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My relationship with the LSAT might be more complicated than my relationship with my estranged dad.
I've been taking this test off and on for three years. I completely underestimated my first attempt. The tutor I hired had the audacity to look me dead in the face and say, "Oh girl, you're fine. You've got this." What she neglected to mention was that having "this" and having 300 spare hours to study for "this" are two very different things.
I'm a trial paralegal in Big Law. In 2023, every COVID-delayed trial got rescheduled at once like judges collectively said: "can't settle by now? parties didn't die? here's a docket that might change that." Every one of them collided with my LSAT date and I spent like $600 moving the things because no trial attorney is approving their paralegal's time off the week before trial. Take away their paralegal and they'll start wandering the courthouse lobby like a Roomba with low battery.
I was working 200 to 250-hour months. My sleep schedule became a whisper in the wind. At one point I genuinely thought to myself, "Just do it, pull off the stupid band-aid. You can take the LSAT immediately after a three-week federal trial. You are a MOM who was literally in labor with a soccer ball sized baby head about tear you in half during senior finals and still aced a few of them."
Reader, I could not. I knew I was bombing it while I was taking it. Scored in the high 140s. Somehow way lower than my first cold practice test. Half my blood volume was energy drink. I still smelled like airplane and redwells.
Then my grandma died four days before my second attempt. "But she was in hospice, right? Didn't you know it was coming?" Yes, Jan. She was in hospice. She had also spent roughly thirteen years refusing to die out of what I can only assume was pure spite and some weird elixir of life consisting of pork rinds, Pepsi, and cigarettes.
I pulled her off life support as her POA in 2014. She survived. Seven respiratory failures. Cardiac arrest. Every time I thought, "Surely that's it." Nope. At a certain point she became less of a grandmother and more of a Gollum (I know how that sounds, promise I loved her). But I genuinely started to believe she might outlive me, my son, and his future children. So no, despite all available evidence, I did not think she was actually going to die. I kind of thought it was more likely she was already dead and I was hallucinating her existence. Didn't sleep before the exam. Had recurring nightmares they were cremating her alive. Somehow scored six points higher, but still lower than my first cold practice exam. A win is a win. Law schools disagreed.
After that, I gave the LSAT a break and got a master's in legal studies instead because AI is coming for all of us and I'd at least like to be automated last. Loved it. Crushed my classes. Took courses alongside practicing attorneys working on their LLMs and set the curve more than a few times. Increased my earnings by like 40%. Professors kept telling me, "You belong in my JD class." I was like, "Cool, could you put that in writing and mail it directly to LSAC?" (they did). They also suggested one of the expensive prep courses. I took one that "guaranteed a 165." Logic Games got removed, which was my worst section. Trial season cooled off. I had successfully run out of grandmothers.
So I walked into my next exam feeling fantastic. Then scored exactly the same as I did the time I took it while grief-stricken, resembling a schizophrenic raccoon after a night of no sleep because I was sitting on my living room floor listening to the Bee Gees, burning a cigarette like sage, and trying to summon Grandma with a Ouija board to make sure she wasn't rising for a comeback tour before I greenlit the cremation and filed for the death certificate.
Yet somehow the score was identical.
The frustrating part is that I consistently scored in the 160s on practice tests. That's literally all I need. I'm not trying to get into Harvard. I have a kid who's going to college in the time it will take me to blink twice and even entertain the thought of having another baby. I'm barely in my 30s still recovering from a daycare bill that already harvested one of my kidneys.
So I studied another 200 hours and took the LSAT again. One point higher. Rejected again. Apparently letters from law professors, equity partners, and nearly 10 years of legal experience are no match for getting five more questions right about evolutionary biology and a guy named Trevor's commute to work. You can manage a SCOTUS appeal (that I can't name drop or half the readers will hate me) but if you confuse the answer choice that flipped the names of the two feminist authors you had 3 minutes to read about you might subsequently kill 14 years of hopes and dreams in a matter of a few hours.
The annoying thing is that I'm not even a bad test taker. JD-Next? Great. Professional certification exams? Nearly perfect. The LSAT, however... I have theories. One is that I do not think in process of elimination. Get asked a question? Answer it. I am far better at free response style testing in general when the writers aren't given the opportunity to insert a few negatives into what could otherwise be a positively framed answer choice. The other is that legal work trains you to challenge plenty of assumptions presented to you. The LSAT says: "For purposes of this question, assume the author is telling the truth."
And somewhere deep in my litigation-trained brain a tiny voice immediately responds: "Objection. Foundation" & then I dwell and time escapes me. Trap answers start to look like the IG clickbait that convinced me to buy a shower harness for my German Shepherd. Then I review it, much like the shower harness, and feel like a moron.
