I am halfway through the CC, so basically since you can cancel your scores after seeing them, should I already register for the July test even though i have no idea how i will average on PTs?

hey all

so I've noticed that in my PT phase, I can find myself getting rusty in certain areas after not working on them for a few weeks or not doing timed practice for some time.

For example, Monday - I take a timed PT. Then from Tuesday to Sunday, I spend that time reviewing it (BR, watching and reading explanations for Q's I got wrong, etc.) From Tuesday to Sunday, however, I spend very little time doing any timed work or drilling - I'm just BRing and reviewing my PT and seeing what I got wrong and why.

Then on the following Monday, when I do a new timed PT, I feel myself pretty rusty/slowish on LR and RC especially, because I haven't done any under pressure timed work in 7 days.

I now realize that before any fresh new PT I take, I would like to spend the day before at least doing a few timed repeat sections in LR, RC, and LG just to get my juices flowing and to remind myself what working under timed conditions is like. Otherwise, if I jump straight into a fresh PT and it's been like 8 days since I've last done any timed work, I can find myself kinda rusty and slow.

Has anyone else experienced this??

In a sense, it's like doing a "timed practice" warmup the day before doing a fresh real PT, just to get those brain juices flowing and breaking any rustiness that might have accumulated over a past week.

I also sometimes feel rustiness when I do a deep dive intensive into something like LG fool proofing for two weeks, where all I do is foolproof LG for two weeks. Then after those 2 weeks when I suddenly do a timed fresh LR section without any warmups, I can find myself slow, rusty, and prone to silly mistakes.

Anyone experience something similar. Anyone have any advice on avoid rustiness and maintaining top LSAT shape before one takes a fresh test?

Thanks.

Hello, I have noticed that many questions which I miss when taking practice tests are due a failure to read/mentally process words (and sometimes entire sentences) in the question/answer text. I know that sounds absurd but imagine reading a sentence only to have your mind glaze over and even sometimes change certain words in the sentence. Just to be clear, this is not a vocabulary problem, it is more of a 'reading' problem. As you can imagine this issue plagues me in all aspects of the test.

This issue becomes more prominent with more time pressure: the faster I try to read the worse my comprehension is.

I was wondering if there was anyone out there that has had this problem and what techniques they used to overcome it? Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions on the matter!

So I canceled my test sitting for tomorrow's exam and need to register for the June Exam: however, my nearest testing location is listed as an "Area Test Center", which essentially means that they haven't selected the test center location yet (According to LSAC). They said they will inform you of where it will be when they decide upon a location, however I find it helpful to know where you the exam will be before I sign up for it.

On top of that, my first choice testing center filled up already, even though it was available a few days ago(still kicking myself over not registering then).

I have been reading proctor and test center horror stories, and I am worried that it will end up being a crap-shoot if I go with this location, since the only test center in that area which has had exams in the past has had consistently negative reviews(Granted I couldn't find any recent reviews, but still worrisome nonetheless). I would assume that they would hold it there or possibly at a hotel (which I honestly wouldn't mind as much).

On the other hand, there are spaces available at test centers that have good reviews, but they are 3-4+ hour drives.

The longer I wait the slimmer the pickings will be.

What should I do?

Has anyone ever had any experience registering to take an exam at a "Area Test Center" without knowing exactly where it was going to be when signing up/ what the end result was?

Thank You for your input!

I'm torn between taking the March LSAT or postponing it..

I already sat for a LSAT last year and received 163.

My recent pt scores have ranged between 164~170 and the average is around 167..

My BR scores are around 173~177..

My goal score is 171~174.

Should I take a chance and take the March LSAT or should I postpone and take the June LSAT?

If I do take the March test and fail to get the score I'm hoping for I plan to take the June one for the third time. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Hey Guys, I live in NY, I have been on and off on 7th for more than 2 years now. I almost paid for the testmaster course this week, when it hit me, it would probably be better to spend that money on a 7sage tutor. Are there any available in the NY area? can anyone send me the list of tutors?

I had planned to make this post a month or so ago, but projects at work have kept me pretty busy.

As I end my LSAT/Admissions journey, I'd like to express my thanks to the people who make up 7Sage. I started on this forum after having meager results with what one YouTuber referred to as the "Holy Grail of LSAT prep." Immediately, I was welcomed into an encouraging community that was as informative as it was supportive. Of course, there's some people who have gone above and beyond in offering their support: @BinghamtonDave , @keets993 , @"Cant Get Right" , @LSATcantwin, and @Alex . I genuinely hope that I will be able to follow along as you each find your way through law school and beyond.

