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Hey all!
First, I'd like to thank 7sage for everything it's offered! It's been so invaluable to me. I got into a lot of schools with scholarships I can be pretty happy with.
There's only one thing; I was wait listed at my dream school (Cornell) and I'd really like to make that happen. I've been thinking about taking the June LSAT since I heard the idea, especially since I took the February one and panicked under pressure and ended up with a lot lower of a score than I had been scoring on PTs.
But how does taking the June LSAT work for wait lists? Do you have to let the school know you're going to take the LSAT and notify them when the score comes in? Should you ask the school if they'd even review a June LSAT first? And my biggest worry--if a school somehow sees on your application that you're going to take a June LSAT, do you think they'd deliberately postpone letting you off the waitlist if they might have done it sooner? I'd hate to unnecessarily prolong this process.
Anyway, regardless of what happens with Cornell, I'll be really happy to be attending Emory in the fall with a BIG scholarship that I'm pretty excited about!
Thanks so much for all your help!
In case anyone needs a brief study break: The plaintiffs' reply to Buzzfeed's Motion to Dismiss a libel case is hilarious.
http://www.businessinsider.com/buzzfeed-dossier-lawsuit-aleksej-gubarev-2017-3
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Proctors: There were about 3-4 proctors circulating the room, with 1 main proctor reading off the instructions and calling time. When monitoring us, they were very quiet and did not linger for long when passing through the tables. I don't believe I ever heard them whispering during the test either. (Granted, I was towards the back and no one near me asked questions during the test.) With enforcing the rules, I was quite surprised at how strict they were as we were only allowed to wear our jackets if the hood was tucked in. Otherwise, there were no jackets allowed on the backs of our chairs. With the exception of the timing mishap below, I would consider them to be quite good overall.
Facilities: Each floor had men's, women's, and accessible washrooms. Though there was a lineup to use them, it didn't take long as there were about 5-6 stalls available (at least for the women's side). They were very clean as well. For drinking fountains, I don't believe there were any, but you could refill your water bottle on the first floor (only if your test was on that floor) at the refill station.
What kind of room: It was a huge classroom (capacity: 188) inside the Swing Building with fixed, long tables and rotatable chairs. There are stairs to walk down to the front of the room with each level comprised of three rows of tables (i.e. smaller at both ends). In terms of wheelchair access, it is only available at the front and back of the classroom.
How many in the room: I believe there were about 6-7 rows of us with about 10 per row spaced one seat apart, so probably about 60-70 students in our room alone? We were randomly assigned to rooms when we first entered the building. I believe there were 4 rooms in total (i.e. 2 on the first floor and 2 on the second floor), though I don't know how many students were in those rooms.
Desks: These were fixed, long tables with rotatable chairs attached—the ideal desktop to do a test on because it's spacious and comfortable!
Left-handed accommodation: This was not necessary due to the long tables.
Noise levels: Minimal, especially if you've practiced with the distractions on the 7Sage proctor. As I said, I don't recall hearing any of the proctors whispering during the sections. At most, there was just the rustling of pages and the occasional cough. Students chattered a bit during the break, but it was at a tolerable noise level given testing conditions.
Parking: West Parkade is right next door and has plenty of parking space. Because it was snowing that day, there was some backup of cars prior to and after the test.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: I actually arrived at the test centre at 7:20AM and was lucky to have the building open already. Check-in started prior to 8:30AM and I believe the test commenced shortly after 9AM (due to how slow we were in the admin process).
Irregularities or mishaps: In the fourth section, the proctor forgot to call the 5-minute mark but still ended the section at the proper time. However, this caught several students off-guard, resulting in some commotion (approximately 1-2 minutes) between one student and the proctor prior to the start of the final section. The proctor told us that he could not give us more time but he would make a note of it to LSAC and we could file a complaint if need be.
Other comments: I highly recommend taking the LSAT here if you live in Vancouver!
Would you take the test here again? Definitely! In fact, I chose it over a location closer to me because I was more familiar with it and knew it would be reliable.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: February 4, 2017.
Study break/procrastination material!
This $10 million lawsuit came down to an Oxford comma, fascinating. Here's to hoping we don't make this mistake as practicing attorneys!
One of my friends would participate in coming May. It's called "Digital LSAT Pilot Test".
