I think there should be...or it could be this. Just wondering though.

Did anyone take notes for @"Cant Get Right"'s webinar about what to do after you finish the CC? I'm just finishing going through the CC again and want to begin taking PTs soon, but I really wanted to follow the "phases" of study outlined in this webinar. Unfortunately, it's not up in the webinar section and I forgot to take notes when I attended :(

I wanted so badly to burn them, but those just getting started came to mind. Kim and Bible Trilogy 2016, like new, because I relied mostly on JY. I also have every preptest available, but they are obviously used. PM me if interested. Just trying to help a fellow grinder out. BTW, I got into my top choice with a half-scholly!

Any thoughts or input on the best way to bubble? After every question, after every page, or after every two-page spread, or any others? I've tested out those three methods so far but so far none of them seem to be substantially better than the rest, because there seem to be different pros and cons for each.

I've also skimmed through the past discussions, but still can't make up my mind about it.

Also, my two cents: -after every question- feels ever so slightly less stressful, but -after every two-page spread- doesn't break rhythm/pace as much.

Thoughts? Thanks!

"Having an efficient, attractive subway system makes good economic sense."

EAS = efficient, attractive subway system

GES = Good economic sense

I interpret this sentence as EAS being a subset of GES. Therefore, EAS --> GES.

However, as with any sentence lacking universal indicators, there is lots of ambiguity here. But I'm not sure that squashes the conditionality. Nevertheless, in the video explanation below, JY illustrates this sentence as "GES (eas)".

I would love any input on this specific instance as well as guidance for interpreting conditionality without indicators in general. As well as the difference between "EAS --> GES" and "GES (eas)". Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/attractive-subway-system-sa-question/#comment-56183

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For my most recent PTs, I scored 159-167-159-167-157. I am frustrated at the huge fluctuations in my scores and starting to feel burnt out. I am planning to take the September test. I have studied for the LSAT with a full time job that usually takes around 45-60 hours depending on the week.

I have been studying for the LSAT for around 1.5 years now, with a 3 month break in between moving overseas. I started at a 146 diagnostic, and finished the 7sage Curriculum around last July/August. Long story short, after moving overseas, I made the decision to take a Princeton Review course class on site hoping to review the fundamentals again and taking some PTs on site (not sure if this was a good decision...) During the several PTs I took at the Princeton Course, I realized my weakness was in Logic Games (-10) and LR (-8-10) and scored in a range of mid 50s.

After taking the two month course, I started drilling Logic Games for several weeks with a Games Packet from PT1-35 organized by game type and difficulty (did around 3 copies each or more, watching 7sage videos for each). After finishing Games, I did a question type drilling for LR on my own using a similar LR packet I received during the course (1-35). I felt comfortable to move onto PTing after these drills.

I took 16 PTs so far since late January starting with PT 44 and finished PT 61 today (I didn't start in late 30s because I had exposure to some late 30s during the Princeton course). With my work schedule, I did one timed PT on a weekend day and BRed throughout the week. By early March until late April, I pulled my score to a 160-163 range. Then this month, after scoring a 159, I had the fluctuation between 159-167. Ever since starting BE, my BR score has been in the 168-174 range. The reasons for my most recent drops to 159/157 have usually resulted from a drop in Games (-7 to -10, from my earlier ranges of -4 to -6 with sometimes -1,-2). My LR also fluctuates between -3 to -8. My 167s have been good luck with RC (-1), Games (-1/-2) and performing better than usual for LR (got -5/-2 compared to usual -5/-4 range). I might generally be scoring in the late 50s-early 60s range and just had good luck for the two 167s, but my BR scores have always been in the higher range. I BR all circled questions and am very diligent with the review.

At this point, I'm scared of using up more 60 PTs before moving onto the 70s if I'm having fluctuations like this. It's difficult to explain how I feel about Games - I felt much more confident back when I first started PTing after doing the month drilling, and I feel like my confidence got worst each month maybe psychologically zoning out from scoring bad a couple of times on the Games. Besides Games, my LR is usually pretty consistent within the -4/-5 range although I sometimes bomb it with a -8 on a section. I sometimes end up spending 8-9 minutes double checking the first game in the section, although when I do during Br, I finish a game usually within the suggested time frame. RC score mostly is -4~-6, but I sometimes got a -8 with a bad PT. I also get very nervous under time pressure in general which sometimes contributes to these low scores, and on top of that, I think burn out from my job might be an issue too (especially this month)

I'm not sure if I need to re-do the basic Game bundles again. I'm honestly not sure what I should be doing without doing any more PTs. I've tried doing 4-5 games for each game type from the Question Bank for the drilling, but not sure what would be best for game drilling and whether I should keep moving forward with the PTs after BRing or do some more basic Game/LR drills. Any advice on drilling and how to move forward with PTing (esp on whether I should re-do the basic PT 1-35 drills or focus on re-doing the PT 44-61 etc) would be helpful. Anything in all on how to close gap in actual/BR and work-studying balancing etc would be appreciated too.

Thank you!

