Hey guys, I'm doing an LSAT webinar for an MSU Law School event next Wednesday.

To prepare, I thought I'd do a dry run here. If you've studied for say more than a month, then this is going to bore your face off. Like the title says, this is "Intro to LSAT".

But, in case you're here and just happen to be getting started with the LSAT, you might find this helpful.

Details below. I fully expect attendance to be low and that's fine. Like, if no one shows up, I'm going to have fun talking to myself for 45 minutes. Honestly, that's what I do for hours and hours every day anyway. There will be a Q&A at the end of the session.

Mon, Oct 3, 2016 4:30 PM - 5:15 PM PDT

(That's 7:30pm - 8:15pm EST)

Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.

https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/625718861

You can also dial in using your phone.

United States +1 (571) 317-3122

Access Code: 625-718-861

Hi there!

This was my first time taking the LSAT. When we receive the scores in a couple weeks, will we also be able to see the questions/passages/games and such, or will we only see the score?

Thank you!

Hello all, I hope September went well for all the LSAT test takers out there. I have been having a bit of a "mindset" issue lately if you will. As for everybody, studying for the LSAT is accompanied by highs and lows within the study process. I have been pretty good at keeping a positive mindset but lately whenever I think of the big picture as a whole and where I want to be and where I am at now I start to question whether I have what it takes and if I really CAN pull it off and I guess my question is how do you guys keep a positive mindset? I find it a lot easier to study when I am positive but lately it's been pretty easy to doubt myself and if I can even make it. Any tips or suggestions would really be appreciated. Anything at all.

Hi,

After you do PTs, how do you review RC sections?

Do you re-do RC sections like you do for LG sections?

What is the best way to review it to increase scores...??

Thanks!

Proctors: Three (very professional and quiet) proctors per room.

Facilities: Right across from the testing room, lots of stalls, clean, and they all have water fountains next to them.

What kind of room: Very large, the center is in a lecture hall. We had those long desks that were very spacious. I’m a desk hog and love my space, so this left me at ease.

How many in the room: There’s like 5 rooms of students, each room had approx. 25 students. It didn’t bother me though because these halls are meant to fit 150-200 students.

Left-handed accommodation: I would assume so since the desks weren’t individualized.

Noise levels: silent, few coughs. practically felt like I was using the 7sage proctor app (shameless advertising lol)

Parking: Very convenient and what I mean by that is the lot is huge and walking distance to the center is 3-5 minutes.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 20 minutes driving; barely any traffic.

Irregularities or mishaps: One girl had her cell phone and the proctor just told her to turn it off and keep it in her pocket lol. Another time the proctor gave us the 5 minute warning at the wrong time, and because of this I think she may have given us 45-60 seconds extra. Wouldn’t know, I didn’t use an analog watch at the time smh.

Other comments: This center is my alma mater and I’ve taken courses in the building where the LSAT is administered in.Needless to say that’s what makes it very comforting for me and that’s where I do timed PTs to imitate test day conditions. I also appreciate that there’s like 5 vending machines for drinks, quick breakfasts and snacks and a mini lounge area to chill in before taking the LSAT.

Would you take the test here again? For sure.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Sept 2014, Feb 2016, TBD.

Hi guys,

So I've been studying on an off since last summer. I took the exam in February but deep down inside I knew that I was unprepared. This time around I've been studying a lot more. Bought books, took a prep course, and took a ton of PT's but for some reason I still cant raise my score. I know how to approach every type of problem when attack the questions one by one but for some reason I have trouble doing that when I am taking a full PT. Every PT I take i plateau at 148. When I BR'd or took a timed section Individually I went up as high as 164. Any tips on how to break through the plateau? Im taking my exam in December! thanks!

Hey everyone, my scores on practice exams have been going down :/ I'm still early in my prep and I know I have enough time between now and December to improve big time, but yeah it don't feel too good when your average scores seem to be going down.

Anyway, my question is does anybody have a review process for practice exams that helped them improve on their weak points? What I mean is for example, what I currently do is go over all the questions I got wrong in LR, make note of the type and numbers of each type I got wrong, then revisit the corresponding lessons. That and also the 7sage method for LG (which is my weakest section it seems).