I'm thrilled to say that I recently accepted an offer to the University of British Columbia (UBC). Throughout my LSAT prep, getting into UBC was one of the main motivators for pushing my score, so it's reassuring to have that the time and effort pay off. It's a fantastic school, and I'm excited to be moving to Vancouver in September. (If any fellow 7Sagers out there are also beginning at UBC this September, DM me; I'd love to connect.)

Of course, there are similar posts to this one, and in each one the OP has offered some advice regarding what strategies were especially effective for him/her. Because I don't think I can add much to what people have recently offered, I'll just give one suggestion, steeped in hindsight bias. If there is one thing I wish I had implemented sooner in my prep, it is the skipping mindset advocated by @NotMyName in his 7Sage AMA (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/18950/7sage-podcast-episode-11-7sager-notmyname-148-to-174-lsat). Going into each PT shooting for 4-5 points below my average was key to helping me overcome my "perfectionist fixation" on certain questions. It's really true that there are LSAT questions on which a quick skip should be considered a victory. After spending a few weeks developing this habit, I found that skipping some questions was actually able to contribute to feelings of confidence and control rather than anxiety and failure. Like most deities, the LSAT gods reward sacrifice. ;) For anybody out there who's still in the midst of preparation, I cannot emphasize enough how valuable are the shifting wavelengths on that podcast.

Finally, I'd like to give a massive shout-out to the tutoring services of @BinghamtonDave . Anyone who's spent a significant amount of time immersed in the 7Sage CC will tell you that one begins to hear J.Y.'s voice while taking PTs. ("'A' What!?!?! What does that even mean?!'") While this remains true for myself and LR, Dave's voice began declaring squatters right in my brain when tackling LG. Dave's knowledge of the test is outstanding, and he's a fine human being. Without Dave, I strongly doubt I would have made the cut for UBC. I cannot recommend him strongly enough.

I'll continue to hang around the forum and offer advice assistance where I can. If you have any specific questions, you're welcome to DM me. :)

Hi,

I live in NYC and was wondering if anyone was aware of mock-LSATs being held before the June 3rd, 2019 LSAT. I have heard of these before, where you go to a venue and basically take a PT under as realistic as possible conditions. Any one know of any in the next couple months?

Thanks.

New lesson under "Resources for Taking Simulated LSATs"

Link here: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/how-should-i-study-for-the-digital-lsat/

Full text below. If you have questions ask away! I'll try to answer if I can.

The LSAT going digital is the biggest change to the test in decades. It’s natural to feel some amount of anxiety as we leave the comfort of our printers and pencils behind to meet our digital LSAT gods.

There is no need to make drastic changes to how you’ve been studying in order to be prepared for the new digital LSAT format. You’re doing fine. This is because the content and the structure of the LSAT will remain exactly the same. Far more than format, it’s the content of the LSAT that ought to determine how you study for this test. Since that's not changing, you shouldn't change how you study. Blind Review is still king for Logical Reasoning. You still need to Fool Proof your Logic Games. And you still need to do Low Resolution summaries for Reading Comprehension.

The only thing different is that you should practice taking digital PrepTests on your tablet with a stylus to simulate actual test day conditions. If you don’t have a tablet, do it on a computer. LSAC is providing PrepTest 73 (September 2014) for free here: https://familiar.lsac.org/. We have every reason to believe that what we’re seeing on that site will be largely the same as what testers will see on July 15, the first administration where roughly half of the students will be taking the digital version of the LSAT. Starting with the September 21 administration, the LSAT will be fully digital.

7Sage will be releasing our version of the digital tester in open beta test mode by May 1 so you’ll have an opportunity to take PrepTests in digital format. The point is simply to get used to the act of doing the test digitally because there are differences from the paper version. For example, one advantage for everyone is that bubbling and flipping back to flagged questions are instantaneous. This results in time savings of 2-3 minutes or 5%-8% of total section time (35 minutes). There will also be an on screen timer so you can see how much time you have remaining without having to consult a watch.

You’ll also have to get used to doing Logic Games on separate sheets of scratch paper with a pen. Yes, you read that right. A pen. The LSAC has lost its mind. Just kidding. But they are seriously claiming that a pen is their writing instrument of choice provided to you along with an unspecified number of sheets of scratch paper.

The tablet itself (Microsoft Surface Go tablet 8.3” x 5.5” screen) will come with a small built in stand so you can tilt the screen slightly. If you’re used to taking your pencil to the paper to point to each word as you read - what I call "tactile reading" - the stylus can be used in an analogous manner. As far as we can tell, you cannot freely write or draw with the stylus. It can only be used to highlight or underline text, flag questions, and select answer choices.

