I've taken a few practice tests in the 70s, a few 80s, and some 60s. I don't have that much time left till september and obviously there are way more practice tests than I can do in time for the test (I'm studying while working full-time). Anyone know how I can figure out which PTs I should make sure I take before the test? I'm saving all the 90s for the month of August. Thank you!
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Hi guys! I am looking for some people to study with for the August 2022 LSAT! Hoping to make some sort of groupme or group chat, and maybe have zooms or something! I am a little behind on my study schedule, but I am hoping to really pick up the pace. My goal is mid 170s, and I am currently scoring around 169-171. Also, I am on EST!!
Hello,
I am taking the test in August, and I am trying to get my scoring to be more consistent. My goal is a 172. Here are the results from my last 4 tests:
PT 63:
LR -1
LG -3
RC -3
PT 64:
LR -1
LG -0
RC -2
PT 65:
LR -4
LG -1
RC -4
PT 66
LR -1
LG -2
RC -4
My current plan is to take two full PTs a week and take one day a week to take a PT section by section spaced out. Does that seem like enough? Any tips for consistency? I feel like I can never do well in every section.
This question is a little complicated to parse because their are two agents in the discussion, the nation who may attack (Potential Aggressor [PA]) and the nation who may be attacked (Target). Clarifying who is who helps set up the lawgic from the stimulus.
In the stimulus you get:
PAs having Fear of Retaliation implies that PAs will hesitate to attack (PAFR -> PAHesitate)
PAFR also implies that PAs are deterred (PAFR -> DetersPAs)
You also get this, which is very unweildy:
if PA thinks Target has great retaliatory power then PA thinks it CANNOT defend itself
(PAThinkTargetHasRetaliatoryPwr -> /PAThinkCanDefend)
an inference we can make right away is:
if /PAThinkCanDefend -> PAFR
if PAs think they CANNOT defend against retaliation then PAs have a fear of retaliation
Now we apply valid argument form 3 - Transitive:
PAThinksTargetHasGreatRetaliatoryPwr -> /PAThinkCanDefend -> PAFR -> DetersPAs & PAHesitate
Is there an answer choice that leverages the first step in order to optimize the final step? D does.
D: if you want deterrence, tell everyone about your great retaliatory power (because of the lawgic from the stimulus).
A: says "DeterPAs -> /PAThinkCanDefend" which confuses the given sufficient and necessary elements
B: says "PAThinksPA(self)HasGreatRetaliatoryPwr -> DetersPAs" and the stimulus doesn't say anything about that first part
C: assumes nations always attack unless deterred, which common sense indicates is probably false (hopefully) But aside from real world knowledge, it says "if PAHesitate -> /PAThinkCanDefend" (if PA hesitates then PA thinks it can't defend against retaliation). What we can say is that SOME PAs that hesitate were deterred. This answer choice is the same as A in its error.
E: We don’t know that retaliatory force has to be GREATER, only that it has to be “so great that a potential aggressor nation would have reason to think that it could not defend itself against such retaliation.” Also, superlatives like "maximum" give me pause and seem to appear in false answer choices often.
So, I'm having a bit of trouble with MBT MSS questions.
I take way too much time just comprehending the passages.
Does anyone have any tips on this?
I asked before with some help with LGs and now have perfected those! Now I am onto conquering RCs, and LRs. LR is where I think I can make some decent improvement.
Overall on my PTs I can get 163-166.
RC ranges from -4 to -7. That I am seeing a little improvement here and there.
LR can range from -4 to -7 as well.
LR I feel like I've been on a struggle bus. I work full time, so I do one PT a week, BR, and then try to review it. I also have tried to add some drilling of LRs I feel weak in. (Particularly NAs, PSAs, sometimes MSS).
One thing I have noticed is sometimes I make mistakes from reading a question stem, ac, or stimulus, and miss a VITAL Word! so sometimes I make dumb mistakes here and there....ugh
I am finding with my wrong journal-ling/BR, I know the question stems pretty well and what to do. I often just fall for traps answers as well. In particular the last 5 questions of the section usually beat me up.
I kinda also feel like drilling has made me worse?
Anyways, any advice or tips would be helpful! Is it dumb to drop LR drilling, and just review my wrong journal?
Any tips of how to review wrong journal better?
JY often "plays" with the rules in a LG before he does the questions. Do you all recommend doing this even on timed tests? If so, do you do so in your mind's eye, or actually on paper?
I usually play with the rules in difficult games when I'm doing BR, but not on the timed tests. I'm thinking about whether I should change this practice.
How long has everyone been studying for the august 2022 exam? I am studying basically full time this summer hoping to take the august 2022 exam. Going to have a lot less time once school starts but I am nervous to sign up for it and not end up doing well. Hoping for 165+ score -- what should my score be at the end of June to determine if I should sign up for the August exam or instead do the September/October one?
