: Twins

Sometimes you get DT2WYD and the two remaining answer choices seem very similar. This tends to be a good sign because usually (unless the LSAT is being ESPECIALLY Tricky) this means you are on the right path towards finding the correct answer to this question. In this scenario what I suggest you do is to hone in on the DIFFERENCES between the two answer choices. Remember there is one unique answer choice. So it’s in how the two are different from each other, and how that difference RELATES BACK TO THE STIMULUS AND QUESTION AT HAND where you’ll find the evidence for support/elimination of one of the answer choices.

Special Situation: Conditionals:

If both your answer choices contain conditionals chances are they may even be contrapositives of each other. Go back to the stimulus and figure out which version you need. DRAW THEM OUT. Some people think diagramming conditionals takes too much time, but the alternative s trying to figure it out in their head and for the vast majority of people this process is slower and much more prone to error. If you are not confident enough to draw out conditionals, I question whether you are truly in a position to be writing the LSAT. Drill Drill Drill until you are.

Ace in the Hole: Loophole

I saved this for last because not everyone has read Ellen Cassidy’s Loophole. If you haven’t and you are trying to improve your performance on the LSAT I highly suggest you pick it up. But if you have read the book, you can also apply Ellen’s Provable/Powerful dichotomy to the answer choices. Based on the question type, you can see if you can eliminate a provable answer choice to a powerful question or vice versa. This is something you want to pull out if you get stuck, it will do in a pinch if you are running out of time. This is a tool that people who did not read Ellen’s book do not have, so use it to your advantage! It's a valuable tool in your tool kit.

So there you have it, a rough guide on how to handle the dreaded down to 2, what do I do Scenario. You can also use this on it’s much meaner cousin: Down to 3, woe is me scenario. This is by no means a complete document, and I welcome anyone else who has tips to post them below. Let’s make this a living and breathing post guys so that future 7sagers can make use of our knowledge.

I know that the fellow 7sagers already know what the answer is, but I just wanted to say it one more time, prob just to tell myself (and get some resonance from others too!) that I made a right decision and nothing's wrong with it.

The answer: however long it takes to master the skills necessary and feel confident walking into the exam room that I have and will realize my potential.

I am saying this because i have a lot of LSAT beast friends around. I have a college friend who studied for a month and scored a 179. Another college friend who studied 4 hours a day for 3 months and got 175+. (He, by the way, told me: "If you study for 4 hours a day for 3 months, you will get the score you want." ) I also have another friend in my church Bible studies group who studied for a month, killed it, and got into Yale. So my Bible studies folks think that the ideal time to study for the LSAT is a month, and they are puzzled when I say I need more time than that. LOL... Yes I admit, they hurt my pride a bit.

But that's great, because I learned that being humble is the best way to conquer the LSAT. (and in general to conquer life). It's ok, because they have their own pace to things in life, and I have my own pace. I know what I am capable and not capable of, and I will not define my pace based on other people's pace.

I do need more time. I wanted to take it in June (and might try to if I progress quicker than what I currently anticipate), but 3 months of full time studying isn't going to be enough for me. I need to work on LG a lot more, to the point that I will feel confident and relaxed even when I see an unusual game thrown at me. I want to realize my potential on all sections.

That's the answer for me.

The end.

How can I solve the above problem?

Thank you.

I have been studying on and off for a year+ and I have taken almost every practice test 2004-2017. I am taking the March 30 LSAT.

I have just been retaking tests now, even though they are familiar, they still seem new most of the time.

I have three tests (all from 2019) that I've never taken before. Should I save them all for the weekends in March leading up to the test, or should I take them now?

Can't decide whether to save them for closer to the test date or take them earlier and then hard review them in March.

J.Y. and the LSAT are my partners for today lol

Good luck studying yall

Got my results back today and underperformed where I was PT’ing

So thinking of making a last minute virtual study group for those done with the CC and taking the March exam.

Let me know if interested!!

