I keep getting the same amount of questions wrong (roughly 4) on logical reasoning, even when untimed. I blind review and feel very confident in my (wrong) answers too. I think this means that I'm just thinking about the stimulus or approaching them incorrectly. What am I doing wrong, and how can I get past this plateau?

Hi everyone! I've recently been getting a lot better with LG but when I blind review I start to doubt myself and change the answers. So when I do the game the first time I get a 5/7 or 6/6 but when I do blind review it I switch to wrong answers bringing me down a point or two. Could anyone help me out?

Could someone please help explain how they got to answer choice D?

Hey guys,

What are your thoughts on score preview? Can law schools see if you cancel your score? I don't know if I want to spend even more money on LSAC stuff! But if it really is beneficial, I think I'll look into it for my October test.

I am finishing up the logical reasoning curriculum and plan to practice test just the logical reasoning section for now, until I get through the rest of the Curriculum. How many should I be getting wrong if I want to aim for a 160? I know it also depends on what I get on the other sections, but just a general idea would be nice.

Would it be a good idea to attack questions 15 and up first in a section, then go back to 1-14 after? Burnout is real for me as I work through the section so this method might help. Thoughts?

I had a look at this to see at what point harder questions might start showing up

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/lr_individual-question-difficulty

Hello everyone. I’m looking for some advice as I’m honestly panicking now. I took PT83 today and I had heard that PTs in the 80s were much more difficult. The LG section wasn’t bad but I ran out of time and got -8. The RC was ok and I also got -8 which is around my average. Now LR… I had been averaging -8/9 and got destroyed with a -15. Even worse, 7Sage classified this LR section as a 2 star difficulty section as a whole. I’m signed up for the October and LSAT and feel completely lost now. I thought I was finally improving LR but after hearing how the current LSATs are much like the PTs in the 80s I’m really worried. -15 in LR is abysmal especially in what 7sage considers to be a 2 star (easier) section. On BR, I got an extra 6 questions correct bringing my BR score to -9 (which is still bad) but definitely not -15. Where do I go from here? I feel like all hope is lost considering the October LSAT is right there.

Is there a specific section in the CC that teaches diagraming? I can do brain gymnastics pretty well but conditional diagramming isn't my thing. Any help will be appreciated.

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Does every real test have a comparative passage? I cannot seem to recall

In PT12.S2.Game 3, we have a rule that goes:

Mendel does not buy any kind of food that Nastassia buys.

JY, in his explanation video, drew the Lawgic as:

M --> /N

Why is it not /M --> N or N --> /M

Could you please help?

Hello, I have realized that there are certain questions on Reading Comprehension that do not have an explanation. For example the video would jump from question 14 to question 16 without any reference to question 15. Does anybody know the reason for that? thank you!

Lots of words below outlining my issues with the section. If you're also struggling with RC and/or have come up with novel solutions, please consider sharing ideas.

Reading comprehension is consistently my lowest performing section, I've got a pretty static -4 to -0 band on LR and LG, but reading is something that I'm worried I'm not effectively getting better at just from reading more passages.

Current Method:

I find that writing things down sucks up time and misdirects effort away from holistic understanding, because if I try to write a one sentence summary or comment on the structure I'll be focusing on that PARAGRAPH at the detriment of understanding the author's point as a whole. Currently, I don't use any paper in my RC strategy. This is probably a big area I need to consider. I'm entirely mentally reading for detail, and thinking about how things relate to each other as I go, keeping it in mental storage.

Concerns:

-Topics are too foreign/difficult/boring. I don't care about how 18th century English medieval common law courts carried out sentences pertaining to women's rights and how research methodology pertains to whatever. This makes it difficult for me to even recognize important details, let alone remember them. I also straight up don't know anything about art history or shit like that. I've noticed a significant boost in performance when it comes to science/natural history, things that I'm interested in, or technology/economics/finance, things that I've studied. Prior knowledge clearly helps but I don't see how I can get enough of a broad base of knowledge for the entire LSAT.

which leads to

-Struggling with inferences. Things that aren't explicitly stated are inherently fuzzy, and then I'm legit coin-flipping for those 5* Q's. I can't generate a mastery of the detail in these passage inside of 4 minutes. Current approach is to try and isolate relevant sentences from the passage, but then you inevitably miss things.

-General shitty reading ability? Like, I didn't have to write essays in college, so getting hit with these academic paper writing styles is tough.

Current stats:

170 Avg, 175 peak timed over 5 most recent PT's taken, up from roughly ~160 2 months prior. Need to get to 175 as a floor. RC consistently holding me below 175.

Thanks for any insights guys, let's make this a discussion. Feel free to dm me or call me a poopee head, I just need ideas for how to approach prepping this gd section.

Hey guys, the October lsat is going to be the first lsat i'm going to take. I don't think I'm going to score very high on it :( and i'm thinking of just signing up for the November lsat right now. Is that possible? or is there like a rule that you have to wait a certain amount of time before taking another one?

