Admin. Note (11/8/2019)

Edited to add: Please see the following update by @"David.Busis" (also in Comments)

"Hey everyone—I can speak for @"J.Y. Ping" when I tell you that this advice from six years ago is no longer valid.

The writing sample matters.

Some admissions officers read all writing samples as a rule; some only read it for certain applicants under certain circumstances. Regardless, it matters. If the admissions team might read it, you have no choice but to act as if they will read it."

It doesn't matter. It's not a part of your score. Do it according to instructions and you'll be fine. I'm not really convinced that admissions officers even read the samples. Seriously, who can still read handwriting?

The setup will ask you to make an argument, so make an argument. You will argue that out of the two options to pursue, one is better than the other. What metric do you use to argue for "better?" The setup gives you two goals, constraints, metrics, whatever you want to call it, that's how you argue for "better."

Make arguments for both sides. But, ultimately argue for just one side.

For example, we need to get off the island. We have two options: bridge or ferry. We have two constraints/goals/metrics: safety and speed.

Argument: We should take the bridge. The bridge is safer and faster. Some people think the ferry is safer and faster but they are idiots. They make arguments like X, but, come on. X, really? That's all you got? Come on. So, we're in agreement, yes? Off to the bridge!

The above satisfies the instructions, but is a very bad argument. Imagine if that's on an LR section. You'd tear that argument to pieces! So, make sure you don't make arguments like that one. Call out any assumptions you make, e.g., "I presume blah blah blah is the case." Don't make fallacies, e.g., attacking an argument with "Come on."

Anyway, by the time you get to this section, the test is pretty much over and you should feel overwhelming relief. So, try to have some fun with it! :)

I have heard before that for except without until you are supposed to negate the necessary condition and the sufficient condition and turn it into the contra-positive. I often find this difficult and/ or confusing and I was wondering if there was a simpler way to do it. Examples would be appreciated :)

seem to be getting it a lot... I usually use Chrome as my browser, but I've had the same issue using IE and Android.

If anyone wants to review PT 68 with me tomorrow (Friday) over google hangout/skype. private message me and we can get started. Logical reasoning, both sections.

Of course you are. You're about to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one you'll take in October (or December or next February). :)

I'm kidding! Most likely, this is the last LSAT you'll ever take. I'm just trying to say that for something as important as this, there are second chances. That's definitely not true for most important things, so you should feel good knowing that.

For most of you, you already know what you'll get on this June LSAT. Take your past three recent (i.e., 59-68) properly administered LSAT prep tests and average your score. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of your average. I suppose one assumption is that on Monday somewhere between the third or fourth announcement of "5 minutes remaining" you do not suffer a small heart attack... Anyway, ask yourself, will you accept your average as your official LSAT score?

If not, further ask yourself if you are willing to study more. Be honest and realistic. This test is crushingly difficult to study for. You know this. If you are masochistic enough to call yourself determined, then great, we will be determined right here with you.

If so, then congratulations. You are as prepared as you can be and there is nothing standing between you and that score. You've seen everything they'll throw at you, every attack, every ambush, every evasive maneuver. You've amply demonstrated your ability to respond. Monday will not be new day and the June LSAT will not be a new LSAT. LSAT 69 will be just like LSAT 65 and LSAT 64. People just like you took those LSATs and they're in law school now.

For Monday, this is the only thing I want you to remember: keep moving.

You will encounter curve breaker questions. Every LSAT has a couple. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you encountered them. You will too. I'm telling you this now, so you'll be prepared. Skip the curve breaker questions if they are too difficult. Don't let a couple questions break your rhythm.

Just keep moving. You got this.

P.S. If you're in NYC, come have a drink on us Monday evening!

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/56/nyc-open-bar-post-june-lsat-monday-evening

When I finish the "Sufficient Assumption & Pseudo Sufficient Assumption Questions" section, have I finished the Logical Reasoning lessons? In other words, are the topics covered in the previous lessons the only topics in the syllabus that will help me in the LR section of the LSAT?

Hey guys, I know most of you aren't in NYC. But, for those of you who are, we want to let you know that we're having an open bar event in the evening. Drinks on us.

Hopefully, this gives you something to look forward to. Whether you'll be in the mood to celebrate, commiserate, or cry, the important thing is for us to do it together!

More details to come!

Go watch the new star trek movie. Its great! Just watched it last night. There is some nice logic thingies with spock you will enjoy and would motivate you.

Don't worry, its not like the first one (if you didn't enjoy the first movie). Its so much better than the first one too. And if you haven't watched the first one, you would still understand this one.

I'm signing up now for the October LSAT and I'm trying to see if any of the test center in New York (Manhattan) is better than others. Supposedly there are three test centers in New York: CUNY, Fordham Law School and Pace University (http://www.lsac.org/jd/pdfs/testcentercodes.pdf). But on LSAC's registration page only Pace University is available to sign up for so I don't know if I will have any choice anyway.

I registered for June LSAT (Jun.23) in Asia and it's the last day (May 29) to change my test date today.

I am not prepared at this moment but I still want to give it a shot if I work out something 20 days later..so I haven't change my test date yet.

