Hi guys! Maybe this is not super important, but I was wondering if any of you listen to light music while studying and blind reviewing? Of course, I never listen to music while taking PTs, doing timed sections, or drilling questions, but I find it helpful to listen to music (not anything too stressful; mostly instrumental) while doing blind review and writing out my thought process for each question. Do you think this could potentially have a negative effect? It seems to help me focus and drown out any surrounding noise, but I'm not sure if it's doing something negative that I'm not realizing lol. Thanks!

Hi everyone!

I am looking for some advice in regards to my exams! So I just made a huge decision to postpone law school for another year, so I decided to cancel my November test due to health related issues and just the feeling that I knew I was not ready.

Currently, I work part-time and study about 5 hours a day. I first seriously started 7 sage in June and did not touch my first PT until I was done with the CC. That exam I got a 160. Unfortunately, my family pressured me into taking the exam this past September and I ended up scoring very poorly due to having a concussion while taking the exam (not a smart decision on my part) and am now extremely worried about what law schools will think. I have talked to many people and they have stated that I need to make sure I do extremely well on the next exam I take so law schools will see that the first score I received is not representative of my efforts.

I am going through the 7 sage CC again (very slowly- I used to study 10-12 hours a day but knew this may have also contributed to my low score/stress during test day) and got an LSAT tutor, but just did my timed PT real since the September test and got a 160. I am meticulous about blind review and usually score -3 on LG (this exam I did -9). I know I have to start up doing LG games again to get those points back. But since I need a really high score, is there anything else anyone can offer. I just don't know how its been so much time but yet my score has stayed the same..

I want my recommendation request to be more personal than an email, especially since I have not seen my professors in over a year (and in one case, have not kept in contact since graduation). I was thinking of handwriting a request, and then waiting about 2 weeks for a response before I check in via email.

I would say something along the lines of "Your course ___ really resonated with me, and I was very appreciative of your time and support throughout undergrad... I hold you in extremely high regard and it would mean so much to me if you would consider submitting a rec letter for my application to law school. If you would like more information, please email me at ___ and I would be happy to forward you my resume and any other relevant documents."

I usually send a nice present or a bouquet of flowers to people who, professionally, do nice things for me. My go-to is Edible Arrangements, but they’re about $50 for a nice enough arrangement, and I have 5 recommenders soooo...yeah. This fall I’m shorter on money than usual, so how are you all thanking your recommenders? (A “nice email” is not enough in my world because it doesn’t really show that the sender had made any effort on their part). TIA

Just curious how much inflation to factor into a reused PT. I scored the highest I have ever scored on a 5 section exam, but not sure if I should just take the score with a grain of salt because I had seen the test a few months ago, or be confident that it's representative of an improvement.

Thanks!

I'm taking the June LSAT and looking for a study partner who wants to score a 170+. Can either be in-person or via Skype. If you're interested, message me.

You guessed it. I circle the question, put a tilda next to my two AC’s, select one, go back for BR, and ITS THE FREAKING TRAP ANSWER EVERY TIME. How did you all fix this problem?

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Just took an LR practice test & I can’t seem to understand this problem. I think I just get caught up in the language & can’t move past it.

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I really want to solidify some consistent timing strategies, so if you have any specific procedures you follow for any of the sections, I'd love to hear about them.

LSAT rewards those who persevere, and what is life if not one long journey of perseverance. If you want it enough, then you will be able to do it. Temper your goals though, and go about it incrementally. Getting to your goal may takes months, if not years. Have the right mindset and expectations, and you will be able to go further. There is no shortcut, only heartfelt triumphs after profound struggling.

Personally, I have a 3.0 gpa, so to get into the top schools, I must get at least a 99 percentile lsat score. At some point you realize that improving is the easy part, and trying my best not to decline, now that gets depressing. To some degree, I think one has to become obsessed, or a hermit or a monk; harnessing motivation wherever you can and finding meaning in every little thing in life, good and bad, and devoting ungodly amounts of time to this seemingly marathon without end.

In another perspective, if you can get through this, you can just about get through anything. This is why the LSAT can be a good indicator and preparation for law school. Add oil!

Hi guys!

I am taking the November LSAT (which will be my second attempt). I have put together nearly every other part of my application except my Personal Statement. I can't seem to put pen to paper and just get it done! I think I'm 50% braindead from prep and 50% anxious about how important I perceive my PS to be.

I know logically that I need to draft it ASAP so that I can edit and tweak in the coming weeks. I just feel like I have a major case of analysis paralysis. Can anyone relate? How have you overcome your writer's block?!

Any tips and motivation would be so appreciated. Thank you :)

Any success stories to share for diag at 145 and writing 160+? Looking for some motivation and avg weekly hour of studying :)

Do you guys think that the amount of time you are willing to spend on something reflects how much you like the thing?

For example, say I really enjoy studying for the LSAT for about 25 minutes, (after which it becomes a drag) does that indicate that I don't really enjoy studying? Or to put it in philosophical terms: does the quantity of time you are willing to spend on a given thing correspond to the amount you enjoy doing that thing?

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I’m thinking of applying to U Chicago. It’s a perennial top 5 law school. But I don’t know too much about it relative to the other T14’s. And I read mixed reviews. Any thoughts on this school’s reputation and what it’s known for?

Hey guys, so I don't know how silly this question is. But first time taking the test next month.

I had my SO take a picture of me in my home, in front of a plain wall, for the admission ticket. I really didn't want to shell out 20-25 bucks for a CVS/Walgreens passport photo.

The thing is, even when I take the pic during the daytime, there is a very slight shadow/silhouette of my head on the wall behind me. Is this okay? Otherwise, the actual picture of me is crystal clear, no shadows, nothing. There can be no doubt the pic is of me, for anybody looking at it. I just don't know how anal the people at the test centers are with this sort of thing.

