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Thursday, Oct 28, 2021

Bumpy Road but Done

151 --> 145 --> 162 and finally done! I almost completely gave up after getting a lower score my second time around but am so happy I got over it and decided to give this test another shot, test anxiety definitely got to me on the second writing. Thank you 7sage and everyone that has shared their experiences on here!!!

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Hey y'all

Writing in here to see if anyone has any advice for making gains on RC - Reading Comp:

I'm taking the November test as my last session before applying, and have not been able to figure out how to improve on RC. On average, I score perfect on Logic Games, and I average 1-3 wrong on LR; which are immense improvements from my original diagnostic range of -4 and -8. For RC however, my gains are not where I would like them to be. I started out in the 8-12 range (terrible I know) and have been able to trim that down to 4-7. Although I have made some solid progress, it just seems like i'm missing something on RC and this is costing me a T-14 score. For LG/LR, when I get a question wrong, it's almost always due to a mistake that I am able to recognize and internalize. I am also able to address the areas that I struggle with, and can address them accordingly. For RC, I realize that there are a couple questions on RC that will simply be too difficult for me to get right. However, my issue is that I continue to miss out on questions that are 50/50, and seem to be making a lot of the same mistakes on the same question types, even after Blind Reviewing for hours. After almost two years of practice, my time spent on passages has barely improved. I average almost 4-5 minutes on the passage, use the highlight functions to a large extent, and occasionally jot down Low-Res summaries for paragraphs.

At this point, i'm not sure if I can say that my issue is a practice thing. I just wish there was some way I could hone in on RC through some supplemental means, resources, courses, books, or exercises that could give me some tips and pointers.

If anyone has any advice that helped them improve on RC, any supplemental resources that they could recommend, or a general diagnosis for my situation, I would appreciate it tremendously.

Best of luck to all of you guys on your Law School journeys, keep grinding!

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Hello, I'm taking the November LSAT which is just over two weeks away -- at what point did this section click and what advice would you give to get to that point? I used to think about LR as distinct question types but the past month or so I've noticed that almost all question types have similar patterns in their flaws (if argument-based). During BR I'm missing 2-3 but during timed sessions still missing about 7. Any advice for getting around not seeing the arguments clearly during timed practices? Sometimes there are stimuli that I just don't understand when timed but when I BR, it's like DUH! Of course! Any advice getting around that? Advice regarding timing for both LR and RC would be appreciated also. Thank you!

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Hi everyone!

Second time writer here (first exam was January 2021). I scheduled my November exam this morning, but for some reason the ProctorU countdown timer has added an additional hour from the actual time I picked. The correct time zone is showing on the scheduled date and time, it is just the timer that is off. From my previous experience with ProctorU in January, I am aware that once the timer runs out, you can start the check in process for your exam.

I tried to chat with a live agent about this to fix the timer but they told me to simply check back 2 days prior to the exam.

Has anyone else had a similar experience? Thank you!

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Thank you 7sage. I began studying for this test in March 2020 and can finally say I am done with it in October 2021.

I began with a diagnostic of 148. I took the test in June and got a 159, but knowing I had more potential stuck to studying for the Oct LSAT. I was so close to the median for a lot of great schools and knew I could increase my odds by a lot just by raising my score a little bit more. I ended with a 163 this October. I know it’s not a 175 like many people strive for, but for me the 15 point increase and 40 point percentile increase is more than enough to be proud of. I am confident in my ability to get into some amazing schools with this score. 7sage is what got me over the hump and I’m forever grateful.

For those who got their score back and are realizing that their LSAT journey isn’t over, you got this. There were weeks and months I thought I would never break 155. I truly believed I had reached my peak 7 months ago. Remember what you’re studying for- the reason you are going to law school in the first place. We put in the hard work now so that we can make a meaningful difference in people’s lives later on.

While a 163 may seem like nothing special, I fought so hard for it and I’m extremely proud of myself and this community.

Good job my friends!

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Hey everyone, I just took PT91 on lawhub and was wondering if anybody would be willing to help me out with a few explanations for some of the questions, specifically:

22: I chose E but not for any particular reason other than I didn't want to waste more time than needed on the question.

23: I can sort of see why AC (A) is the correct answer and if I read it more carefully I would've probably chose it but I chose AC (B) instead. I was stuck between both answers but in my head I was thinking AC (B) was correct because of how the last sentences says "cannot be caused by a simple phenomenon"

24: Was stuck between AC (C + D) ended up choosing C because of the time constraint and failed to realize that the use of 'some animals' obviously implies humans. Just wanted to confirm that C mentioning the precise location of genes is completely irrelevant to weakening the argument.

Much thanks to anyone who decides to explain these to me!