Just took it 5 hours ago. Comment with questions you want me to cover!

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I've taken a lot of the older PT's (around 25 of them) and have taken PT 70 and 71. I am only 4 points away from my target score (160) and need some advice. I have PT 72-80 remaining and want to make use of them before the June test. I have 23 days left. How should I split up the PT's so I can properly BR?

I got a 155 on PT 71 and am studying around 8-10 hours a day. I know burnout is possible but i'm seeing improvement and need to get to my target score before June. I know I'll do it, but I also wanted to ask what my chances are of actually hitting a 160 on PT.

Thanks

So during my first time studying for the LSAT, I took 2 PT's in preperation (64 and 66); both were about a year ago. Now that I'm slowly entering the PT phase, how inflated would my score be if I took them later on in the process? I never did a comprehensive review of them (I had no idea what I was doing lol) so I don't know how much I will remember them.

Thoughts?

Fellow 7sagers,

I took LSAT in 2015 and scored 166. I decided not to apply that year because of some personal reasons. I am taking the test in September and will apply this cycle.

I am slowly going through CC right now (my school is on the quarter system) and getting most of the difficult LR problems right (I sometimes miss 1 out 5 on those level 5 questions).

I wonder how people blend in other LR materials (Manhattan LR and Trainer [I read older versions while preparing for the first time]). Do you read MLR and Trainer while going through CC?

Ideas and tips are highly appreciated!

Finishing the curriculum is an enormous accomplishment and you should be proud of yourself when you reach that milestone. But it can quickly start to feel a lot like this:

https://media4.giphy.com/media/L6EoLS78pcBag/200.gif#2

The curriculum provides step by step instruction, not only on the concepts that must be mastered to beat the LSAT, but also on knowing exactly what to be doing in order to progress through your studies. Now that you're done, you're going to have to determine that for yourself, and how well you do that is enormously consequential. It is different for everyone, so this will not be ABC instructions to what to do after the curriculum. Rather, I hope it can serve as a guide for identifying the most effective study strategies for yourself based on your individual level and performance.

So I'm Done with the Curriculum. Now What?

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Hi all, I usually wouldn't post on here for advice but I've had no luck talking with my school advisers, and I come from a family of farmers so they don't really know how to help me either.

Essentially, I currently have two choices/paths to take for graduation and attendance to law school, and I would like to hear some of y'alls input if possible. Many of you seem to be much more knowledgeable about the law school game than I am. Here's my situation:

I'm currently in my senior year of undergrad, studying a double major in Finance and Accounting. I currently maintain a 3.9 GPA (this becomes relevant later), and I have two choices for graduation, Spring 2018 or Fall 2017. Both have different advantages/shortcomings.

Spring: If I graduate in the Spring, I will be able to participate in a few programs at my school that I believe would improve my resume. First, I could write an 'Honors Thesis' and graduate with an honors degree. This would modify only one of my bachelors degrees. (i.e., I would have an Honors Finance degree and a regular Accounting degree, or vice versa). If I don't write the thesis, I will still complete an 'Honors Certificate'. In addition to this, I've also been given the opportunity to participate in a student lead investment fund at my school. This program is fairly competitive, and only 25-30 people are chosen each year to participate. As far as I am aware, the program is fairly prestigious as it is one of the largest student ran investment funds in the nation. The downside to this, is that the professor who runs the investment fund program is notorious for being a strict grader, and I know many very smart people who've had their GPA take a significant dip because of this program. I've calculated it out, and if I take the class I'll probably drop to a 3.85-3.87 GPA if I take this course (the professor basically does not award any As).

Fall: If I graduate fall semester, I will not be able to write a thesis or participate in the investment fund program. This will undoubtedly give me more time to study for the LSAT, as all of my fellow students say both programs require significant time investments. In addition to this, if I graduate a semester early I have the opportunity to apply for some scholarships to study abroad. I've studied Mandarin Chinese as a second language, and I hope to one day work in niche Corporate/Tax Law involving the U.S. and China. I've spoken to the directors of these scholarship opportunities, and I believe I have a good shot of being accepted into the program. If accepted, I would be able to spend about 7/8 months in China intensively studying the language. From my current level (HSK 5+), I believe I would be able to achieve my goal of being professionally/business proficient in the language at the end of this time period.

I'm really unsure about which path I ought to take, and I need to make a decision soon. If any of you have insight about how law school perceive these different opportunities, I would greatly appreciate it.

Hi Everyone,

With the looming June test, I thought it would be a good idea to discuss test day practices and habits. Whether you've already been in the trenches or have yet to, I'd like to get a sense of what works or has worked for people as they get themselves ready for the day and take the test. I'm sure I'll have enough things to worry about on that (fateful) day so getting a good plan in place now will surely alleviate some of that pressure. I know that no matter how much we plan, things always go awry. So, this can hopefully help people get a more practical understanding of what to expect so as to enable better preparation. While I'm planning for the September test at 8:30am, please feel free to share your experiences taking the June test at 12:30pm as well.