Hi all! I just wanted to know if any of you suggest finishing the course and THEN completing PT's along with the Blind Review as opposed to doing PT's WHILE going through the course. Thanks and happy studying!
Hello , I'm finding myself having a hard time staying motivated unfortunately . I work a 4 tour rotating shift scheduled job and sometimes lose my focus and motivating to study . Anyone have any advice to keep yourself motivated / focused on studying hard while maintain a full time job with a ridiculous work schedule ?
I need encouragement. I did so bad on my first preptest (139) and really want to reach 160. I work full time and just quit my part-time job so I can focus more on the LSAT. I currently try and study about 3 hours a day minimum and 5 hours a day mininmum on the weekends. I just ended the curriculum but with this score I'm feeling like I didn't learn anything (which I hope isn't true). My PT schedule currently is:
Saturdays: Preptest at 12PM
Sundays- Friday: Blind review/ Review my answers/ Understand what I got wrong
Saturdays: Repeat
I want to finish my review of my preptest tonight so I can start drilling the types of problems I'm getting wrong. Any success stories simliar to mine? I WAS thinking of the June test but with this first score I'm not sure I should anymore.
Hey all, I took the February exam and I've decided to retake in June. I've basically taken every publicly available PT so I'm concerned I won't be able to study the same way I did for February. What do you guys typically recommend for those in this situation? I know JY advocates maintaining one's PT supply but I had hoped I would only need to take the exam once. Sigh. Anyway, given where I am now how would you all suggest I study? I don't consciously remember the answers to the vast majority of questions, though I'm sure there's an unconscious element to it.
Let me know what you all think.
Really appreciate what you guys do here.
I can't call this "sage advice" since I'm not a sage, but here goes it:
After intensive prep this past fall, I scored a 169 on the December LSAT. Despite being very good at LR and RC, I had a fundamental LG weakness. I probably got 8 wrong on LG, plus 6 wrong on the other 3 sections combined.
My brain is naturally geared for all things verbal, but it's nothing special when it comes to visual tasks like LG.
For the rest of December and most of January, I took a break from LSAT. When I got back into it, I just drilled LG 4 days per week. I fool proofed everything from the earliest PT book (10 actual), including a lot of weird games. I also foolproofed the LG in the core curriculum.
All I can say is that it made a big difference. Last week I did my first PT (#42) in 3 months --- scored 170. The LR & RC skills had eroded a bit, but LG was much better. Today I did another PT (#43) -- scored 177, which is several points better than I've ever done on a PT. Not having a "bad section" is a game changer.
I didn't repeat games to the same extent that JY recommends -- I found that doing the game once, watching the video, and doing it a couple more times is usually enough for me to remember the inferences. But his broader point (remembering the inferences) still stands. I'm glad I put in the LG work (like many here on 7sage have already done in the past) and am looking forward to the June LSAT.
I am finishing up the core curriculum in the next week or two and I am wondering what I should do the days I am not taking a PT or blind reviewing. I am debating if I should work through PT 1-35 section by section to get a mix of question rather than drilling specific question types. The second option is that I purposefully did not do all of the problem sets throughout the core curriculum so I could have them to do if I needed to address specific weaknesses. I also plan on fool proofing all logic games while taking PT's. Any input on what your strategy was would be greatly appreciated!
Hey 7sage!
I took my first PT and got 161 3 weeks ago. I thought it'd be a good idea to take PT's every other day, until I learned about how harmful that may be, then I slowed down and reviewed/drilled more vigorously.
Since then, I've taken two PT's and stayed at 161 with a BR of 167/168. I am improving BR and being more vigilant about circling and taking time, but I'm still improving and it can be evidently higher.
Nonetheless, I am very discouraged about my lack of progression. I did the curriculum and I don't have one specific facet of LR that I struggle with. What I'm having trouble with is finishing LR sections, keeping focus during the LR and not freaking out halfway through. Basically, I begin getting really anxious and make stupid mistakes that compound like a snowball. LG is usually okay (timing is sometimes off) and my RC, initially my best section, is decreasing in performance because of the previous LR section that throws me off mentally.
Any words of advice and encouragement would be appreciated. I feel like I can do this but I'm having a hard time breaking through. My goal is 170+ for June.