I've seen multiple responses in multiple posts about this question so I just wanted to corral all advice in this post based on my particular stats. I will take the LSAT in November and have a 166 on file with a 3.4 GPA. PT'ing around 172 and hoping to hit at least a 169. If my application is ready to go before scores are released, is it advisable to submit and indicate that I am re-taking in November, or to wait until I get my score and then submit? I will likely blanket T-14.

Who feels ready? Shaky? Share your stories please :)

170 and 3.0 GPA. I know I have a slim shot at T-14 without early decision. Anyone have luck getting into Penn through ED with these numbers? I'm looking at early decision at UVA or Georgetown, neither of which I'm too thrilled about. UVA while BL placement is great, I don't like the location. Georgetown is the black sheep of the T-14 with not too great BL placement. I like NU but that means I can't ED any other school until after I receive my decision in late December.

Any splitters have success without doing early decision?

I thought I’d take some time to write this out for you. It’s becoming clear that the LSAT is a good reflector of Law School success for so many reasons that extend beyond just the “logic” of the test. I feel many of these things go overlooked, but are important to keep in mind.

1.) There is NO handholding in law school. They will throw you into the fire right away. It is 100% on you to sit down, sift through all the information being thrown at you, and pick out important take aways. You need to learn how to learn the law on your own.

This is much like what we have to do on the lsat. We are presented with an unfamiliar type of test in which you need to figure out what it is you are suppose to be learning. You have to learn how to learn logic. It’s very much a personal challenge that you have to devlop through on your own. Just like law school.

2.) the way to prepare for finals is to take practice tests and make outlines. You have to dedicate weekends to work on outlines and take full practice tests. This is one big way to prepare for finals. You need to have the discipline to work on your time off.

This is exactly what you do with the lsat. If you want to be successful on that test you need to tell your friends “no” to going out all the time. You need to take a significant amount of your own free time to sit down and do the LSAT. If you can do that, it is an indicator you have the potential to be successful.

3.) you have to want it. Law school doesn’t come easy and it is easy to let the work “slip” into the back seat. Doing the readings, staying on top of office hours, and briefing cases can become easy to “put off”. If you put it off until finals come you’re screwed. Cramming in law school is just not an option.

Which is exactly like the lsat. You can’t cram for that test. It just doesn’t work like that. You need time to develop the understanding of the logic and how to properly spot and apply it. Just like the law where you have to learn to spot issues and apply the law. The parallel is uncanny.

These are just a few of the parallels I notice so far. So when you hear that the lsat “isn’t even what we learn in law school” it’s because that is looking at it wrong. It’s not the subject matter that the LSAT tests, it’s your ability and desire to learn subjects that are largely unfamiliar and your dedication to that pursuit.

Keep at it 7Sage, you will be successful!

Back to Civ Pro reading.....

Does anyone else ever feel like the RC is sometimes total wild card? Sometimes it's a breeze and I get -2, but sometimes the passages just don't click for me and I end up getting -8.

Has anyone else experienced this? What are your tips for narrowing down this wide variation of error rate?

Thank you and happy Monday :)

Saw the other thread about writing a GPA Addendum and I was wondering if my situation would apply/it would be worth it. I have a cumulative GPA of a 2.91(Yeah I know) due to a couple of instances that occurred throughout my collegiate career. The first 3 semesters of college my GPA was a 3.2/3.6/3.98 until the spring semester my sophomore year. The night before the first day of classes I was involved in a DUI Hit-and-Run in which I hit my head on the window and suffered severe trauma to my brain. I was on academic accommodation's for pretty much the entire semester and ended up getting around a 2.1. Following that semester I transferred to ASU and got around a 3.0-3.2 the rest of the time that I was in school. The reason I was wondering if I should write an addendum is because I had a strong GPA up until my accident and noticeably had to work harder in school and to pay for my bills because of the trauma and financial obligations that arouse due to the accident. If I wrote an addendum I would probably approach it from the point of view that the accident made it to where I needed to work harder in and out of school due to the cost both mentally and financially. Wonder what you all think, any feedback/input is appreciated! I took the LSAT last year and got a 150, had a little bit of bubbling error due to me rushing. Taking it again in November and should hopefully bring my score closer to the 160s

EDIT: I was the one hit by the drunk driver. Wasn't sure if that was clear.

Hi Im korean and I took October test in korea.

It was a terrible day for me. I didn't do very well on virtually all sections and expecting lower score than my previous test in July.

So heres what happened.

When the time for section 5 was about to be finished I found that one of my answers in section 2 of the scranton was not fully erased. So I erased the mark fully and in the process of doing so I erased part of my answers and blackened them .

The proctor saw it and told me it was a violation as I "worked" on different section and gave me a gold slip saying 'I marked on one question in section 2.'

In doing so I did not turn back the pages to section 2 or anything of that sort but just erased the incomplete marks and blackened the answer that was recorded so as to avoid the technical difficulties because of the machine's misreading my answer.

From my search I found out yellow slip is a deal breaker and considered as a serious offense. But i feel like erasing the incomplete marks as a 'violation' that wil be on my record permanently seems rather disproportionately harsh

The proctor did not deny he didnt see that I turned back to different section but merely saw me marking on different section. The whole incident destroyed my day and the prospect that this would go in my permanent recors is disheartening. I want to make my case to LSAC though it would be very difficult to overturn the case in my favor.

Anybody had similar experience? I really beed some help on how to deal with this entire mess.

Is it a bad idea to use tests prior to 34 for practice? Clearly, the LSAT has evolved quite a bit. However, I venture to guess that there is still a lot to be gained from earlier tests, even outside of LG.