But honestly, I've met phenomenal attorneys with mediocre LSAT scores and brilliant LSAT takers who failed the bar multiple times. So, if you're like me and have the working-memory capacity of a half-eaten baby carrot, I see you. We do the dance. We appease the gatekeepers. Nobody asks for our LSAT score ever again. Or maybe I bomb it one last time, quit law forever after 10 years building a non-attorney dream career in litigation, move to the woods, and become an oil painter with suspiciously strong opinions about John Roberts.
Either way, I'm taking it tomorrow. My husband already removed everything from the bathroom I could plug into the wall, so I'm not tempted to bathe with it in the meantime. My highest practice score so far is a 171. If I hit my modest goal of 164, I might actually call my dad after twelve years and ask him to lunch if he answers. Which means, in a very real way, the LSAT may finally do what years of therapy could not. If you check back in with me and my score is under a 160, I will definitely be in a white padded room (where I probably belong by now).
Think like a robot. May the force be with you.
I just took PT 150, and after scoring -5 to -2 for my timed LR sections for the past 2 weeks and improving slightly in my score for my RC sections I ended up getting around 10 questions wrong on both LR sections and was having trouble even finishing 3 LR passages in the time alloted. I had some trouble during the test, having to pause to move testing locations 3 times, so I assumed that was the problem. However, even on BR I find most of all the questions extrodinarily hard, almost like the writing style for the questions have completely changed from the earlier PTs. Is this an issue anyone else has been dealing with, and is it something I should expect on the upcoming LSATs?
How long did it take you guys to get through all the question types and start actually understand them atleast on a level 3/4 basis. I want to get through them thoroughly in 6 Weeks so far I got down MC, MSS, POI. I am aiming for Low to Mid 16os. and after I feel I mastered the Qtypes where would you suggest I go from there? I am aiming to take the test in November.
Good morning everyone,
I am taking the LSAT Saturday morning and this is my second attempt, I am not so nervous like before and have been scoring in the high 160s on practice tests. Helpful to know…..study the question types, find the premise and conclusion and eliminate the incorrect answer choices, do not burn yourself out overthinking and if frustrated take a break think positive and get back to it. Read slow pay attention to the wording, start picking your pace up and don’t waste too much time and keep it moving to the next. Everyone learning process is different but you got this.
Good luck to all that are taking the September test and stay positive!
Literally just finished the lsat. Won’t be discussing content or layout of the exam but I’m so relieved to be done. May have to take the October lsat I signed up for… I was finding it way more difficult than I expected.
Most annoying part is not getting the results immediately. And just waiting. Here’s to hoping I did better than expected 😭
If anyone took the September LSAT I hope you’re all proud of doing it regardless of the score. It takes a lot of mental strength to even study for and take the exam so that’s a huge accomplishment.
I just took the September LSAT! I’m so relieved that it’s over and that I can finally have free weekends lol. I’ve been studying for almost a year now and this is my second time taking it. I feel like I did good but nerves got to me in the beginning. Here’s my experience and tips for anyone anxious!
I was super nervous when the test started because I was psyched out about people watching me focus (lol), but I gradually got used to it as time went on later in the exam. If anyone also struggles with anxiety or adhd, I would recommend just staying calm and ignoring everything around you. Don’t psych yourself out or get frustrated if you can’t focus. Just take a breath and slowly read the stimulus. It’s ok if you’re slower than usual, just don’t stop and worry! It’s also ok if you find yourself wandering a bit, just correct yourself and you’ll hopefully become adjusted throughout the test.
Good luck to everyone else scheduled to take it! Hope everyone gets their target scores ⭐️
Hi!
To give a little background information , I have taken the LSAT multiple times and haven't scored higher than the mid 130's. I'm honestly not sure where to begin, how long to study, or if I should i purchase a tutor? I've taken a year off from studying to clear my mind and now I'm wanting to start back studying again, so I purchased 7 sage self pace study plan. The only thing is I am a hands on learner. I do plan to take the LSAT in fall of 2027; which i do have accommodations for, with extra time and removal of the experiential section. My overall LSAT goal is 150's or higher but I'm just not sure where to begin. I don't want to give up on my dream for law school nor give up on the LSAT!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :)
Thank you!
Technical issues during today's LSAT (Sept 11, RC-LR-LR-LR order) — what would you do?
Took the Sept 11 LSAT remotely today, section order RC, LR, LR, LR. Start was delayed by Prometric issues, then about 27 minutes into RC I got hit with a random security check that killed my focus. With around 10 minutes left to review, I found 2 answers weren't registering and I couldn't fix them. Proctor took a few minutes to respond, sent me to a support page that didn't work, phone support was just a bot, and by the time I reconnected the system skipped me straight into my break instead of letting me go back and fix those two questions.