What if I purchase the Ultimate package then decide I want the Ultimate Plus package, can I upgrade?
Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#6) over four nights (three hours per night) for seven students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.
Schedule
Session 1 - May 5, Friday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 2 - May 6, Saturday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 3 - May 7, Sunday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 4 - May 8, Monday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Cost
Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.
#Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How will you select which five students will participate?
A: Lottery. If you are interested, please comment below in this thread within 48 hours. If selected for the lottery, you'll have another 48 hours to place the deposit to reserve your spot.
Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?
A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.
Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?
A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.
Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?
A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.
Q: What materials are used in this workshop?
A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.
Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?
A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.
Q: How do I attend the workshop?
A: The workshop will be hosted on Amazon's Chime. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.
Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?
A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.
Hi everyone! I just finished my curriculum and planning on taking the June LSAT. What study schedules have worked for you and have made you successful? I'm finding it difficult to get into a rhythm
Hey everyone, I hope everyone had an awesome day!
I'm currently in a huge slump.. So about a month or two ago, I finally broke a barrier and scored a 151 (157 BR), but then my last three PT's have been a 146, 139, and 143 (I'm still using the PT's in the 40's). It sucks because I know I'm capable of doing this despite my scores being below average, and because I BR in the +150's, but these last three have been a bummer.
I am a full-time elementary teacher, I've been studying since last summer, and I feel like i'm losing momentum and dragging this thing too long. I'm not in a rush to take in June unless I miraculously around my goal of 155+, so i'm currently eyeing September to apply and be enrolled Fall 18', but I would hate to push back yet another year.
Any suggestions or advice? Anything helps. Thanks in advance, I know I can always count on the 7Sage community.
Hello guys.
I am following Starter program, but kind of feeling that I need harder problem sets.
I geared my study towards June LSAT, but recently rethought the plan, and I am still considering whether I should switch it to Sep. LSAT.
In that situation, I am considering upgrading the curriculum into higher ones that include more difficult problem sets. But my concern is whether solving many difficult problems before going to PT would be actually helpful. I think that just studying without knowing weaknesses (which are usually exposed by timed PTs) is not that efficient. Also, since for 3 months I self-studied LSAT through LSAT Trainer and feel familiar with each question type (also by help of CC) I am not sure whether I should practice each question type mode deeply by doing a lot of problem sets. (I usually get 17/18 in a LR section.)
My plan for now is to first complete CC at the Starter level, go into PTs as soon as possible and then purchasing new problem sets so that I could practice where I am weak, which will turn out by PTs.
I just want to hear what you guys think who are experienced more than me at 7sage.
Thank you.
Has anyone taken this course, went through 1L (or is currently going through it) and can give their feedback on how useful KTCOOLS/Larry Law Law is? I've searched in previous posts on 7Sage and it appears that it's mostly positive reviews, but when I go on the law forums people say that it's a waste of time/money and 0L could be spent doing something else, because apparently the things that he teaches us is already taught in 1L. Is there anyone who has already gone through 1L/is going through 1L and used KTCOOLS who can give their thoughts on the matter? Am I just being overworried about 1L? Thanks!!
Hi all,
I'm studying to take the September 2017 LSAT. I've just enrolled in the 7Sage Ultimate+ course. For those more experienced with the course, what advise would you give for someone starting out?
Should I just go through the syllabus..? Was there a particular study schedule that worked better for you?
Thanks so much!
hello, I'm using google chrome to print the preptest thats been uploaded as a secure document. But every time I press the print button, the printing "job" won't go through my printer. there isn't anything wrong with my printer since I can print other documents without any problem. Has anyone faced similar challenges? I would appreciate if anyone could share some solutions!
Hello guys.
I am a beginner in 7sages. I have studied LSAT for 3 months by LSAT Trainer. I recently found out this site and am now running on CC. I posted this because I think I need some advice on the direction of my study before I go further in the journey.
To begin with, I am currently gearing my study to June LSAT, and my average PT score goes 17/18 in LR, 19/20 in LG, and 22/23 in RC. My goal is from high 160 to low 170. Among other sections, LR keeps me from getting higher scores. The reason why I started to follow 7sages' CC was to improve my overall abilities in LR, which is the most hardest section for me in terms of accuracy and timing.
