So I scored 3-4 points lower than my average on the November LSAT, but still have a score that is worth applying to some schools in the T20-40 range. My plan is to move forward with applications, but I am studying for a retake because I know I can do better. I won't write the January test because I would like to have more time to study and reach my full potential, so I suppose the goal is March. If I get some great offers with my current score, I can decide after receiving my March score whether or not to accept those offers. The upside is that I will go to law school knowing I did my best on the LSAT, and won't have to struggle with the fact that I did not reach my target score in November. If I commit to delaying a cycle, I have March, June, and the digital July with a free score cancellation to work with and I'll be able to apply the day that applications open up.

My plan for studying: One section with thorough BR each day during the workweek, plus drills, and one timed full length PT on Saturday mornings with thorough BR for the rest of the weekend. I will use old PTs, including those which are used for the core curriculum, for the single sections. I still have a ton of fresh new PTs that I can take every Saturday too, and I can use those as a reasonably accurate indicator of my scoring range.

I reviewed every PT I took before scoring, but not as thoroughly as I could have. After taking a single section, I find that BR is less daunting and I have been writing out my explanations of circled questions and rewriting answer choices/stimuli to make wrong answers into right answers. Basically, I'm committed to doing BR better.

I guess my goal with this study plan is to increase the amount of quality studying I do each week. Before November, I only took 17 PTs and averaged way less than 2 per week because I had trouble finding time for multiple full length PTs around my work schedule. If I score close to my previous average score in March, I would consider delaying until next cycle and taking advantage of the benefit of applying early and a 3-4 point increase. At the same time, I feel I could score even higher than my current average by sticking to this study plan. I am confident that with 20-30 extra PTs under my belt, and more mastery/consistency in LG/RC, my score range will jump to the top few percentiles. That's where I want to be. Any thoughts or comments are welcome :)

Hi all,

I just got my November LSAT score and it not only wasn’t my target score, but also didn’t improve from my last score. I was PTing a good 7-8 points above where I ended up scoring, so I feel bad not retaking. But for various reasons, I’m also set on applying this cycle. Is it at all possible to apply to schools with the scores I have and then re-take the LSAT in January and have that score added to my file? I don’t want them to hold my application for that new score because I wouldn’t want to apply that late, so I guess I’m wondering if it’s possible to take the test after the fact and then have a score added to my file (at least for those schools that haven’t made a decision yet).

Thanks!

I am so confused.

I had been writing PT's for two weeks prior to the November LSAT and averaging in the 155-157 range. Feeling confident, I took the November LSAT with no issues with anxiety, or time management during the test. Yet, 3 weeks later, I find I have done just as bad as my original diagnostic test...

My Logic games and RC sections were both WAY below average. Does anyone have any tips to improve marks? I feel as if I have been hit by a bus with this mark.

I received multiple fee waivers from schools in the T-14. However, my lsat score is a 161. Should I get excited by these waiver, or do they send them to everyone with scores similar to mine. I'm also a urm so I was wondering if this is why I'm being sent them.

Hi everyone,

I'm in a bit of a dilemma and I'm wondering if with your experience, you'd have any advice for me. I began studying for the LSAT in June of this past summer, summer 2018. I enrolled in a Blueprint course that started at the end of June and ended right before the September 2018 LSAT. The class was 4 hours long and took place 3 days a week. At the time, I did not know much about the LSAT. I thought that going to these classes would be enough for me without doing much practice at home. I took the September 2018 LSAT because I signed up for it, not knowing I could withdraw up until the day before if I wanted to, and did not score well at all which was expected. Now, after doing A LOT of research, and learning that law schools look at all scores and taking the test many times looks bad, I want to make sure that the next time I take the test I will get the score I need. I am preparing for the January 2019 LSAT and my goal is to get a score of 160. I have been studying almost every day and in a completely different way than before. I am currently a senior in undergraduate school, and if I don't get accepted into a school for Fall 2019 I will have to take a year off, which I really do not want to do. The school I am aiming for is ranked in the 30's, but if I am not able to get a 160 on the LSAT and get in the mid 150s instead, is it still worth applying and going to a lower ranked school (probably ranked in like the 60's)? That is my main question. If it is not worth it, and I am not scoring in the 160s by early January I will withdraw from the test and take the year off to study and get a better score. If it is worth it, I will still take the test, do the best I can, and go to the best lower-ranked school I can go to (and possibly transfer after 1L if it is possible). Please let me know what is best from your experience. And if anyone is going through the same dilemma I hope that this helps!!