Thanks!

Hello, does anyone know a list of Pt's that have 2 RC sections?

Why is C wrong? Wouldn't the uncertainty of who is handling the networks still be an issue if the government funded?

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I can consistently get -3/4 on LR and RC, but I struggle with getting less than 2 wrong. My goal is 170+ so the difference between missing 3 vs missing 2 per section matters. When I blind review, I never seem to realize what I did to get the answer wrong, I only understand after seeing the explanation. Usually its very minor things such as a word that makes the answer less strong, or maybe the right answer was just stronger. Regardless, I know there has to be some way to get better and I am stuck. Any tips?

Hi, I will be taking my very first LSAT in October.

I am trying to adjust my PT schedule to the actual test time, but I cannot find the exact time of the exam.

Does anybody know how the time slots are going to be like on ProctorU? Is it going to be in the morning/afternoon?

Thank you!

Hello everyone. I was hoping to see if I could get some tips for in-out games. I’m currently going through the CC on it and honestly, many of the explanations are just confusing me even further and feel overdone. I’m really struggling the most with the “harder” and “hardest”difficulty level in-out games. I just cant finish these on time at all despite being able to go back during BR to get most of the answers right. My main problem is knowing when to divide the game board into separate worlds/translating some of the rules/knowing when they’re activated or not. Should I just keep drilling these games until I get faster or is there something else that I am missing? If someone could drop some tips on how to improve at this I’d greatly appreciate it!

Hi everyone, I got this question right, but I wanted to make sure I diagrammed it correctly.

Premise: little psych discomfort in admitting flaw in casual conversation --> trivial

(since you experience little psych discomfort when admitting a flaw ONLY IF you consider that flaw to be trivial)

Conclusion: admit flaw in casual conversation --> trivial

Correct answer (missing "bridge"): admit flaw in casual conversation --> little psych discomfort in admitting flaw in casual conversation

I was confused b/c on another forum, they diagrammed the stimulus as a biconditional: trivial (--) little psych discomfort

and I could not see how the wording of the stimulus results in a biconditional.

Thanks in advance!

#help

I'm struggling on how to foolproof previous LGs. For example I'm trying to redo a sequencing LG from PT32 section 3 game 3. I'm trying to create drills and I am unable to find that exact LG to add to my drill. Could someone help me out?

Starting to stress out because my scores are regressing and October LSAT is exactly a month away. Scored 170 once and haven't been able to since, ranging between 164-169, 163 being the worst in the last few months. My original aim was 175 (aiming for T-14 schools) but after studying for more than a year, I'm just so tired. I feel like I have made so much progress in terms of understanding the test but my scores do not reflect this (although I scored 158 last two real exams so not reverting back to 150s is a good sign I guess). I am lowering my goal to 170 which is not a low score by any means but I'm afraid T-14 will not be possible for me with anything lower than this. What can I do to make sure I am able to score this on the real thing?

I think my main problem is not knowing what to do after BR and going through the wrong answers. I BR thoroughly and my BR scores are almost always in the mid-170s (although for PT 90 this past week was 168). I watch the explanations for questions I missed and I was unsure about. However, what do I do next? I have tried writing in the wrong answer journal the way to approach missed questions but I don't think they have helped. I take one test every Saturday and BR thoroughly but maybe I'm not doing the necessary studying and drilling the days between those PTs. The day I take the test should be the least hectic day, correct? At the moment, it feels like the most. How should I be studying or drilling on the days I'm not taking a PT? Should I go back to fundamentals, drill a question type or passage or take full section tests every day? Maybe I'm not taking enough section tests (I take maybe one or two the whole week) because whenever I start the full PT, it feels like oh shit what do I do now so maybe the section tests would be helpful in establishing good habits under timed conditions.

It feels like I am nearing the finish line but haven't achieved remotely what I set out to. Please help, any and all advice appreciated!

How do you guys each approach an RC passage while reading? Do you do the memory method every time or write down a low-res summary? I'm averaging -7 and would like to be down to -3! (And ideally take less time doing it) Thank you!

STATEMENT 1: "A work of architecture, if it is to be both inviting and **functional...

inviting + functional for public use --> ~obtrusive

contrapositive: obtrusive --> ~inviting or ~functional for public use

STATEMENT 2: "Modern architects, plagued by egoism...

We are thus told that modern architects (because they let their strong personalities take over their work) are producing buildings that are not functional for public use.

Answer choice B states that "modern architects who let their strong personalities take over their work produce buildings that are not unobtrusive." In other words, they produce obtrusive buildings.

The stimulus tells us that modern architects are producing buildings that are not functional for public use. We know from the contrapositive of the first statement that if a building is obtrusive, then it is either not inviting or it is not functional for public use. Does it follow that a building that is not functional for public use is obtrusive? No it does not: that would constitute a mistaken reversal of the conditional statement.

Please #help

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Is the answer choice of a NA question supposed to be a necessary assumption only between premises and conclusion or it can also be a necessary assumption between premises?