But as for RC and LG, I thought I could improve them by doing what I have done for practice. For LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked 7sages video explanation for games that I had trouble in however little that trouble is. For RC, like LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked what I got wrong.
This being said, is it a good idea for me to stop doing these and follow CC first for LG and RC?**** The reason why I ask this question is that I had not enough time to finish the whole curriculum including LG and RC before June and am just considering skipping LG and RC portions in CC. I just want to ask this question to those who found difference in 7sages curriculum especially in LG and RC.
Thank you.
I had been studying part-time for the LSAT since last September (10 hours a week) with the goal of taking it in June this year. My full-time fellowship just ended 3 weeks ago, and since then, I have been studying full-time.
I just got a full-time job offer that is scheduled to start in 2 weeks, if I were to take that job offer.
(The job is supposed to be 9-5, but emotionally draining)
Right now, I think I have a pretty good hang of LR (missing 0 to -1 per section)
RC - I think I need to refine some more strategies, but not sure how long that would take. Currently missing anywhere from -0 to -5. It's inconsistent because I don't think I have a good hang of it yet.
LG- I just started to seriously study LG about 2 weeks ago. I am still in the beginner- intermediate stage.
Basically I feel pretty comfortable with RC and LR, but not LG at this moment.
After beginning to study full-time 2 weeks ago, I have been studying 8 hrs per day for 5~6 days a week.
I am wondering if now till June is plenty of time to master LG. LG is my most troublesome section, mainly because I have focused on LR and RC a lot more. Also, although I didn't take the diagnostics test, LR and RC were sections that I felt comfortable with even from the start; LG not so much. Would 2 and a half months be plenty if I were to just focus on LG every day for 5+ hours? I am utilizing the fool proof method. My goal is to score 175+.
I am asking this because if 2 and a half months is not enough anyways, then I might as well take the job offer and take the LSAT in September. I think the worst case scenario is studying full-time for the LSAT till June, don't feel prepared, and push it back till September without a job.
I am tutoring on the side and am making a living for myself as I am studying full-time right now, but I am a bit fearful of going without a full-time job for 6+ months...
What are your thoughts?
Hey guys,
So I just wanted to get some feedback on how I should approach my issue.
I took my first timed LR section and scored only 10/25 (I only got thru the first 15questions and then guessed for the rest because I ran out of time)
However, on BR, I got 21/25. I have been going thru the core curriculum for about 6 months on and off, and made sure I really understood everything before even taking a timed section. I had plans to take a full PT36 (this weekend) but thought maybe I should take a timed LR first to get a feel for how it is before I dive into a full exam. I just feel really let down by this to be honest. I have been putting in so much work every single day (drilling, practicing, watching the videos, practicing logic). I do see improvement because on my diagnostic i got 8/25 timed and only 10/25 when I tried to BR it without any knowledge of the LSAT.
I am really struggling when it comes to timing myself. I find that I cannot read as fast, and I often reread the stimulus when timed to get a good grasp of what it is telling me.
I also took a timed PT of games section. I froze on the games where I couldn't diagram. However, when BR, I was able to do really well on that section. I practiced a lot for LG too, constantly doing games, watching videos for hours and hours. I just find this really upsetting.
I have been studying on and off for the lsat and now full time for it. I am registered for the June exam.
What I want to ask is, at this stage should I just keep BR and practice timing myself? Or go back to the CC?? I have also read thru the LSAT trainer and reviewed the CC twice (second time just skilling thru the materials).
I feel like I have a good grasp of the core material, i'm just struggling to apply it when timed. I would really appreciate any feedback on what I should do.
Thank you :)
Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#5) over four nights (three hours per night) for five students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.
Schedule
Session 1 - April 28, Friday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 2 - April 29, Saturday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 3 - April 30, Sunday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Session 4 - May 1, Monday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)
Cost
Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.
#Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How will you select which five students will participate?
A: Lottery. If you are interested, please comment below in this thread within 48 hours. If selected for the lottery, you'll have another 48 hours to place the deposit to reserve your spot.
Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?
A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.
Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?
A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.
Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?
A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.
Q: What materials are used in this workshop?
A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.
Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?
A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.
Q: How do I attend the workshop?
A: The workshop will be hosted on Amazon's Chime. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.
Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?
A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.