I'm totally running out of time studying for the August LSAT and it's so hard to admit it. I'm already signed up and paid and everything, no turning back now.... I'm working full time and thought it would be a lot easier to set aside time to study, not realizing how exhausted I'd be. Any advice on what parts I can skim through or skip ahead to??
Pt10 S1 Q19.
I keep getting this one wrong on blind review...
How many lsat preptests should we be taking from now until the august lsat?
I just want to say that this resource was life changing for me. I self studied using only 7sage for 6 months and went from a diagnostic of 154 in December to 177 on my first official LSAT this June. Thank you thank you thank you 7sage, JY, and the community of people here. If I can give back in any way to anyone who is a part of this community, please do not hesitate to reach out to me.
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I'm so confused on how C is not the right answer choice for this question, Help!
Hi,
I was practicing making some conditional statements for group 1 by implementing the generic "all jedis use the force" example. Using the "all" indicator, I wrote down the following: "force users are all jedis". Based on the translation rule, this should make sense since jedis is still the sufficient condition (the idea introduced by the indicator) for the necessary condition of being a force user. However, when I read the phrase in plain english without concentrating on the logic, "force users are all jedis" sounds like it is saying "all force users are jedis".
Is "force users are all jedis" still demonstrating the same logic as the original "all jedis use the force" (J→F)? I'm wondering if this is one of those examples where the english language makes a statement sound different than the actual logic within it. I would really appreciate some help/feedback. Thanks
What are some of the ways you learned to study the different flaw types? I've been trying flashcards but I'm not retaining any of it. Any advice?
Hey everyone!
I've been studying logical reasoning for about 3-4 months now and been putting all my energy into it,
I noticed that I am repeatedly scoring around 18-19 questions correct out of one LR section that is typically 24 questions.
WHen I go back to review the questions I am getting consistently incorrect, it usually is flaw in the reasoning questions
the other questions i get wrong are usually because of a silly Mistake like leaving out an important part of the stimulus and not understanding what the stimulus is saying
What are some tips for me that can help me score atleast a 20 on the LR section!?
Thank you!
Hello all,
I recently took the June 2022 Test and am not pleased with my score. Compared to my other test in January I did improve but only by 3 points. 133-136. I know not the best and a bad score. But my score I need is only a 146. So I’m 10 points off.
By this fall, I’m starting a career job, and all. But I am contemplating a retake for a third test in the future.
I need advice though: should I wait and study longer? Since this last test I studied from February to Early June so almost 4 months. But this time should I take 8-12 months instead? Also, what other strategies would anyone recommend this time around? Mix of 7Sage, Books and a tutor?
Again, I think I am going to take a 2-3 week break to strategize a new plan with any advice y’all can give me and hit the ground running in August/early September
Thanks.
Hi guys! I've always seen people write this and I've always felt really encouraged reading them. I hoped I get to write one someday, and that day is today!! I officially started studying for this test maybe 10 months ago. I started with Khan academy: they introduced me to the lsat. It was largely a waste of time. And I came to find out later on that they ruined a lot of the more recent PTs for me (they use them in their lessons). I did not make much progress. I think my first 2 PTs after Khan was a 147 and 149 (not sure).
I needed something different, so I turned to Mike Kim's lsat trainer. Finished it in like a month. Got a low/mid 150s in my first PT after this. Much better, but my LR needed some final tweaking, so I got the Loophole. It didn't do too much for me, but it was the one source that straightened out NA question types for me. But my real Achilles' hill was LG. It was killing me. I'm talking -12, or worse a lot of times. That's entirely what brought me to 7sage around Nov. 2021. I got here and started fool-proofing, as J.Y (and Mike Kim and almost everyone else) suggested. I made some real progress and by March, 2022 when I first took the actual test, I was getting -5 or better on most PTs. Got a lot mid 160s, a 169, and a 170 leading up to the March test.
March test day came. I didn't do as well as I'd hoped on the LG section. Ended up with a 162. Truth is I was proud of myself, but also desperately wanted to do better. I mean if you offered me a 162 when I first started studying for this test, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. Long story short, I enrolled for the June test. I went back to drilling games again, replaying the same games I've played maybe 6 times already. Kept doing LR and RC. Took the test and waited anxiously. Checked my score this morning and I got a 167! It's not the coveted 170, but it's a score I am extremely proud! I think my lsat journey is over
This is entirely too long, but I hope someone finds something in it encouraging and helpful!
I don't understand why C is correct. Initially I chose D then in BR I chose E. Please help!
Can anyone explain to me why C is incorrect and D is the right answer choice?
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Unsure why E is correct. I chose B initially, then once I did BR I chose D. Please help!
After reviewing this question, I am able to see why the right answer is correct. I just am not sure why AC C is incorrect.
He clearly states "Hooray for common sense" which appears to me as a way for him to undermine the administration's study (which I considered as his opponent) and basically say that it lacks common sense #help
Does anyone know if it is at all possible to take the LSAT on paper? Or is it all online now?
Why is the answer E. and not D?
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