Hey everyone,

I'm looking for some advice because I feel lost, speechless and honestly I am not sure what to do next. I have never really posted on a forum before so here it goes.

I diagnosed at a 135 and then I studied for about 6 months for the LSAT and I was taking practice exams and my scores ranged from the lowest being 145 to 150. I intended to take the January 2020 exam hoping for a 150 (this isn't the score I am truly aiming for). I aimed for a 150 because I was trying to see whether or not I may have a chance because I had applied to a few Canadian law schools. My overall GPA for my degree is 3.2 and my best two years (also my last two years) are overall a 3.4. Overall, I have outstanding volunteer experience, work and internship experience, I have also gotten my research essay published and received an award.

Originally, I aimed to score a 161 on this exam, but I decided to take the exam anyway in hopes of getting a 150 and maybe a Canadian school may consider me (still not sure as I have not heard anything back).

I took the January exam and scored a 146. I wasn't upset at first but now I am. I am not upset at the score that I received, I am upset because I don't know how to move forward from here in terms of how do I raise my score? I have had a hard personal life and I don't have anyone to go to, to seek advice, or someone to guide me on how to improve on this exam and this is why I come to you all. I know if I can work hard, I will get in.

Here is a little bit of information on how I study and how much I score on each section usually:

LG: BY FAR MY BEST SECTION, while taking the exam timed I usually get a 11 or 14 out of 23. When I blind review, I get 17 out of 23 or 22 out of 23.

LR: I really hate this section. It is literally hit and miss for me. Timed, I usually get a 8 or 13 out of 26. When I blind review, I get 14 or 15 out of 26.

RC: This section is also hit and miss. Timed, I usually get 12/27. Sometimes I blind review and most times I don't because I am not sure how it helps, but if I do blind review, I get 15/27.

I WISH I COULD SEE WHAT I GOT ON EACH SECTION FOR THE JAN 2020 EXAM

I have used 7sage, Kaplan, Powerscore LSAT Bibles, YouTube. Do you guys recommend I ask a tutor here on 7sage? Should I go through CC again? An outline of advice would be really helpful.

Extra Information: When I studied for 6 months, I didn't have a job (I was looking for one) I found it extremely challenging to focus. Now, I work at a really great job, its full-time from 8 am to 4pm (I also have the option of going in at 7-3 or 9-5). It is not a lot of work and I literally do my job and leave (its clerical work). Usually after work I am pretty energetic, so I feel like I could either study in the morning or afternoon after work. I get weekends off.

I come to you all with complete sincerity and desperation. Please if anyone can advise me on how to move forward and what to do next, I would honestly appreciate it from my heart. Like I said again, I don't have anyone to ask for help and I come to you all because I hear 7sage is an amazing family with lots of love and encouragement.

Thank you!

Ron

I am currently a Masters student in Bioengineering with a BS in Chemistry (3.75 GPA). I have recently gotten some mixed opinions about the best way to get into Patent Law, and I'm really hoping I could get your advice/experience. I have heard that I should work as a scientist in the field and then go to law school once I have established myself with a company so as to increase my eligibility for an in-house position immediately following law school. I have also been told I should work as a patent agent for a few years after my MS instead and then go to law school.

My question is...How important do you think technical work experience is to law firms when hiring? Thanks in advance.

yes, due to the coronavirus...

But the good news is, I have more time to prepare and then give it a real shot for June test. Let's see how it goes.

Hey guys,

I've been on my LSAT journey since September where I scored an initial diagnostic of 142 (shameful I know...) I'm now scoring in the 154 range timed with my BR being in the 157 range.

I was wondering if anyone has any advice on time pressure during the exam? Do you recommend hiding the timer? I find that when I see it counting down it makes me quite flustered which is hard to control. However, when I am practicing while just timing on my phone I'm able to solely focus on the exam and my accuracy is a lot better.

I know my capabilities are really being hindered by the time pressure so if anyone has any advice I'd really appreciate it!