Hi all,

Have anyone experienced a significant drop in your RC scores from PT 60s to 70s?

Do you think RC passages in 70s are harder than those in 60s?

Hi guys,

I've been reading up on personal statements and seem to be finding some conflicting information on whether or not the personal statement needs to address "why law."

Berkeley seems to suggest that the personal statement does not have to touch on why you're interested in law - "You don't have to write about your interest in the law. In fact, your statement will probably be more memorable if you don't!" However, other sources seem to suggest that the whole point of the personal statement is to talk about why you're interested in law."

Ideally I understand that the best case scenario is if the two happen to coincide, and your personal statement happens to explicitly or implicitly relate why you want to do law, but what happens if the story or stories you want to tell reveal growth that doesn't necessarily explicitly explain "why law"? Does anyone have any insight on this / or have any examples of essays that have worked (and how much or how little they addressed "why law"? Wondering if @david.busis has any words of advice. Thank you!

Hey folks,

I could use some help here deciding what to do re: scores, tests, prep $, etc.

I self-studied for the Sept 2016 LSAT. I decided to take it pretty quickly and chose the date as a drop-dead to push myself to committing to law school (vs. continuing to stall.) Using a combo of the Trainer, 7sage free game videos, and the PS Bible for LR, I was PTing ~168-171 on the few tests I took, losing my points in LGs (too slow!) and the curvebuster LRs. I did NOT do the thing where I waited to take the actual LSAT until I had the score I wanted; my PTs had not yet plateaued, I still hadn't cracked the games, and I was continuing to add points in timed sections. I don't think I did that well on the actual test and am debating retaking and if I did I would want to add another tool. I have a splitter GPA for my stretch schools (3.66), am an older student, and can imagine how a higher score could really change my options (although, at the same time, I am still deciding what I actually want.)

I don't have a lot of $ though, especially since for a variety of technicalities I don't qualify for a LSAC fee waiver and am worried about application fees at this point. My gut would be to go with the Starter Course for the Core Curriculum, but I worry that I won't need a lot of it and that because it is mostly the easier drill qs and older tests I will not be getting what I need most. My other option would be to get the LG Bible, buy some more practice tests, and really focus on games and the hardest LR qs self-studying.

I would love to hear from some folks with this profile about which course they decided to take with 7sage (if any at all.) I could figure out how to make some money to at least lessen the blow for getting one of the more expensive courses, and I understand the reasoning behind "$800 now vs. thousands later," but now is also now and baby's gotta eat.

Thoughts? Your time is much appreciated.

Consider this:

“The reason why people give up so fast is because they tend to look at how far they still have to go, instead of how far they have gotten.”

Feel free to share your dose of motivation :)

Do you guys know where I can find JY's videotape doing an actual long LSAT test? I think it would be good to know how he manages time. Thanks a lot!

I consistently finish LR around 6 minutes early when I'm doing it timed and I get around 158-160.

I've taken a couple PTs untimed and I finished the LR sections around 5 minutes past the time limit and I got 165-167.

Clearly time is very important...I'm not sure if I'm just in panic mode and rushing through it or if I just need more practice pacing myself? I do look at my timer a couple times but usually it just encourages me to speed up rather than slow down

Any advice?

Hey guys!

I really want to upgrade today and get back into the grind, but I'm confused about what the Ultimate+ package includes-- are the lesson materials all printed out? On the purchase screen it says I need to purchase preptests on my own, which I am fine with, but do I need those preptests to start today / get into the grind of the lessons? Thanks!

The September exam has come and gone; for me, it was my second take. Honestly, I wasnt too confident about my take due to the laquer passage and thr virus game. I was wondering when would be a good time to start studying again, just in case I need to retake a third time. Should I study again on Gray Day? Although having a much needed rest after studying 2 years is enjoyable, some part of me is concerned about my skills becoming rusty during the 3 week time period.

A lot people say after studying for a while they have those "click" experience...

After how many PTs/questions/months you studied? When did this experience happen?

I wonder how it feels...I also see someone said they "smell" which answer is right/wrong.