The writing sample will be administered separately beginning with the June 3 administration. Test takers will be doing the writing section on their own computers and it will be typed. The obvious advantage here is that you can do this on your time where you want, as long as you have an internet connection.

Please keep in mind that this information is simply what we know for the time being based on what the LSAC has revealed. Since the Digital LSAT is new for the LSAC as well, we anticipate that they will be tweaking their digital tester and the process throughout future administrations. Accordingly, we will be updating this page.

Is there a way to rank the most difficult PT in a given year? Thank you in Advance.

I am taking the July Exam. The past two months I have been attending Testmasters but noticed that it really was not helping me improve my score significantly. I am signed up now for the 7Sage Ultimate. Should I be doing 2-3 prep tests a week before July or go over the fundamentals again and wait to take prep tests till next month according to the Schedule on 7Sage? If I start next month they have five tests a week which seems like way too much!

I will be 27, I feel a little behind. I didn't expect to work for 3-4 years after college. I hope it is not an invasive question. Happy to hear about stories about why you are going to law school at this time. :)

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I am from India and don't know anything willing to give this exam , can anyone help me out ??

I have been studying for the LSAT since the beginning of January. For all of Jan/Feb I stuck with my study schedule. I would wake up before work and study for 2-3 hours, and then spend my weekends studying also. During that time I was actually really enjoying the core content and working my way through that. Then March hit, and it was like my motivation switch was turned off. I started really struggling to get out of bed early enough to study before work, and even on the weekends I could not get myself to study for more than an hour or two.

I think I may have burnt myself out with all of the Jan/Feb studying. Also, I think the logic games section I found much more difficult, hence leading to my decrease in motivation.

If anyone has any advice or tips on what you use to stay motivated, or to get out of bed early haha, that would be super appreciated. In February I also started exercising more regularly which I think has helped mentally. Looking forward to seeing everyone's tips and tricks :) Thanks in advance.

7Sage helped me a ton, so I thought I would try to give a little something back if there is interest.

I went from a 149 diagnostic to 169 actual score, T1 law school, graduated with honors, 1st year corporate & securities associate at non-NYC big law firm.

If there's interest feel free to ask me anything about LSAT, law school, OCI, or practice and I will be happy to answer.

This is my fourth time studying for this test and every time I have studied, I have gotten a massive headache. It's usually when I am trying to wrap my brain around the LR questions. I don't fully understand the question at first and I am studying with Powerscore Logical Reasoning Bible, which is a Godsend. I fell for the shell answers (the answers that are intended to trick you into choosing it by mistake because they are arranged in a way that is attractive, but wrong {I see why I am still single :( }) and immediately got a headache.

Guess it was the anxiety that came after having my weakness exposed lol.

Anyone else get headaches, though? Either from studying for long periods of time or even during the switch between topics?

Hi everyone, I just wanted to share a brief synopsis of my studying so far, in case anyone is even slightly unsure about the 7sage method. I still have a long way to go in my studying, but I wanted to make this post to express at the very least my preliminary gratitude for 7sage. I have been studying for the LSAT very hard for a little over a year, and I have a little over a year to go. I plan to sit for LSAT in summer of 2020. My diagnostic score was a 147, so I knew that it would be a very long journey with this test. After going through the CC religiously, doing every single practice set available, watching every single one of J.Y.'s explanations (even to questions that I answered correctly and felt confident on) and fool proofing the first LG 1-35 until I was having dreams about them (that is not an exaggeration lol), I finally began taking full length practice tests. My first few tests were in the 160s, but today I scored into the 170s for the first time on a timed practice test.

To be entirely honest, a 26 point increase in my score wasn't something I was sure I would ever see. This is proof that the 7sage method works, fool proofing and blind reviewing with enough dedication can yield incredible progress. I will keep studying with the same intensity that I have been, but it was a massive confidence boost to finally see that number tip past 170.

Thank you 7sage!

So I am in serious need of advice from others on here because I don't really know any people who have my issue/are serious about the LSAT. I would greatly appreciate any and all of your advice regarding how I should proceed.

I finished undergrad back in 2017 (a full year early) and decided to take some time off to work, travel and eventually take the LSAT.

