Hello, just wanted to notify someone on 7Sage that the sound quality for the linked video (see below) is really quite terrible and hard to understand the person talking. I was wondering if you would be able to re-do the explanation on a better recording device or somehow re-work the sound on the video so it isn't as ear-shattering?

Thanks a bunch.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-4-question-03

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I have a question about when to use the chart versus the regular grouping game set up.

I’ve come up with a few indicators, please clarify the 3rd.

1) the items (variables) are mentioned as having to go “at least” once

2) you don’t know how many times each variable can go OR if each group or variable even needs to go at all

3) if each variable can only go ONCE in the group (which will have to be denoted in the rules or set up)

In the first video of this lesson (fruit cup, hot dog, sheeshkabob, etc) you explain how the first rule is basically saying that you can’t put double Fruit cup’s in any one particular cell. However, in the second game in the lesson (patients, fever, headache, sneezing) I can’t seem to find a similar rule… I understand intuitively that you can’t have double fever, or double headaches, lol, but in the lsat world, we’re never suppose to use an intuitive, common sense approach to anything, it seems.

ALSO, is this last indicator (i.e. the only 1 variable PER CELL rule) the reason WHY we did NOT use a chart on the october 2012 game (subzones, retail, housing, industrial)? If we did use a chart, then we would have HH or RRR in one cell, and that would not be correct?

Also, that OCTOBER 2012 GAME 4 IS RIDICULOUSLY TOUGH.

I started training for the LSAT a year ago, and after that time, my score has increased from an abysmal 137 to 160. I initially completed the BluePrint course, and after studying meticulously all of their material and hiring several of their tutors, my score wasn't moving beyond 159/160. One of the BluePrint tutors told me to watch the 7-Sage YouTube videos on LGs to increase my score. I took the advice, and it worked (well). Deciding not to remain in ignorance, I decided to re-take all the basics through the 7-Sage course, and guess what happened. 7-Sage has explained more than BluePrint entire corpus, and I'm not done with 7-Sage's core curriculum, yet.

Hi guys and gals,

I thought I'd poll the collective wisdom of 7Sagers for advice.

I'm taking a week-long unavoidable trip to Europe at the end of May (coming back June 02). I'm not thrilled about it, as a 7 hour jet lag is not exactly optimal preparation for the LSAT, but I hope 4 days would be enough to get over most of it. Because my little girl will be with me and I'll be busy with all kinds of errands, it will be very difficult to find time to do full length PT's, although I have been toying with the idea of doing one on the flight out and one on the flight back.

I'm planning to keep up the LG drilling, because my scores drop when I slack off.

What would you do for PT's if you were in my shoes? Finish all the fresh ones before going and maybe do a repeat on the flight and another after coming back? Save a fresh one for after coming back? Something else?

I've been taking 2 PT's a week religiously for what seems like an eternity and I got into a really nice groove with them. Seems like the best balance for me personally between a small enough load to avoid burnout and allow for drilling and BR, but large enough to keep those skills nice and sharp. I'm a bit worried to let go of my "safety blanket" routine, even though my rational mind tells me all of that work won't magically evaporate in a week.

How are you guys planning to "taper"? For those that already took the LSAT with pleasing results, what did you do during the last couple of weeks?

Many thanks!

Hello,

I am not sure as to whether I should take the June or the Sep exam. I am aiming for 165+(canadian) . My recent PTs have been in the 166-168 range. With only 13 fresh PTs left, I am alternating between retakes and fresh exams.

Should I take the exam when I am well above my target score,in order to be safe, or do you think I should still aim for June??

Thank you in advance for your advice

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Hi All,

I am currently signed up for the Ultimate package with 7Sage. After taking some time off, I am back to studying for LSAT. I noticed that 7Sage now has Ultimate+ (sorry if this has been out for a while and has already been discussed, but I just noticed it recently). Is an upgrade from Ultimate to Ultimate+ recommended? For anyone who has upgraded and been through the new offering, please let me know your thoughts and recommendations.