How can people do this? By just seeing the question stem??

Thanks

Hi 7sage community! I'd like some advice before I hire a tutor to help me achieve a higher lsat score. I am not opposed to spending the money, but I would just like to hear any input sages or mentors or anyone else has to offer before.

I started seriously studying in May, 2016. My first PT was a 155. Since then my best has been a 162. My RC has always been strong but I still get anywhere from 3 to 6 wrong. I have made tremendous progress in Logic games. I'm definitely proud of that. I can solve basically any game. The problem is timing. Lastly, LR is hit or miss for me. I have also improved my comprehension and the ability to zero in on what the argument is and what its support is. However, my timing is off. Recently, I've been trying to do the first 10 questions in 10 minutes. I've also been marking obviously wrong answers much quicker and spending less time reading all the answer choices in depth.

However, I am worried. I am registered for December but have absolutely no problem with postponing until February. I work full-time but I am motivated and committed. When I made that first jump, I was happy but I'm eager now to see another big improvement soon, hopefully into the late 160s.

I have 23 PTs left. When I started out I did not have a plan to use my resources as most efficiently as possible. But now I am much more cognizant of those resources. So I've been spending time drilling the the PTs under 38.

I finished the 7sage curriculum and I'm just not sure where to go from here. I liked that there was a schedule. I think another schedule might help but I think I also need strategy in order to create that schedule.

Any thoughts? I know Nicole Hopkins says she is particularly good at these organizational skills. Anyone else in this position?

I don't want to "waste" ANY PTs and I do want to score above 170. I believe I can but I'm lacking strategy.

Thoughts?

If I purchase the stater course, can I upgrade to the next level for the cost of the difference? If I can upgrade, will the difference of extended duration be added to my existing duration?

Ideally I would like to purchase the stater course, work my way through the material and then upgrade and repeat.

Hello I have been following the blind review method and studying for 4 months (post-completion of CC) and I have been progressively getting worse at LGs. I am trying to really stay positive but I am not only taking so much longer to solve questions I am getting so many wrong. I had seen improvements all along but now, no matter what question I solve, I fail miserably. Anyone have any advice to get out of this rut!?

I would really appreciate any tips or expereiences!

thank you :)

Hi! We're all obviously very heavily invested in our PS's and I thought it would be extremely useful to have semi-anonymous feedback from each other. Would anyone be interested in swapping and reviewing?

Also, if anyone has any knowledge on this, are there any differences in what different law schools look for in the PS?

For me, it's being able to do something I've wanted to do since I was 5 years old

Update: We’ve moved this webinar from Wednesday to Thursday, October 13.

7Sagers,

On Thursday, October 13, at 9 pm EST, I’ll do another round of live lightning consultations.

What’s a lightning consultation? Basically, I’ll try to be as helpful as I can in five minutes. We might brainstorm personal statement topics, strategize about addenda, or discuss LORs.

If you want a free five-minute consultation about your law school application, I’ll need you to post a few things in the comments section:

I’ll get through as many people as I can in one hour, working in a mostly random order. Please don’t post to this thread if you can’t show up for the consultation. If you do show up, test your microphone beforehand. Make sure you have a strong connection to the internet, and that you can speak and be heard on GoToMeeting. If your microphone isn’t working, I’ll have to skip you.

1. Please join my meeting, Oct 13, 2016 at 9:00 PM EDT.

https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/144445485

2. Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended. Or, call in using your telephone.

Dial +1 (571) 317-3122

Access Code: 144-445-485

Audio PIN: Shown after joining the meeting

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Hey guys, any tips on balancing these three tasks? Am I the only one who has a difficult time balancing and prioritizing?

I was just wondering if anyone else goes through this... Sometimes, 1. while taking a PT, I lose concentration during certain portions of the test, which end up hurting my score. Does this happen to you? How do you stay focused throughout the entire test? And 2. During Logic Games, the time pressure makes me miss questions I should have easily gotten correct. When i go back to BR, it really confuses me how I miss some of the questions because I completely see my mistakes when I BR. Anyway, this is pretty frustrating because when I have days where I focus better, I usually score at the higher end of my range, and it's just frustrating to not consistently score as high as I can.