I have been studying since the beginning of 2018 and originally decided that I was going to take the June 2018 test. Unfortunately, I didn't feel prepared for it and decided to push it back to August, paying the test change fee. I took it kind of easy and wasn't intense with my studying and timing, so come August I decided to cancel my sitting for the exam the week before the test and registered for the November exam. (Again) Right as the test date change deadline for the November exam came around, I decided to once again change the test date to January. Foolishly, I decided to take a week long hiatus from studying and after doing this it ultimately ruined my study schedule/habits for a few weeks until after the holidays. As the dreaded test date change deadline came once again, I changed my test date AGAIN to take the March exam. $565 later, it is now the week before the exam and I am anxious and having serious doubts about whether I should sit for this exam or push it back to the June exam.

Let me explain some background info so you can have a better idea of where I'm at right now:

I started to get serious about my studying after my January test date change and was committed to having this be my final change. I started to focus more on my understanding of LR fundamentals and how I was thinking about them. Around mid February was when I finally started to consistently hit the low-mid 170s in my untimed Blind Reviews of my PTs. I was only doing them untimed and didn't really start practicing with timed PTs until 3ish weeks before the exam. Unfortunately, my timed scores are stuck in the high 150s - low 160s, while my Blind Review scores are consistently in the low - mid 170s.

Throughout the course of my study using PTs (May 2018 - present), I have completed them all except PTs 73-86. My scores were always around low-mid 150s Timed and low-mid (no higher than 166) 160s BR until last month where I finally started to improve and was consistently scoring in the low - mid 170s Blind Review.When I started doing PTs timed after improving my Blind Review score I was scoring in the high 150s - low 160s timed and Here's how the Timed to Blind Review improvements usually look like for each section: RC= from - 6 or 7 to -4 or less ; LR (per section) = -5 to 7 to -2 or less ; LG -7 or less (usually because I don't get to finish all 4 games when I do them timed) to -0.

My indecisiveness kicked back in because I took PT 72 a few days ago (03/23) and started to worry more because I scored 158 Timed, 168 BR, which has been my first sub 170 BR score and lowest Timed/Blind review score in a month. I was planning to do 2-3 PTs every day until Friday before the test to finish the PTs I have yet to complete however I fear that I may be burning out already and that this may not be a good idea.

With my GPA, resume and the right LSAT score (170+), I think I have a decent shot at a T14 school which has ultimately been my goal since the start.

I know when you are applying to T14 schools that you really should only take the test once, so I am concerned that if I don't get the score that I want that retaking it would ultimately hurt my application. I'm also not sure if I would want to take it and have to cancel my score because it would still show up as 'score canceled' on my application.

On top of all that my sleeping schedule (my fault admittedly) is messed up and I don't seem very keen on taking the exam at 8:30AM.

June would be my last chance to take the exam because I don't like digital exams and especially don't want to risk being a guinea pig for the July 2019 exam. Also, the test is at 12:30PM and will be disclosed. However, the test center I wanted to take it at is full and I would have to travel further to take it, however that's not that big of a deal.

Each time I tell my family I have a test date and then tell them I pushed it back, they keep getting more and more skeptical of whether I can even achieve the score I want, which doesn't help either because I feel like I keep disappointing them by saying one thing and not fulfilling it, even though I won't be applying to law school for at least a year (fall 2020 or 2021).

Ultimately here's the question(s) I have:

-Would it look bad on my application to a T14 School (Especially T6s: YSH/CCN) if I took the March exam and canceled the score?

-What can I do to bridge the gap between my Blind Review and Timed scores?

-Is there really anything I can do to bridge that gap in the next 4 days?

-If I shouldn't take the March exam, how can I improve my studying so I am more efficient in bridging that gap? I have ~14 PTs which I haven't touched (73-86).

-How long before the exam should I be consistently scoring Timed to have a good idea of how I would perform under test conditions?

-How can I explain to my family once again if I change the test date that this will actually be the final test even though that is what I've been saying since November?

If you took the time to read all of this and give me your thoughts/advice/support I greatly appreciate it!

:)

Also, please excuse me if I repeat any words, phrases or if the grammar isn't perfect as it's pretty late and I just needed to get this off my chest ASAP.

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Hello everyone,

I know that this type of posts are rather cliche, as most people likely have experienced similar episodes during their LSAT prep processes. Normally, I would just keep to myself and try to adjust my prep methods, but with the actual test date creeping up, and little to no progress, I desperately need some guidance/suggestions on studying before my time runs out. The other factors of my student profile is rather strong compared to the LSAT, and improving my score is currently the priority.

Currently, I am aiming for a 165+ on the June 2019 test, I have started studying for the LSAT about 10 months ago without doing a diagnostic test, self-studied using a Kaplan book. But it wasn't consistent, as I have classes, and a job during the semester. The first PT I did after finishing the material, I got a 160, non-strictly timed and included more, longer rest periods than the actual testing conditions.