I thought maybe switching over to a different review strategy would be beneficial, since like I said my scores have been going down. So if anybody minds sharing their review process I'd really appreciate it. Or if you have any suggestions to improve the one I wrote about above that'd be awesome too.

Hi guys,

I'm debating on whether to take the December or February LSAT. I feel like I'm not going to be fully ready to get my maximum score but, I'm nervous to be applying too late because I would like to be enrolled in law school by Fall 2017.

Hey guys,

I was talking to my friends about some comments I saw on the LSAT Reddit that, out of context, sounded really silly. Thought I'd share them all with you, too. ;) (Also quit stressing! I'm sure you did fine and if not, it's not the end of the world. There's always next time.)

Those of you who took the September LSAT will be very familiar with these quotes. Enjoy!

Warning: Some posts may have foul language. Expect it.

And, finally:

A

Anyone excited? I kind of regret pushing it back because I haven't been able to study much, with my 21 credit load but there is plenty of time from now until December.

Proctors: Experienced professionals. Absolutely silent during test.

Facilities: Fine, it's an older building but restrooms were clean, close, and large enough to accommodate everyone. Proctors asked us about room temperature before test and after returning from break and adjusted according to our feedback. Test room big and spacious with lots of light and nothing to distract.

What kind of room: Big amphitheater layout.

How many in the room:10 - 20

Desks: Very large desks running the length of the room. More space than you could ever use. I probably had about 10 yards of desk space all to myself. Comfortable chairs and lots of room between test takers.

Left-handed accommodation: I'm not entirely sure what this means, but each test taker had so much space on either side that I can't imagine that any further accommodation would be possible.

Noise levels: Silent.

Parking: Plenty of parking immediately in front of building, except Oct 2015 when there was a football game that day. Always check the football schedule at any university with a team if testing in the fall. As far as that went, there was adequate parking about 5-10 minutes walk from the test center, which was kind of nice actually.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Pretty quick, about 30-40 minutes maybe.

Irregularities or mishaps: Across 3 takes, they forgot the five minute warning once. It happens: They got 17/18, so that seems within an acceptable margin of error to me. They also let one guy go to the bathroom between checking in and the test starting. Seems perfectly reasonable to me, but technically a violation. On my last take they said to put our pencil sharpeners away, lol. She said she didn't want us wasting time on sharpening pencils (which I agree with, you shouldn't do), but technically we are allowed to have our sharpeners on our desk. They had brought lots of sharpened pencils for us and made sure everyone without lots of pencils of their own had enough that they would not need to sharpen. Kind of sweet actually, but I would have liked to have my pencil sharpener just out of a sense of comfort.

Other comments: This is my alma mater which gave me a huge sense of familiarity. I felt right at home and I think this is a significant factor in choosing a test center. I'd only rank it below big desks and good proctors. There's enough test day stress without having to figure out where you're going. If your alma mater isn't an option though, or if the facilities aren't adequate, you can't go wrong with Southern Miss.

Would you take the test here again?

Absolutely.

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

Oct 2015

Dec 2015

Sept 2016

JUNE 2016

Proctors: One was a nice professor. He was strict but not intense. He had a somewhat calming presence and an accent. The second proctor (she mainly floated around the room, didn't read aloud) made many noises throughout the test, ate very loudly while we were working.

Facilities: Huge building with lots of parking. Inside is very clean and there are restrooms everywhere. Also, there are vending machines and couches, which was nice during the break. There's a Dunkin Donuts at the entrance, as well. The building is a little bit like a maze, but all staff is friendly and helpful.

What kind of room: Standard high school classroom but with large desks.

How many in the room: 4 people. I heard there were others with around 10, though. Each classroom had about 35 desks, so we were pretty spread out

Desks: Really big but attached to the chairs, which was annoying.

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: My room was directly across from the public safety desk, so we heard walkie talkies BLEEPing the whole time.

Parking: There is a large parking garage directly next to the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: about 5 hours including waiting in line but not sure

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments: I chose to drive home from college (5ish hours) to take it here again! Had an even better experience my second time.

