I've started with Mike Kim's Trainer and got through about 1/3 of the book (skipping LG for the new format). My diagnostic PT was a 160, which is a decent start, but now I'm wondering if I should switch to 7sage's core curriculum and finish that as soon as possible. Given where I'm at and the remaining time I'm at, how should I prioritize the CC, the trainer, and PTs?

For example, should I do 1 PT per week along with the CC and drop the trainer entirely? Or should I finish the CC entirely first then start doing PTs?

Thanks!

Hello,

I made a final push for June of 2024 (trying to maximize LG's) with the hope of hitting 170. I fell about five points short of that goal and am feeling a bit stuck. On the one hand, I was making substantial improvement with LR/RC. However, I feel that the uphill battle to claw towards the 170 with just RC/LR will be a challenge. I've PT'd in the past in the 170s (with LGs) and have seen RC/LR scores that indicate that I'm capable of getting close to that margin. I was wondering if anyone was feeling the same way and was wondering how to approach the post-June LSAT if you're in a similar predicament. I've put a lot of time and effort towards getting a 170 and hate to fall five (albeit a big five) points short. Was hoping to see if anyone had any advice or input in a similar situation. Thanks.

I really need help with my personal statement. I applied for law schools for this cycle and obviously didn't make it. I know my LSAT was the main contributor, but I feel like my personal statement wasn't what it needed to be. Does anyone know where I can get help?

Hi, everyone! I'm retaking in December but am forcing myself to halt LSAT prep for a week to start working on my PS. I hope to have a first rough draft complete by Monday, and I'd love to get feedback from a variety of sources. Would anyone be willing to trade essays with me to give and receive some constructive feedback? Please PM if so :)

And if you don't have an essay to give me, but you want to read/critique mine, let me know!

Proctors: Proctors were overall very nice. In fact I remember that on my test day there was construction happening across the street. Honestly I didn't really hear it but the proctors told us before the test specifically that they were aware of it and had even sent students across the street to ask if they could delay their work until after the test or at least keep the volume to a minimum. I thought this was incredibly nice of them and showed that they really did care about creating a quiet testing environment

Facilities: Restrooms were pretty small I remember. There's a few of them scattered throughout the various levels of the building but each has only maybe one or two stalls inside so if you have to use the restroom before the test or during a break it might take a bit as I recall there being a bit of a line. Other than that the building was nice and cool (some people needed jackets, I was fine and preferred the a/c and cool classrooms) and the classrooms were really nice as well

What kind of room: Size of a 20-25 person classroom. Mine was on the third floor in a very quiet building

How many in the room: About 10-15 students per room

Desks: Huge desks! A full table for each person!

Left-handed accommodation: N/A, you get a huge desk

Noise levels: Very quiet throughout. The building is nice and quiet and nobody seemed to be around for miles on campus on the day of the test

Parking: Parking was pretty easy, much if it is nearby the building itself. Signage was put up so not hard to find. There didn't seem to be very much parking as I recall as far as number of spaces but I got there early so it wasn't an issue.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Arrived at around 7:45am and we went into the room by about 8:15-8:30 if I recall correctly and I want to say that the test started around 9am. Really rough times since this was so long ago now but I remember waiting in the building for probably at least 30 minutes before getting into the room

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments: Pretty good location to take a test. I'm from a much larger university within an hour of redlands and didn't want to take it at my school because I've been in the ridiculously large lecture halls with their small desks and knew that wasn't going to be fun. Super glad I went to Redlands

Would you take the test here again? Definitely. From the quiet rooms and campus, the super nice proctors, and the huge desks honestly I doubt you could ask for a more perfect testing center

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015

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I'm a bit confused of the way the 7Sage study schedule is laid out. I'm planning to take the test in October and in the custom Study Schedule 7Sage created, there is no time dedicated to drills in any of the weeks and all the practice tests are bunched up in one week (Week 10 in September).

Does anyone have a recommended study schedule to use integrating drills and practice tests throughout the process? I want to make sure I'm actually drilling questions and taking practice tests ahead of my test date to work on areas I need to improve on.

Thanks!