Thanks a lot for your time.

So, I’m wanting to participate in the September BR group, but I’m in a good place with the curriculum and eager to start; so thought I’d lay out my ideas of how to balance that and get some input.

I’ve begun fool proofing the games and have developed what I think is a really good system for me based off of 7Sage’s recommendations with some modifications of my own. I feel great there, so it’s more LR and RC I’m unsure of how to study in the meantime. I guess I’ll just drill sections, alternating between using a timer and a stopwatch to develop my pace, followed of course by thorough Blind Review. I will return to the curriculum to address any BR misses and over confidence errors.

Does that seem like a productive use of a month? Or should I not worry so much about the group and just go ahead with PTs?

Does anyone know which states offer the multi state bar exam?

I've also heard that some states offer reciprocity but I'm not sure which ones & if you have to be practicing law for a while or not to do that.

Thank you in advance for any information.

Hey all,

I seem to have found an issue in my thought process which needs addressing. I cannot distinguish between an analogy in an argument and counterexample.

For PT23 S2 Q11, an AP question type, I was pretty convinced that the part of the argument I was asked to describe was a counterexample when in fact, it was an analogy (question wrong :( ). After watching the explanation video I was still a little hazy on this but could definitely see it as an analogy.

Fast forward to PT33 S1 Q2, a MR question, I was faced with the same dilemma. Down to two answer choices, one describing the argument as using an analogy and the other saying it was a counterexample. My instinct wanted to choose the counterexample but I began to recall what caused me to err on the aforementioned AP question. I ended up choosing the analogy AC which ended up being correct.

I feel as if I am on the brink of having an 'ah ha' moment (or am way overthinking this) and was curious if anyone could shed some light and help clarify these two concepts for me.

From what I have taken away, an analogy is used in an argument to show that something is like something else and, because of the similarities, proof that the original reason for the initial something being argued for is in fact a valid. For example, If I say all Jedi use the Force and all Sith Lords use the Force as well, then Luke Skywalker is, therefore, both a Jedi Knight and a Sith Lord. The analogy of the Jedi and Sith assumes that Luke is both, when all avid Star Wars fans know this is not the case (although, this is not an entirely invalid argument. Anakin Skywalker--Luke's father--was, technically, both a Jedi and a Sith).

A counterexample almost directly opposes the initial claim made by the argument. If I say that all Jedi use the Force and I find a Jedi who has no ability to use the Force, then that would be a counterexample. It's like an exception to a rule.

Am I thinking straight? Thank you in advance.

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For some reason I'm not getting any RC data for my analytics. The other sections show up fine, but for question type analysis, RC is blank. It says "no data available"

Anyone else having this issue?

First of all, high five!

So now what do I do? Take a break? Drill? PT? Start over and do it again? What have some of y’all done to transition out of the curriculum?

Lots of points made in this short video from Bloomberg Law. I agree completely with his viewpoint about the importance of writing and recommending that people should generally avoid pre-law courses in favor of having a more well-rounded focus in undergrad.

Nevertheless, I think it's a little harder to justify making law school 4 years due to the extra monetary/time costs and the perception of many law school students who felt that their 3rd year was useless (http://www.businessinsider.com/third-year-of-law-school-is-useless-2012-11; http://abovethelaw.com/2013/09/recent-graduates-overwhelmingly-think-their-third-year-was-useless/). It certainly could be the case that these law school students are just simply wrong, but of the many law school teachers, current lawyers, and retired lawyers I've talked to, the vast majority seem to think that law school either is a year too long or 3 years is fine.

Idk though, I haven't been to law school (yet), but I'm interested in what current law school students/law school grads think.

I still can't figure out how to enter my original score and my BR score when I'm checking the answers. Could someone help me?