Called LSAC during the break and they said I could cancel and try to get approved to retest Sept 22, October, or November. I ended up finishing the test since I'd prepped specifically for this date. Honestly felt confident on the LR sections but not RC.
This is also my 5th time taking it, so I don't know if they'll even let me sign up for November unless they grant me an exemption.
Has anyone dealt with something like this? Trying to decide between pushing for a test-taking-limit exemption to add an extra date, filing a complaint and hoping for a retest, or just leaving it as is. Any insight appreciated.
Hi folks, apologies but I don’t know where else to connect with other LSAT applicants on this: Asking as an ally, are there any mobilizing efforts/petitions currently in circulation directed at LSAC related to their decision on Iranian applicants and their implementation process? I imagine there has to be some kind of action from them that we can push for.
My heart goes out to all those impacted by this decision.
Sitting for the test in October, I’ve been in the high 150s and low 160s for the past 4 tests with a goal of 160 and just score a low 150 on my most recent practice test. With test day a month out should I be concerned?
Feeling a mix of nerves and excitement. I know being able to take this test is a privilege, just hoping all will go well! Good luck to everyone who either already took the Sept LSAT, or who are also taking it today, or tomorrow. We got this!
Hey! I’m looking for some studying advice from anyone who has been in a similar position or has some insight into what might be most efficient for me.
I took the LSAT twice last cycle without really having the fundamentals down because I convinced myself I had to apply that cycle. Obviously, that didn’t go as planned. I scored a 142 (only 1 point higher than my diagnostic) and then a 145 on my second attempt.
This time around, I joined 7Sage and decided to start completely from the bottom and really focus on understanding the fundamentals. I feel like I’m doing much better this time, but I’d love some advice on what I should be doing differently or adding to my preparation.
I haven’t taken many timed PTs yet because I know I’m not ready for them. For reference, I’ve been scoring around 152–157 on untimed LR sections. For RC, I’ve been doing individual passages at a time, and my accuracy has been pretty inconsistent. Some of my recent passage scores were:
Attempt 1: 100%
Attempt 2: 88%
Attempt 3: 67%
Attempt 4: 17%
Attempt 5: 88%
Attempt 6: 67%
Attempt 7: 71%
Attempt 8: 40%
Right now, every day I do one untimed practice section and 1–2 RC passages. I’m also restarting my wrong answer journal because I really want to make sure I’m learning from my mistakes instead of just moving on from them.
My goal is to take the November LSAT, and I’d really appreciate any advice on how I can make the most of the time I have left. Should I be doing more, doing less, changing my approach, or focusing on something specific at this stage?
If anyone has been in a similar position and ended up making a significant score increase, I’d especially love to hear what worked for you!
Hi everyone, I had a general strategy question. Do you recommend reading the question stem before reading the stimulus so you know what kind of information or reasoning to look for as you read?
I’ve noticed that some instructors seem to do this when working through examples, and I can see how it might help make the reading feel more purposeful. At the same time, I don’t want to build a habit that ends up slowing me down or hurting comprehension.
For those who have tried both approaches, do you find question-first helpful, or do you prefer reading the stimulus first and then looking at the question stem?
I took the LSAT today remotely. In the final 7 mins of the second section, I experienced a tech problem. I tried to "reset" the answers that I had previously hidden, during process of elimination. The answers would not reset and remained grayed out. I was unable to change my answer. I informed the remote proctor. They paused the test. When it resumed, the problem persisted.
I requested more help from the proctor. They didn't know what to do. I told them I wanted to call LSAC. They told me to exit Prometric and call them. When I started to exit the test, I got a message that said I may be forfeiting my answers if I exit. I wrote the proctor and said I did not want to lose all the hard work I had done on the first 2/3s of the test. I asked if there was another way to do it without losing my work. I waited. And waited. And waited. No reply. I asked numerous questions. No reply. 15-ish mins passed without any help (it had now been about 45 mins since the tech problem appeared). I said aloud for the recording, and also typed into the chat, that I needed to call LSAC for help. I said that I was going to get my cell phone and call them. I waited, to give time for feedback from the proctor. No one came to my aid to confirm if I could exit Prometric without losing my data, and no one told me that I couldn't call LSAC for help.
I then proceeded to get my cell phone and dial LSAC in front of the camera, all the while speaking aloud my plans in advance, and as I was doing what I was doing. No word from the proctor. As soon as LSAC picked up my call, a Prometric security agent came on the mic and told me that I had violated the no-phone policy and my test was invalidated, and I was being kicked out of the test. No help whatsoever, and then BOOM.
I will be filing an official complaint with LSAC. (Other test challenges included different remote proctors applying rules differently for my accommodations, resulting in unnecessary room scans and wasted time.)