TLDR: Stuck in 155 rut for months, despite 171 BR, want to break into 160s, wondering whether something fundamental is missing or its just be like that. Highly appreciate any insight!

Study Time so far:

Studied full time mid July to start of September 2023, took 2 PTs got 142, 145, was using 2015 Kaplan book, good foundation for logic but meh strategies

September-October: Break

November 2023-Mid January 2024: studied full time with 7sage Tutor and Live classes, PTing 153-157, BR 161-167. Took Jan LSAT, got 150, # of practice hours hit 300 a few days before. Improvement from diagnostic which is nice, and even now feel like I've learned so much.

February to now (May): Studying part-time (9-15 hrs a week, 450 study hours so far) while working, still PTing 155 but doing August 2024 format and went from BR 165 a month ago to now BR 171, so understanding has been improving at least. Sometimes skim LSAT Trainer for exercises and tips, and focused heavily on 7sage curriculum, found Phenomenon-Hypothesis strategies extremely useful. Worse questions usually are Flaw and RC Sci/Law passages with ambiguous author opinion.

Currently focusing on perfecting LR 10 in 10 drills for a section's first 10 questions, and can get 80-90% right, but realistically need 100%. Working on paraphrasing questions, and being efficient and accurate for easy to medium questions, especially for flaw Qs, as I stand to gain the most points there. I also think practicing staying as calm as possible during sections is starting to help, because I tend to make mistakes on questions I find really easy without the time pressure, and rush in general.

Consistently 8-10 wrong on LR, but 7-12 on RC. Have got only 2 wrong on RC or LR sometimes but each on different PTs, would love to get both at once lol.

Considering everything, with a BR 171 and a 155 actual, it seems there's potentially huge room to improve timed, and I appreciate the skills I'm learning through the LSAT, but its still somewhat demotivating being stuck in the mid-150s since November, especially with an improving understanding through BR. Granted, studying has been part-time and LR/RC is slower to improve than LG, so who knows. Unsure what to do, as I consistently BR, journal in-depth about right/wrong answers, ways to improve, what I misunderstood. I try to only do a PT when I feel I've worked on a large number of drills for problem areas. Want to say its the time pressure stress, but still get cooked on harder LR sections even when super calm and highly accurate with the easier questions, but we'll see. Have considered more tutoring/live classes.

Highly value anyone's thoughts!

Thanks for reading!

Hi everyone, quick question on which is the more accurate or more correct score to rely on after taking a Prep Test, specifically on 7Sage. I've been noticing that they give different numbers. For example, I recently took PT 80 and got -8 (93/101) for a score of 172. However, looking at the 7Sage Score Conversion Chart (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-score-percentile-conversion/), a -8 on PT 80 is a 170. According to the chart, a 172 would mean that I got -6.

Can anyone help explain this difference?

Thanks!

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I recently rescheduled my June 2024 LSAT to the August 2024 LSAT. While registering for the June exam, I purchased Score Preview and wondered what happens to it if you reschedule an exam. Do I have to repurchase Score Preview, or will it transfer to my new date? Thanks!

I was BR-ing this and I have some questions, but I'm not sure of we are allowed yet.

Proctors: One proctor in the room, her accent was quite strong but she spoke very slowly so I was still able to understand her.

Facilities: The LSAT was on one floor of the building, very easy to find with multiple testing rooms.

What kind of room: The room was small but everyone had an entire desk to themselves and there were plenty of windows, so the lighting was perfect. Also had a beautiful view of the North Shore mountains and the Lion's Gate bridge so that wasn't too bad either ;)

How many in the room: I think there were about 8 people writing the exam in one room, which was great because it didn't feel crowded at all.

Desks: Desks were huge! And there was only one person per desk, so tons of room!

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: Perfect. I was worried that with the test centre being downtown there would be a lot of traffic/construction noise but it was silent.

Parking: I got a ride down, but I imagine you'd be paying an arm and a leg if you decide to park. It is downtown Vancouver after all :/

Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~30 mins

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments: I'd highly recommend this location over BCIT or UBC if you live in the Lower Mainland. Very few people chose this location in comparison.