Is that any other disadvantages except losing money if I withdraw after today? I wonder if there will be a note of "absent" in my track and I lose one chance to take the exam within 2 yrs (Because of the policy of taking no more than 3 exams within 2 yrs)

Thanks!

I read in several places that retaking PTs is recommended. I'm wondering what are the merits of this? How should we treat the second run through differently? Perhaps we should go through the test as fast as we can to test our gut instincts rather than carefully thinking through each one?

Feel like everytime I re-start my engine for PT after reviewing & resting even just for 3-4 days I got rusty..like terribly..

How much time you guys put in between your PTs? I know rest is critical to keep a clear head but too much interval time doesn't seem to work..

I am in a bit of a quandary and open to any thoughts. I was scheduled for the June 10th and wanted to schedule for October - for whatever reason I was unable to change the date and I am now stuck for the June 10 which I am not ready for. That leaves me with the following possibilities and I am trying to assess the implications of each.

1. Withdraw - I lose the money on the fee but so be it, at least I haven't wasted one of the few exams were allowed to take

2. Take the exam and cancel the result just to get the experience of trying the exam - question, can we see a result before we cancel?

3. Take it just for the experience and do not worry about it, rebook the 2nd in October?

I have till a few days before June 10 to decide, any thoughts welcome. I have studied a lot but just do not feel ready and still had a lot of material to still go through.

I've been trying just about every browser on Kindle Fire but it appears that I can't get the videos to load. Any suggestions (other than buying an iPad)?

There are 2 weeks until the June 10th LSAT. Anyone else freaking out a little? I have been studying on my own for a while. I took a PowerScore course back in October/November in order to take the December LSAT. However, due to some other things that came up I was unable to take it. Now I have been looking over my books/exams from LSAC/ Kaplan Books and realized I don't feel ready. Do you think I have enough time to improve my score 15 points?

Hello brothers and sisters,

Does anyone know whether the real tests are printed one-sided or two? I've been practicing with two-sided booklets but two seems pretty comfortable.

Thanks!

Hey Alan,

I noticed that if chat screen is open and you scroll the page it bugs out sometimes and gets in the way.

http://postimg.org/image/8oo98h0dn/full/

I don't know if anyone else has this problem. Happens sporadically.

-Using google chrome

Guys, I still have 12 complete PT (57-68) intact. Taking June LSAT on 6/23 (I'm taking it in Asia so the date is different).

Trying to divide entire 48 sections into 9 full PTs with 5 sections each and remaining 3 sections to keep me engaged during the last two days before test. Any thoughts? Good/bad idea?

Hey guys, I have heard from a friend that retaking an old PT (that you have done in the past) under timed condition is a good idea because after all, PTs are scarce and by repeating an old PT, you get to re-engage and consolidate the thinking process.

Good or a waste of time?

Thoughts?

This question is presumably directed to Alan (who is a tech-wiz ferreal): can you put a feature to star explanations?

I'm cataloging the hardest questions I've come across and want a way to mark them, similar to how individual lessons are marked. Can we already do this?

I find it is difficult to do the entire prep test in time. I have trouble circling questions I'm not sure on. I also find myself not reading LR Q stem first before stimulus (wasting time). HELP!!! How do I go about blind reviewing the test with not many circled questions? I know the process via videos, but should I redo the whole test under non-timed conditions? Also, I skipped a whole RC section and about 1/2 a LG section. So I don't even know what I don't know on that stuff. I want to improve LG and RC more than they currently are AND I HAVE TO focus on skipping high difficulty LR questions QUICKLY. Any advice on how I can use my time more effectively 1) to study & 2) to get through sections quicker... I would like to spend my last 5 minutes in LR marking answers and trying the 3-4 problems I skipped corrected and "FEELING GOOD" versus racing through the last 4 problems and marking answers like a SAW victim with time running out...

So I've finished most of the independent sections on 7sage but had not had the chance to take any prep tests under limited time. And I just did a mock test in the afternoon and scored in low 150.

I guess I am not used to time limit so I was a bit nervous, made many mistakes, and left at least 5 questions in each section blank. When I went back and finished the unanswered questions with no time limit the score goes above 160.

I am curious if it is realistic for me to reach 165 if I do 5-6 prep tests per week before June 10th?

Thanks a lot for anyone who shares his/her opinion.

How much does the writing portion at the end matter? Does anyone really "study" for it? IS there a way to study for it?

Pretty much everyone I know studying for the LSAT kind of just ignores this part... I know it gets sent to law schools and that LSAC doesn't grade it....I've heard that it's not that important since law schools know it's placed at the end of a tough, long test... and that they have a better example of your writing in your personal statement.

Hi Everyone!

Based on the discussion title, what should be the average increase in points from the diagnostic to the second test we take?

I went up 6 points in the second test and I'm feeling a bit down. What I thought to be my strongest sections in the LSAT became my weakest ones on the second PT.

Ex: On my diagnostic, my strongest sections were LG and RC. After taking the test, my most improved section was LR, and I bombed RC and LG.

Should I take a small break from the tests to do more drills in LG and RC? Or should I "keep calm and carry on" with the prep tests?

Thanks a ton!

I heard a bit back that the new tests give all takers 2 pages for each LG & I just confirmed it. Yay for more space to diagram! Just thought I would throw that out there in case it's news to some. Keep studying hard everyone! :)