Have any other recent test takers run into a similar problem, where you couldn't select or edit an answer choice? I'm terrified to retest and get almost done only to run into the problem again...
I hope my story helps some other remote test takers. I still don't know if exiting Prometric would have saved or lost my testing data. And I don't know if the tech problem could have been resolved. (I'm assuming I would have had to retest no matter what.) But whatever you do, no matter how awful the proctors are being and no matter how long it takes, do NOT call LSAC until AFTER the test is done.
I’ve been studying for the last for a while now, every time I test I score higher, butttt recently I took PT 149 and scored low 140s which I know I rushed through without the extra time I was granted for accommodation ,I scored 150 on November 2025 LSAT… I’ve had a hard time scoring higher than 150 on a full test. The weird part is when taking full sections my scores are always predicted to be in the 156-160s on 7Sage but when I taking full test it’s never there… CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME POINTERS on how to hit my target score? In aiming for 160 by November lsat. I can say that I understand the foundations it’s just the trick answers that I feel I always get caught up with, or it’s more to it that I’m not understanding. I’m currently working on a wrong answer journal but not sure how much it could help to increase my score for full test
Recently, LSAC has mandated in-person testing, unless exempt. Even if exempt for virtual testing, you now have to have TWO cameras on you. Your laptop webcam, and a camera facing your computer. To anyone who knows someone that cheated .. we know exactly why this requirement came up specifically for virtual test takers
Leading to the question, how many were cheating? Well lets take a look at the hard evidence. Here are the facts:
The number of LSAT Applicant tests have increased by 30% 2022 to 2026
The LSAT Median (155-159) has increased similarly at 26% .. so far so good, normal distribution with added applicants.
An !!!!!! 85% !!!!! increase in (175-180) scorers. Nearly DOUBLING the top line.
Any addition, or subtraction, from applicants STATISTICALLY SHOULD result in the same distribution range. We know LSAT has been very fair with creating a system for their two LRs and one RCs to keep an even playing field for all applicants. Even with the dropping of logic games, an ALMOST DOUBLING on the top line would be unheard of.
My Thesis:
LSAC realized what was going on too late, and now the cheating scores are still applying for Law School slots. It will be many years before they are all taking in, and we see the medians drop back down. LSAC will not admit that is the reason for the rule change, as that will open up scrutiny on their monopoly for the test for entry to Law School.
You 👏do 👏 not 👏owe👏your👏LSAT👏anything👏
For those who have taken the exam, I was wondering how does the interface look like on the actual exam. Does it have the same features as the 7sage? Also is there any difference between both?
So I took the September LSAT and I plan on taking the November one. I just don’t know where to start with studying over again. I feel like I may need to get a deeper understanding of the foundation a little bit more but I don’t know how I should go about remaking my study plan, how much reviewing and practice I should do. Also on top of the study plan what else should I be doing, I have the loophole book, should I review that, should I be drilling. I’m not sure where I should start again to be the most effective for November.
As my October LSAT approaches, I was just wondering how similar the real test compares in difficulty to the preptests. If im scoring between 160-165 consistently, should I expect that on my official test?
Hi! Trying to understand exactly how the 10 minute intermission works in the prometric test center, can anyone who has taken before confirm?
Finish section 2 —> intermission screen pops up automatically —> walk out of room, tell proctor you are on break when you pass them at the door —> go to the bathroom or locker to get a snack, but don’t touch phone —> go back to proctor and they check you in? —> re-enter room —> click Continue to Step 2 button as soon as 10 minutes is up? Right before 10 minutes is up? —> proctor completes another check-in process?? —> once proctor checks you in section 3 automatically begins?
I emailed LSAC as soon as I realized I couldn't schedule my argumentative writing sample (I have timing accommodations and need a live proctor) and I still haven't heard back... my test is Saturday... Tried calling the tech support line and they couldn't really help... but the link is just straight up not showing up for me on LSAC, LMAO I'm freaking out because I kind of need my score to get released on time so that I can figure out if I need to take Oct or not (I'm registered for both) any guidance would be useful! I'm going to try calling again tomorrow and see if maybe I can get a better answer.
If I get my arg writing done soon after the test what are my odds of getting my score on time?
EDIT: Solved! The problem was that my writing sample was linked to my October test instead of my September test for some reason, and they fixed it for me over the phone! I'm all scheduled now for Wednesday! Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to the person who helped me realize what the problem was! Good luck to those taking the last few tests in Sept!
Hey everyone! I am about a month out from the October LSAT and am still not where I want to be. I am not doing great when I take a full PT but in my blind review my score shoots up to over what I want. I am wondering if anyone has any tips or if anyone has struggled with this and gotten out of it!