For one thing, I'm interested in planning out my morning. How early do you plan to wake up? How early do you plan to get to the test site? At what point do you warm-up/ review questions, right before the start of the test (in the testing center) or well in advance (before leaving your home)? What about the more trivial things that you ordinarily don't think of until you're hit with it, like how late you're allowed to use the bathroom before having to be seated to begin taking the test, etc, etc.

Hi, I've been trying to print the Prep Test, but it keeps printing were some pages are missing. Is anyone else having that issue and know how to resolve it?

So I finally got through the BR and got my results:

Actual: 148

BR: 158

I'm definitely encouraged by the BR. I have come quite far from where I was 8 months ago (sub-150) when I was attempting to fast-forward through everything. I haven't gone through the full proof method yet which hurt my LG score but I only missed one LG question on the BR so I know I can do better. I was disappointing with my RC (50%) because I have gotten as high as 70% before and I noticed during my BR that I made some really dumb mistakes. And LR...did a lot better! Both sections under time conditions were my best though I have a lot of improvements I can make.

The floor I must hit is a 161 so knowledge wise I'm very close to where I need to be (not that it is my ultimate goal) and I definitely have room to grow. I want to write in September so I definitely feel like I can do this! I have a lot of speed issues but I feel like the more PT's I get under my belt, the better I will perform (in addition to more studying lol).

I know it ain't a 170+ score but I feel like I'm heading in the right direction for the first time!

Dear All,

I would like to know if someone can describe to me how they Blind Review and/or what are the steps they take when going over an LSAT Preptest. I just want to make sure that I am doing it correctly. Many Thanks!

Was this addressed yesterday? If so, I missed it!

"Starting with the September 2017 LSAT, there will no longer be any limitations on the number of times a test taker can take the LSAT in a two-year period. LSAC has revised this policy as part of its planning for additional administrations of the LSAT. We will provide more information about the LSAT schedule in the coming weeks."

The test is going to be offered more than 4x a year (2nd & 3rd sentences)? That'll be awesome!

Just wondering if anyone is taking the patent bar this year? I am planning on taking this year and was hoping for a study buddy. Thanks.

i'm noticing a trend in my preptests:

finish a preptest feeling like i bombed it ------> usually a higher score.

finish a preptest feeling like i aced it ------> ok, but not great score.

anyone else notice any trends in their emotional state after completing a preptest?

i'm trying to use this information to train myself to ignore my self doubt after i take the actual test.

if you have already taken the lsat: did your emotional state and expectations after the test match your test score?

Hi there!

So I just came back to 7Sage to start studying for the LSAT again, and I've noticed a whole bunch has changed! I see now that many drills and problem sets are entirely printable. I also see PDF versions of PT 1-35 and 36 and onward. So I wanted to confirm, does this mean that I no longer have to buy preptests separately anymore? (I'm with Ultimate+)

Back this fall when I started this was the impression I had... but it seems that things have changed now and it's almost too good to be true! If 7Sage has all the PTs in the curriculum and I just need to print it all off, that's perfect! Just wanted someone's confirmation.... thank you so much!

Hello, I'm currently active duty in the Military and I'm not depressing until 2021. I plan on applying for the fall semester of 2021 and taking my LSAT in 2020. Aside from studying for the test, is there anything suggested for me to study/read in the meantime to prepare for law school?

Thanks!

Got nowhere to go. Need advice. I'm preparing for the Sept/ Dec 2017 test while working a demanding full time position at a law firm. This has put a significant strain on me to the point that I'm doing poorly in both despite all the incredible time and effort I've expended. I'm doing so poorly that I'm at risk of losing my job. I was told I have a month to see if things improve otherwise I'd be let go. I'm certain that my studying is the reason my performance has significantly declined. I honestly don't want to continue working knowing how important the test is but the only thing keeping me is the fact that I know I won't be able to get a reference for when it comes time to find a summer internship during law school. Most probably I'd be better off not listing this position, which now amounts to about a year and six months worth of experience, on my resume at all. If I were to stay and work, I know I could salvage myself so that I can make up for the drop in performance since I began studying. I just don't know if that's worth getting a low test score. I've already put off applying to law school for a while now and given what I've been through, which I don't want to get into, I couldn't wait another cycle even if I wanted to. I can see definite improvement with my score in the coming 4 months but it will really demand my fullest attention. Is it worth sacrificing my position now and putting myself at a significant disadvantage in finding another job so that I can devote myself to the test?

Hi Everyone! I just took my first PT after finishing the curriculum and I'm really disappointed. I had gotten a 152 on my diagnostic and I just got a 153 on my first PT. I ran out of time and I feel like I'm overthinking too much which is making me take too long on the test. Does anyone have any recommendations of what I can do? I'm going to BR it in a little bit to see if I will change answers and complete the questions I didn't have time for. I can't figure out when I should skip a question and I keep leaving a bunch until they end. Any advice would be great. I am taking the June LSAT and I'm really worried. In general, I feel like I have learned a lot and I understand, but I think the anxiety of taking the test makes me really unfocused.

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