Would you take the test here again? Yes, and I did.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 6, 2016

Hey Everyone! I'm new to the 7sage community and I'm so happy that I signed up! I took a 2 and half month classroom course this past summer which ended 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately, it wasn't as helpful as I had hoped and I didn't increase my score at all (considering I didn't take that many prep tests). However, since beginning the 7sage curriculum, it seems as if I have learned far more then in 2 weeks then I did in that entire course. Wish I would've started this earlier!

Anyways, my diagnostic test was a 141, which I was extremely disappointed about. I took a second PT after a month and a half and scored a 133 because my instructor told me to just focus on the first half of every section. I haven't taken another PT since. I plan on taking the June 2017 LSAT. I've read on various forums that it's impossible to break the 170s with such a low diagnostic (personally, now that I have 7sage, I don't think it is). However, with dedicated and deliberate prep, realistically speaking, is it possible for me to score in the high 160's (165-169) or even break 170's with about a year prep? (Sept. 2017 LSAT).

And, anyone who has done this, how long did you study? How many hours a week, on average? What other resources beside 7sage? How did you schedule your prep/time management? Did you have a study buddy? Any other commitments besides prep? (I'm a full time senior in undergrad). How did you avoid burnout? Did you plateau or hit a ceiling, and how did you break through?

Sorry for the long question, just trying to set realistic expectations so that I can set some effective study goals. Thanks for your help!!

I'll get straight into it. I have no problem getting the correct level 1, 2, 3 star questions (as labelled by 7sage), but i tend to get level 4 and 5 questions wrong more times than not.

This applies to both logical reasoning and reading comprehensions

For logical reasoning i would get questions ranging from 16-25 wrong and for reading comprehension, just when i think i am going to get all the correct answers for a particular passage correct, i end up finishing 5/6 , 5/7, or 6/7 ....

its difficult to diagnose exactly why i got it wrong...

lack of TRUE understanding of the passage/stimulus?

time pressure?

misread?

etc etc etc

Point is, i am not sure and because i am not sure i fall repeatedly into getting these 4 level and 5 level difficult questions wrong.

I feel like i am at a point where if i can just have this one last breakthrough and conquer these 4 and 5 level questions that i will be well on my way to consistently get the score i want with confidence.

Can anyone share how they overcame this temporary hurdle?

So I made a slight bubbling error during games. I caught it, corrected it, and moved on. Didn't think about it again until today. Now I'm eaten alive with paranoia that I messed up the at least half the section (the error happened about halfway down) and that I went -12 or -13 on LG.

Is this wait making me misremember things? Or did I f*** up my entire test?

Does anyone else have an experience like this?

Hey guys!

This past test I know for a fact that my essay was written terribly. My reasoning was not strong at all and I wrote only until the halfway point of the back page. Not being hard on myself at all-- this essay really was a piece of junk. I plan to take the test again in December, and I'm going to make sure that not only my score improves tremendously (definitely scored ~153 on this one) but also that I write a whole lot better to make up for this first try. Trying my hardest to rebound from a pretty bad test overall. Does that sound reasonable?

Thanks so much!

Bill J. Priest Institute for Economic Development in Dallas, MONDAY TEST, 9/26/16

Proctors: one woman. Did not remember she was offering the exam and arrived 30 minutes late. I don't want to go into too much detail, the case is under review. She was very nice but should not have been an exam proctor. She also did not have a registry to check me in. She read the instructions very quietly, and had I not known what they were, I would not have heard her. See more below.

Facilities: bathroom was a ways down the hall but good, room was all right. Room was very large, windows in the back. Standard elementary school desks, maybe about 20 in the room. Desks were small and did not have space to spread out-- had to slide my answer sheet under my exam when not bubbling. Big, nice cafeteria on the floor with lots of vending machines, and a nice set of couches to wait at.

Room next door to mine was under construction during the exam.

How many in the room: just me.

Left-handed accommodation: I didn't look, and I am not left handed.

Noise levels: construction for the first 10 minutes, then my proctor turned on a noise canceling machine which drowned it out. Proctor talked to herself during the exam, but the room itself was quiet.

Parking: Parking was good, but I was also the only one testing. I didn't look to see if there was more around the corner, because there were only a few spots immediately in front of the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: got there at 8:20, Testing started at 9:45, then section 1 maybe at 9:55/10? Test ended at 1:40.