This may seem like an overly anxious question, but I was wondering if people take their practice tests in the same way they expect to be taking it on test day? I just realized I will be taking the LSAT this June in a large auditorium, with those tiny desks (the ones where you can't fit both the test and answer sheet completely on it at the same time), compared to the testing center I took the test in last time in which I had an abundant amount of room to spread out the test booklet and the answer sheet. I honestly never took "bubbling strategies" too seriously, but now I'm starting to think I may need to develop a bubbling strategy that caters to not having the answer sheet available on the desk to bubble in at any time. Any thoughts or strategy tips would be really appreciated.

Dear 7sagers,

I have this dean who knows me very very well. I was afraid that she could not write LOR before school deadlines, so I submitted all my applications without indicating that there will be a third from her. Now hers has arrived. Shall I talk to schools to submit one more LOR? Does it hurt? Does it help?

Thank you so much!

I've been steadily and consistently studying for about two years for the LSAT, and I've managed to score in the low 170s a total of about ten times (a little less than this). With this, however, come the occasional hiccups (e.g. a 164 on my most recent test), though I think these somewhat infrequent though dramatic drops in my score reflect the stupid mistakes I make more so than anything else.

This stated, I'm getting awfully tired of scoring in the low 170s for a few tests with a bad test that follows. I've fallen into a frustrating repetition despite feeling like I know more about the test than I did when I was first scoring in the 170s, which was as long as a year go.

As noted in my header, I want to see anyone's input on where I should go from here. With more 170s than not, I'm confident I have a good grasp of the material, especially of LG sections. RC sections fluctuate for me, though consistent practice seems to solve the problem nicely. My LR is usually good, though my last test was severely marred by miss after miss in LR. Has anyone been in this situation? If so, did simply PTing and BR-ing solve this for you, or did you have to go back to study material and possibly drill by question type?

Note: When I refer to BR-ing, I mean my personal process of circling questions I do not feel super confident about, though I BR the entire test anyway.

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I currently work full time 9-5 as a legal assistant, but wake up as early as 5:30-6 because my commute is pretty far (DC traffic is terrible!!!). I usually get home around 6:30-7 and I'm exhausted. For those who work full time, what are your study schedules like? How many hours do you devote to studying when you get home? I'm planning on taking the LSAT in September or December, so any tips would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

I want to delete all my previous test results on grader.

But it seems like there is no reset button nor could I delete the answers myself. When I erase all the answers from the answer sheet, it still shows as I took the test.

Is there a way I can restart the grader?

For high scorers (high 160s, 170s), how have you guys kept answered questions from reading comprehension passages that test on specific details from the passage accurately and efficiently. These questions stump me because they usually test a detail that I may have glossed over. I usually fare ok on the questions that test passage structure but this particular question type has been getting me recently. I noticed in particular when the passage asks about a detail relating to a particular time frame, I find myself wondering where I have seen that particular detail.

Thanks

I don't know about you, but after each exhausting 5-section practice test I take, I have to do something else to decompress for a few hours. Usually I'll either play some video games or watch YouTube videos, but today I was fortunate enough to watch Middle Tennessee knock off Michigan State. Do you guys jump right from the PT into BR, or, if you take some time off, how long do you take and what do you do?

Hey guys! A 7Sager had a question I thought you could help out with. Here it is:

I’ve been studying with your 7sage ultimate+ package for about 3 months, and I took this February test after finishing almost all your core lessons and about 7 timed PTs. I knew I wasn’t ready and I only got a 157. So I’m gonna take another test this June.

I was wondering if you can give me some advice on how to study for the coming three months.

My main problems were RC and LG.

1. Since English is not my mother tongue, I can only manage to finish 3 passages in the 35mins RC section, and the correction rate was horrible.

2. I can’t finish all 4 games within 35mins most of the time. (But I was less worried about LG than RC, because I feel I can get faster by keep practicing the ’10-clean-copies’ method you suggested.)

I feel like I can’t deal with these two problems by simply keeping doing timed PTs set by set for the next three months, because it seems I’ll just keep not being able to finish them again and again from the experience of those 7 complete PTs I did do (I just wasn’t getting any better!).

So would you please give me some advice on how should I train myself to get a 170+ for the next 3 months (especially for these two main problems I pointed out)?

Thanks a lot for your help!