Hi, I just have a brief question. I just looked at my school's office of registrar site and found out that gpa of 3.5 is equivalent to a letter grade of A-. According to LSAC gpa conversion chart, it is stated that A- starts from 3.67. Does this mean that my 3.5 gpa gets converted to starting from 3.67? Thanks.

Which PTs should I use to study for December? I've only done 12, and December is a rewrite for me, so I've pretty much finished studying, and I want to focus as much as I can on PTs and improving my weaknesses. Also, which order should I do the PTs in, and how many per week from now until December? My ideal score is a 155-157, so you guys don't need to worry about where I'm at in terms of PTing (in case anyone was suggesting to postpone), I tend to get around that score fairly consistently, but there are random times (3 times) where I get like a 152-154. I'm also pretty much ALWAYS going -12 to -14 on RC, how can I improve this in 2 months time? Would you guys suggest trying to implement the Memory Method? I'm kinda stumped.

PTs Completed:

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What is "confirmantion letter"?

When do they upload it?

Is it a letter that tells us which test test center we are assigned to?

It says "granted" on the other letter they uploaded, but it also says they will send/upload cinfirmation letter...what is this?

Thanks,

The Mobile site and App was not working for me this morning on two different iOS devices. Anyone else have this issue?

Hi,

For those who are in any 7sage courses, do you listen to all of his PT explanations?

(I mean PT you have done)

Or just questions you were not sure or got wrong?

I'm just wondering how other people use the explanations and resources.

Thanks!

I had been doing practice tests consistently prior to finishing the core curriculum. My diagnostic was "150". Since then, I have scored 155, 157, 154, and 157. Today, after finally finishing the core curriculum I took my first practice test and scored a measly 152. However, my blind review score was 163. While Logical reasoning is typically my strongest section(-4/-5), this time I performed very weakly as there was a bunch of questions in which the timer went off before I was able to answer. I personally think its because for a couple of weeks I hadn't been looking at any of the logical reasoning stuff as I was focusing on logic games which is typically my weakest section. I actually performed better on logical games that I usually do missing ten questions. While this is overall very low, it is an improvement for me. Is this a case of working to improve on my strength which is logical reasoning? I have roughly two months until I take the lsat in december. I have access to every lsat prep test ever made. What study routine do you think could help me achieve optimal performance?

I'm starting to retake some of the tests that I took a few months ago and already entered into the 7sage analytics feature...is there a way to enter the answers I have for retakes into 7sage without deleting the information from a few months ago? I figure it could be helpful to compare the two...thanks!

I was hoping to get some advice from those of you who have been studying for a while.

I recently finished the CC and have done 2 PTs. I see LG as a major area of opportunity as I consistently do not get to 1-2 games. I saw on the boards that many people recommend full proofing games 1-34 so I've started doing these as timed sections. I've gone through 2 timed sections, alongside the 2 from the recent PTs.

I have not finished any timed sections but I do, of course, finish them during my BR. I don't have accuracy issues as I expect is normal once a game "clicks". I then like to do the section again (sometimes directly after, other times after several hours or the next day) and I have found that I am able to finish with 5-10+ minutes to spare. Next, I check JY's videos - for these past sections, my strategy and timing line up with his recommendations.

Should I still be printing the games from the recent sections out 10 times if I'm able to move through them with confidence on R2? During the CC I full proofed any games that I struggled with but those generally did not come to me in R2 and I did not hit the recommended timing. I'm taking the December test and want to use my time as wisely as possible (I can't believe how close it is!).

Separately, I'm considering taking a video of myself doing the sections. I suspect that I spend a lot of time understanding the game layout. For more complex games, I often have to re-read the set up that comes before the rules several times to understand what is being asked of me and how the game pieces interact. Unfortunately, I already know these things when I re-take the sections so I can't push myself further here. How have others overcome this?

Any advice would be much appreciated!