Thank you guys,

fLAWless

I took the LSAT in September and I'm planning on taking it again in January. Prior to the September test, I was scoring well on my practice tests. Then on test day I freaked myself out and my nerves wrecked my score. I'm terrified this is going to happen again in January and I'd hate for something like that to ruin my chances again. I really need January to go well because I want to be admitted for the fall of 2019. If anyone has any tips to get over the test day jitters, please please please let me know what helps you. I think the timing aspect of the test, along with being like "oh sh**, I'm actually taking this right now," really got to me. I rushed through the questions because I was nervous I was running out of time and I was overthinking everything.

WORDS OF WISDOM APPRECIATED!!

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

I self studied for two months and took about 10 full practice tests under timed conditions. From these prep tests my diagnostic was a 153, my average LSAT score was a 167, and I managed to break a 171 on exactly one of the tests. It might be worth noting that my highest score was on an exam that had a relatively simple logic games section and did not feature comparative reading passages, which the test I used for my diagnostic did include.

I finally sat for the November LSAT and left feeling unsure of how I did. I missed one entire game due to my pace and had to guess for all of its corresponding questions. Therefore I assumed that my score would at least be saved by my LR and RC performance, which I was respectively averaging -2 and -3 per section during my prep tests.

I received a 156 on my real LSAT. Needless to say I was completely disheartened upon seeing the score, but have since done a full review of the questions I got wrong and am currently looking to improve and try again.

I got around 8 questions wrong per section. A noticeable pattern for the LR questions I missed was that upon Blind Review, I noticed that each of them featured question stems that I was unable to immediately identify. I had to return to my LR Bible to pinpoint their exact classifications. I was able to get most of the right after my BR.

For more context, I entered the exam with absolutely no reading comprehension prep. I just ordered the bible this weekend. I spent the two months of prep devoting around 4 fours five days a week to LR and LG. All the way leading up to the real exam, I was unable to complete most logic games under 8 minutes, but I was completing them with 100% accuracy at about a 15-10 minute average.

Considering all of this information, what do you suggest I do to maximize my potential on the next exam? How should I make the most out of the time remaining on my 7SAGE account. It expires in Feb and I have to retake in Jan of 2019 given that my heart is 100% set on attending law school in the fall of 2019.

I got a 164 on the Nov test and was a bit disappointed. I was PT'ing at about a 167 for the 2 months before the test. The majority of those tests, however, were older ones (in the 40's and 50's). Right before the actual test, I took tests 82, 83, and 84 and got a 164, 167, and 166 on those respectively. My goal was to attend Notre Dame, Emory, WashU, or Vanderbilt in the fall with a decent amount of money off, which is now looking slim. I was wondering if I am better off applying now with my 164, than I would be with let's say a 165 in Jan. Another fear I have is that schools I can get into now (for example a Minnesota or Wake Forest) will delay my app if I retake and that I could lose out on $ that I would otherwise have applying now without retaking. Any thoughts?

I’ve taken the LSAT 3 times. The first was in Sep. 2017, went in somewhat blind and got wrecked by reading comp, scoring 157. Panicked, I registered for the Dec. 2017 test with only days before registration closed. During the 6 weeks I had to prepare I took advantage of all the free materials 7sage has to offer and obtained a 161.

I applied to schools with this score and my 3.4 GPA. I’m the son of immigrants and the first in my family to attend college, which allowed me to write purposeful statements that got me waitlisted at Berkeley, USC, and Michigan. Unfortunately I didn’t get in off the waitlist at any of these schools, but it inspired me to believe that with a better LSAT score, I could attend a top school.