For the past few weeks, I have been doing 3 full length LSAT PT's every week, and the scores ranged from 157-163. Also, I just started doing Blind Review last week, and there is probably little to no improvements, just yet. I will continue to do BR from now and on, but I would like to look at other factors that I could improve on, making sure that I am approaching my problems with the correct methods. Keeping track of the records, my scores still average out around 160. The typical PT for me would be -5 to -7 on each LR, -3( on LG, and -6 to -8 on RC. LG is by far my strongest section, I usually fall victim to misreading the question or trying to speed through the section under time pressure; On LR sections, I usually find that I will do much worse on one than the other, and they generally balance each other out. (Flaw, Strengthen/Weaken questions are usually the problems); RC is often the nightmare for me, and the one that I run out of time on relatively frequent. English is my not my native language (L3, in fact), and I struggle to catch all the important elements in the passage clearly, especially the ones that have a lot of viewpoints and filled with technical terms (Scientific Passages). The hardest type of questions in this section would be Inference, and Author's attitude towards x (A lot of the times, I don't understand all the words listed, and forced to guess between two)(/p)

Ideally, I would keep to the current testing date for a few reasons: 1. I already paid for the admission ticket; 2. The new digital LSAT is rolling out in July, and fully implemented by September. Personally, I find that I would lose attention faster on a digital platform than regular paper tests (I tried the free Khan prep course for a bit, and I regularly lose focus while doing the questions). Thus, I would try to avoid taking the digital one as much as possible. 3. I am finishing my undergrad this year, and I can't afford to take a gap year, so catching the upcoming admission cycle would be important.

With little over 2 months left, I am already spending all the time I could to study, but I don't think I am using my resources effectively, and keep taking PT at this rate probably won't give me the improvements that I am hoping for. I would like to change up my schedules, but not really sure where to start at this point... If anyone can provide me with suggestions, it would be much appreciated! Thanks for your time in advance!

I don't know where to turn to and am really struggling with this test. I started studying with a different prep company and started using 7sage a few months ago. I've written the lsat twice (sept 2018 - 146 & Jan 2019 - 147). I was planning on taking it next week (March 30th) in hopes of possibly getting a good score for Osgoode's cycle (but I'm feeling so defeated with anxiety and not being able to get through a single passage currently). I didn't think I would do bad the first two attempts, and getting all the rejection letters is deflating my confidence in this journey thinking its not for me. My pt's have been ranging between high 150s to low 160s now but I feel the anxiety and feel like the same thing will happen as last time and I will score in the 140s again.

if anyone has felt this way - can you please offer some assistance/what you did to overcome this the week of the test. I feel like my self-worth is low because I can't pass this test and I don't think I'm smart enough to attend law school at this rate.

During blind review of a prep test, and clicking on the "explanation" link beside a question (in the question performance list), the link will bring me back to the first page where you input all of the answers on a prep test, rather than to the explanation video. This is a problem that started recently.

If I right click and open in a new tab, it will bring me to the video. If I click on it directly, it will take me back to the input sheet.

Hi, I haven't been on in a while as my account has expired, so I hope you all don't mind giving me some free advice.

I just found out last night that I got in to my dream school and I am thrilled. ( it was the only one I applied to so I'm also relieved lol) The issue is though that I didn't receive the kind of scholarship award that I would have liked, given that I have to now quit my full time job to go to school my husband is also nervous about how this is going to work.

I have a very good gpa but only a very modest lsat score, so I am lucky they accepted me at all and that they offered some financial award. But I need it to be more.

Is it too late to do anything about this and if not what would I do/say? I don't want them to think that I don't appreciate their admission etc. I want to be super respectful, but I need to see about this or I'm worried that I might not be able to go at all.

What about if I ask if I can re-take the lsat in June or July and ask if my new improved score would merit a new offer? Is that something that is done? or is this written in stone?

Please advise. I appreciate you all so much. You guys were there for me and wouldn't let me quit when I got a less than stellar result before so I thank you all.

-Ana

Hello Everyone,

I am registered to take LSAT next Saturday. I am currently scoring between 155 and 159. I completed about 50% of tests and noticed that my score started significantly improving in the last few weeks. I definitely want to take June or even July LSAT. I am planning to start submitting law school applications starting August 2019 (2020 admission). Is there a chance any law school may not accept LSAT score from June or July?

Also, what is more common for law schools to do: take higher, later or average score when applicant took two tests?

#help

Andrii