Irregularities or mishaps: I showed up at 8:20, ticket said arrive by 8:30 and meet in the lobby. No one was there, no one in the building even knew what the LSAT was. Security guard pulled up a schedule to check for me and said the test was only on Saturday and there was no record of anything that day. We called the LSAC and they confirmed I had my test there but would not speak to me more because it was after 8:30 and I would not have been allowed my phone had I been taking the scheduled test. I was a hysterical mess, and thankfully my mom had driven me, so she was corraling staff to help search for my proctor.

At 9, a woman arrived and acted like nothing happened. I believe the LSAC contacted her and sent her down. My mom says she thinks the LSAC woke her up. She was nice, but come on. She had the three of us-- me, mom, her-- sit and have oatmeal before my test, which was helpful because I had been hysterically crying until then. When my mom left, we started. She wouldn't let me have any water during the exam, but she ate some chips and talked to herself a lot during the test. There was construction in the room next door which started when I started section 1, but again, my proctor put on a noise canceling machine.

Would you take the test here again?

Maybe? If I knew for a fact the proctor knew to give me a test and showed up on time and they weren't doing construction, yeah. All of those seemed to be unique to my situation, and I highly doubt they will be repeated. All my misfortune aside, my biggest complaint was that the desks were smaller than I'd like, but they were definitely usable-- I didn't have to fold my exam or anything. I appreciated that they offered noise canceling machines.

Date of Exam: 9/26/16

Hi, first time poster long time lurker here..

I just wrote my LSAT a few days ago after studying on and off for over a year.

I'm certain I did not do well though because of messing up pretty majorly on the LG and RC section.

I think I had some anxiety and completely froze up when it came to the Logic Games section and spent way too much time overanalyzing the first two games and was only able to finish 2 1/2 of the games so that left me guessing the rest of the questions and the last game. I was really bummed about this because the games themselves did not seem like they were too difficult but the pressure just really got to me and I had to re-read things over and over and just psyched myself out.

How can I get more confident and faster at the LG games? I've printed out all the games that JY has talked about in the curriculum and have been redoing them but if I encounter something new I always freeze.

RC was also a struggle for me and I only got through 3/4 passages and completely guessed on the fourth passage. The timing just really screws me over where I only get through 3 of the 4 passages even when doing my practice tests. Can someone please provide me with some advice on how I can get through all 4 passages?

I'm pretty certain at this point I will cancel my score because I don't want to screw myself in case I get a really low score. I would like to retake and do the December LSAT after working on these weaknesses. I only have a few months left so I want to make good use of my time.

Any insight would be appreciated!

Hey I am having a tough time with sufficient assumptions for some reason. Did anyone else have a harder time with them and find a resource that really helped? it just isn't clicking yet. Any suggestions? thanks in advance

So they have those superprep I and II...I read some of their explanations but wonder whether I should read all of them.

Do you think they are helpful in knowing how they design the questions and what their thought process is?

(How they get to the correct answers etc.)

Thanks!

What is 7sage contact info?

When I studied for other tests, people suggest to read questions first.

Why we should not do the same for this test?

What makes this test different from others?

(Do you read questions first for other tests or not?)

Hi everyone!

I just took the test for the first time this past weekend, and to be honest, I know for a fact I scored ~155 (or lower :(). It really was the nerves for me, as I had been scoring ~160 previously. That being said, I'm preparing for the December test now, and am aiming for 167+ to make up for this initial score (lofty goal I know, but I just started 7Sage and have got to say the methods are way better than the other company I was with!!!).

I read on another discussion that it's best to get your non-LSAT application components submitted by December for this application cycle, and just put a "hold" on your LSAT score. This being said, I have a couple questions:

1) If I don't cancel this first score yet I finish the other parts of the application, will admission committees see my first score of 155? Or will they wait until Jan 5 (or whenever the Dec test score is released) to look at my application for the first time? I would just hate for them to first see my application with this first LSAT score....

2) Does it look bad to start the applications now, yet submit them in December, or worst case, January? I haven't dared to touch the "start application" button on any of my LSAC saved schools, as I'm unsure exactly what they think of this. Nonetheless, I really want to see all the prompts so that I can start thinking about what I should write about!

Any advice would be so helpful, thank you guys so much!

so what do you guys think? when is it coming?