I didn’t enroll at schools that had offered me admission and retook Nov. 2018, feeling hopeful about this next cycle. For a solid 3-4 months I went over the free logic game videos, multiple times, and took PTs, making sure to review after. My performance range was between 163-167, but only scored a 162 on test day: -4 in LG, -3 RC, and -16! in LR (when I was averaging -10 max).

I’m disappointed, but have applied to schools with this new score nonetheless. I told friends and family that last time was the last time I was taking the LSAT, but... March 2019. This test would allow me to potentially get off waitlists, get better scholarship money, finally get the score I’ve been chasing (even if that means delaying for another cycle), or finally realize that the low 160s are my limit.

So I’ve just signed up for the premium course and plan to upgrade in a few weeks when I have more money, as I want access to the harder questions. I’m going to do what I haven’t done, complete the CC and do all the drills. Time to find out if this will be a story of perseverance or arrogance.

I have heard so many things about how many times you should and should not take the LSAT, I am wanting to get into the University of Oklahoma and my score was not high enough to do so from the November test. (I am wanting to apply when I will receive scholarship) However people have told me not to take it too much because that will look bad? I was thinking as long as I improve each time I should be okay right?

Hey everyone,

So I used the law school predictor tool using my stats as a URM: 3.39 and 152 LSAT and it says I have a 79% chance?

I don't mean to undermine the methods here, but it almost sounds too good to be true. Anybody have experience applying here or know anybody with similar stats as mine and how they may have fared?

If it helps to know I also have a Masters and have been a bilingual middle school teacher for 5 years.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you so much!

I need to improve around 10-15 points for what my goal score is.. I know this is a lot however I have had no previous tutoring and also know it would take time for this score to gradually come up. However, is this the program I should be using to improve my score? I am planning on buy the 3 month package.

Hey guys. So I got my November LSAT results back, and scored a ~163. I’m content with the score, having only studied 2 months so far, but feel that I can do better. I want a score in the 170s.

My situation is a bit different as I’m already going -0 on games. My weak areas are in Logical Reasoning and Reading Comp. For LR, I’m going around -7 per section, and for RC, I’m going -5.

Any advice on how to shore up LR and RC for the January administration? Should I just keep taking practice tests and BR, or should I go back to the Core Curriculum for a few weeks before starting a heavy PT cycle?

Thanks in advance!

Hello all,

Hope your studying is going or went well. I recently retook the lsat this past November and scored a 159. It was my second attempt. I got a 155 on my first attempt. I am wondering if I should retake in January or March. My target score is a 165 and I am worried about not getting into school. My cumulative GPA is a 2.93 although I have a medical explanation for my poor performance during my first two years which tanked my GPA. I am really not sure what I should do. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

I will be eternally grateful for this site and this community. My initial diagnostic was a 152 and I started studying a few years later. I was lucky to have decided on 7sage after researching other prep companies and I couldn't have made a better decision. Started studying feb/March of this year and after a bad test center experience and a cancel in Sept I miraculously got a 172 in November. I had only managed 2 171s while studying and that was only on retakes. Otherwise I was scoring between163-166 but my BR scores were always above 170, usually in the 175+ range. My mindset played a huge role in my score the second time around, as I had through the roof anxiety in September along with a 2+ hour test delay that I did not see coming. I had a newborn at home during the November administration (I delivered on Oct. 30th) so I thought my stress about leaving him and leaving him enough milk was going to negatively affect my performance but I think it played the opposite role - it pushed the lsat out of my thoughts because there were more important things to worry about. I accepted that however I did during November it didn't matter, I was still applying and everything would be ok no matter what. This was thanks to advice that I read on this forum a few weeks before the exam to just do what you have to do, in the long run your score and the school you attend will fade into the background, what you make of your career is what's going to matter. Your best is all you can do - especially because I felt as if I was more prepared this time around, I didn't take many prep tests in the few weeks before November (for obvious reasons), but I was scoring in an ideal range during timed sections. I think the key was getting out of my own head, accepting where I was at progress wise when test day came around and just approaching sections like I'd done time and time again, relying on habit, not worry. Never give up on yourself no matter your previous scores or circumstances. I was so close to accepting sept. (Which would have been a score nowhere near 170) as my only chance since I thought it would be close to impossible to test with a near two week old baby. I'm so glad that I didn't.