Would you take the test here again?: I will never take the LSAT again for as long as I live. But if someone put a gun to my head, then yes, I'd chose this location again :D

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Saturday, October 3rd, 2015

I'm going through the "Skill Builder - Group 2 Translations" unit of the Conditional and Set Logic section in the Core Curriculum and I'm having some trouble understanding why contrapositives were not used for questions 7.1-7.5. Was looking through the forums and comments under that unit and couldn't find much that explained why contrapositives weren't being used here. I did, however, see a comment that mentioned contrapositives not being used because the conditional language was used to express a potential causal relationship (more than a sufficient-necessary relationship). However, it still seems that those statements are conditional with comparative and causal elements (at least based on the explanations provided for those statements and how I and others interpreted them).

So would statements indicating there being causal and/or comparative elements not require contrapositives, especially if the statements can also be translated into lawgic and indicate there being a sufficient/necessary relationship??

My apologies in advanced if this type of question is meant to go under that unit and not in the discussion forum. It's just that there wasn't much of a response (if any) from the tutors about this.

I've been trying to make a LG summary and was wondering if anyone has any notes that they'd like to exchange? Just a brief overview of what to keep in mind when encountering each type of game set!

Thanks so much and happy studying!!

I've been watching a lot of the logic games videos and see a difference between open ended games and those that you need to make inferences for. Are there any telling signs that you need to make inferences, or is this simply intuition you need to acquire through practice?

Why are my notes in the My Notes tab arranged alphabetically instead of in order of lesson? How do I fix this??

I'm in Carrollton and looking for a study buddy for the September LSAT. My goal is to break 170, but I'm willing to study with anyone provided s/he is kind and hard-working.

Is there a limit?

any suggestions appreciated!

Proctors: 2 proctors. Very good, only one minor complaint. See noise levels.

Facilities: Community college campus in suburbs

What kind of room: Classroom

How many in the room: 15

Desks: Not great -- the kind where the seats are connected to the desk. Not wobbly, decent desk size. Had to put the answer sheet behind the packet.

Left-handed accommodation: None.

Noise levels: Very low. The proctors whispered to each other at the very end of the test, which was annoying -- but I was the closest student to them. I doubt that anybody else in the classroom heard. Otherwise, they were very great.

Parking: Plenty of dedicated parking on campus, only a few minutes walking from the building where the test was given.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 5 hours. I was towards the end of the line to be placed into a classroom, there were others that finished over an hour before our classroom did. I was starving by the end of it.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: None.

Would you take the test here again? Yes.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015

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Hey so as the title says, I'm looking for a study partner.

I ask for the higher score because I think it'd be nice to study with someone that has a better understanding than you. This doesn't necessarily mean I am looking for a free tutor or something though - I've actually got a tutor from TLS I'll be working with soon (and have worked with in the past). I've been studying for a while now, my last PT was 156 and this was months ago, during my school semester. I studied a lot during my last summer and into my school semester a bit (wanted to take in december) but didn't quite get the score I wanted on PT's so didn't bother writing in addition to getting caught up with school work that took precedent over LSAT studying so I did what I could to maintain.

I am again however, hoping to write in december. I think this time will be a lot better for me since I don't have to spend a most of my time figuring out what the hell I was doing in the first place, and can spend these months drilling - which is where the partner comes in. I think it'd be good for things such as LR (over skype) or discussing general strategies for the test.

If anyone scoring well would be interested, just reply below.

Proctors: Two at the front of the room.

Facilities: In the basement of the University Community Center. There's around 5-6 rooms in total, all full.

What kind of room: in basement, but bright and spacious. Air conditioning can be a bit cool so layer up.

How many in the room: around 20

Desks: around 15

Left-handed accommodation: not sure

Noise levels: Low in the room. But also depends on the people taking the test with you.

Parking: Paid parking available in the back of the community center.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 30 min. Test administered on time.

Irregularities or mishaps: None, except for proctor whispering to coordinate test procedure. Also, proctor was unfamiliar with procedure (she thought we couldn't go back to a prior page in the same section) so future test takers, please be familiar with the procedure.

Other comments: Lots of people (70+), so can be crowded during registration. If you're a student from uwo, very likely to bump into people you know, if you care about that.

Would you take the test here again? Yes.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 2015

Would anyone be willing to look over my LOCI??