There are a few discussions from just over a year ago about the practical aspects of how to record timed PT's (selfie sticks, uploading and file sizes).

I have that part down. I am curious to know what others do with the data afterwards. I can now see what questions are taking more time and I will drill the worst offenders. I think that knowing that I'll be watching myself makes me more aware of my time management, which is valuable in and of itself.

I just want to know if there is another step that I am unaware of.

I appreciate the input, as always.

I have been hearing about people talking about having tutors for studying, some from 7sage. How exactly does that work?

Hi everyone,

Just like the title says, I’m on the fence about a retake. I took September and got a 169 and then got a 172 in November. My PT average over the last five PTs was 171 with a high score of 175. My gpa is 3.9. I’m not planning on applying til next cycle. Is it worth the time and stress to try to bump myself up the one point to Harvard and Yale’s medians?

I was in a car accident about three years ago and am now a quadriplegic. I would love to go to law school to advocate for disability rights. I have been studying for the LSAT for a while but am confused about the accommodations I can receive because I am unable to use my hands. I called the LSAC and they told me I could use a scribe or request other accommodations. She could not tell me what other accommodations would be available such as using my laptop to take notes. I am concerned about having to use a scribe that I have never met. I think I would waste precious time trying to explain to them how I wanted to write my notes. Do you guys have any advice?

This might be an incredibly dumb question, but does LSAC automatically send new scores to schools you've already applied to? Specifically - I just got my November scores, but have already applied to a bunch of schools. I want to send my new scores, and was under the impression that they get sent automatically, but now I'm irrationally worried that I missed a step... Can someone confirm that they'll be sent automatically - or I guess let me know what steps I need to take?

***Update sorry! Figured out that it is automatic but now I can't delete this post!

I just heard the newest 7sage podcast. It was such a great episode and encouraged me to keep persevering in my LSAT studies. I thought I heard @"Grey Warden" mention watching J.Y. doing RC passages in the curriculum. I'm a little unclear if that was part of the explanation videos or if it was part of a timed test.

Are there videos of J.Y. doing RC passages in the curriculum as part of a timed test? I think it would be great to observe how exactly he approaches RC.

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I was retaking a 171 I got on the June, 2018 LSAT for better scholarship opportunities and also to at least meet LSAT median at HYS. I was telling myself that I’d stop retaking if I meet 173, and that is the score I got!

I’d like to thank 7Sage, and also personally JY because attending JY’s BR sessions for PT85 (September 2018 exam) was really helpful to me.

I went by the username “TP” by the way. Haha.

For the November exam, I went -1 on RC and -3 combined on LR.

I actually went -2 on RC and -4 combined LR when I took the September exam as a PT the week before the November exam.

I really think that attending JY’s BR sessions contributed to reducing the mistakes by 2. I volunteered to answer the questions as much as I could during the sessions, and that really paid off! I felt like I knew all the tricks in the books and walked in to the test center very confidently.

I highly recommend attending JY’s BR sessions (of the most recent LSAT administration) the week before your real LSAT.

Ok I finally looked after 3days (I know, I’m a little crazy). 163.

So. My PT average is 167 with a pretty tight standard deviation of +/-2. I took the Sept. and got 158 and was very rattled, I’d never scored there (that whole test is a blurry, blacked out memory) except for my diagnostic back in June. Then Nov felt much better and more like my practice tests. I wasn’t particularly nervous — ya know, just regular “this is important, stay calm” kind of thoughts.

I didn’t think “test day fatigue” would figure so prominently in my scoring, but I guess it does.

Would you guys retake in Jan? I really don’t want to apply next year. I’m 28, 6 years out of school (working in criminal justice reform) and desperately want to dive into law school.

I am about 50% through the core curriculum and it has taken a lot longer than I had anticipated. I am wondering if my strategy of first trying to work out the problem before watching the video is the best use of my time... Thanks.