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Is anyone else having an issue signing up through ProctorU right now? I got the email from LSAC to sign up but when I tried scheduling a test time it shows "no active exams". When I tried to schedule an exam under "schedule a new session" it only offers my undergraduate institution as an option, not LSAC.

Anyone else experiencing this? ProctorU is a mess and I'm worried this won't be solved anytime soon. Anyone had any luck?

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Anyone have any advice on how to handle the last two weeks before test day? I'm planning on taking one or two more PT's over the next few days and then to focus more on drilling/reviewing before the November LSAT. My last 5 rolling PT's are averaging at my goal score, so I'm feeling like I'm less in the 'learning' mindset and more in the 'execution' one.

I'm pretty consistently going -0 to -2 on games, so I haven't been practicing it much these past few months. Loosely my plan is to really focus back in on games heading into the test, just to make sure I'm up to speed and not rusty. Not sure if I should continue taking full LR and RC sections or switch to drilling. Or just keep on keeping on with PTs.

How are you all preparing?

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I'm rarely one to make a public discussion post like this, but I want to express my gratitude to 7Sage and encourage others to give it a shot.

In September 2019, I got a 156 after using PowerScore. I re-took in November 2020 after studying w/ Khan Academy, and saw a marginal score increase (162), but I was still nowhere near my goal score. I started w/ 7Sage in March of 2021 and told myself this would be the last time.

The 7Sage core curriculum helped me tremendously. Starting with such a great foundation (and treating my LSAT studying like an online class) really helped to raise my floor score. I found myself performing with greater consistency and was confident going into test day (a strange feeling!). Anyways, all this to say that I have been thoroughly impressed w/ 7Sage, and after having used other popular methods like PowerScore and Khan, I can say that this was the best prep regiment I tried hands-down. Excited to never have to think about this test ever again!

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The 7sage video says that the stim. says:

S -> (U or C)

thus, S -> (C -> U)

But this doesn't seem right?

Shouldn't the contrapositive instead be: (U and C) -> S ?

This question is in general very frustrating and confusing, but I need to understand how J.Y. came to the conclusions he came to.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-3-question-24/

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I was consistently PTing in the low-mid 160s and BRing in the upper 160s. I just got my score back and it was 9 points lower than my most recent PT and two points lower than my August score. I am so discouraged and disappointed in myself. I know this test isn’t an intelligence test, but it sure feels like it. Going on over a year of studying and making gains right before this test, I was feeling so confident. I’m just at a loss for words and don’t know where to go from here. Sad.

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Got 161 at Oct 2020, Jan 2021 and oct 2021.

I feel like the whole year had been wasted.

I scored 168 on both of the newest PTs, and I feel really confident at the October test.

Anyways, congrats to all who get what you want.

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I am currently scoring around 172 with about -2 LR. People say the best way to learn is to teach, so I think if I explain my thought process in LR it will allow me finally close this gap. I could probably only be helpful for those scoring 164 and below. I'll probably be studying for a while today so feel free to stop by I'll just leave the zoom link here: https://nyu.zoom.us/j/9958274382

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Started studying in June 2021. Have been studying pretty hard, especially since August. My diagnostic in June was a 149. Knowing I had an uphill battle to get to my target grade by October/November 2021 (I need to apply this cycle for personal reasons) I studied my @ss off...

  • Read all of PowerScore Logic Games (in my diagnostic, LG was by far the worst as I barely got past the first game...)
  • Read all of the LSAT Trainer by Kim
  • Read quite a bit of LSAT Prep Plus from Kaplan. Not all.
  • Got into 7Sage in August. Went through most of core curriculum (I did skip over sections I was very comfortable with and PT-ing well on due to time constraints) and also started PT'ing like crazy.
  • Between August and October test I completed all PT's. Every single one.
  • Since October and now I have tried to rest up as I was fairly worn out but I'm registered for the November test (wanted a backup) and have started to get back into my studying.
  • I am now redoing my oldest PT's. I would estimate at this point I have done upward of 130 full-length PT's since June 2021.
  • My issue is I'm just not seeing improvement in LG. RC I typically get -0 to -2. LR, I'm between -0 and -4. Realistically, I don't think I can improve those sections a huge amount more between now and November and in any case I would not need to but...ugh, LG...

    LG I have achieved -0 before but it's kind of a freak occurrence. My all-time average is -5 but realistically I am very lucky to ever get below -4 and have, recently, got -7 on LG! I also typically always get -0 on Blind Review so it's not like I don't know what I'm doing, it just never quite goes smoothly on the timed sections, generally because I end up rushing at least one game or just falling for some trap answer. Or doing something dumb like splitting inappropriately. Kind of mistakes that I feel I should have overcome by now with this level of practice and stufy.

    I don't really struggle on any particular game type other than 'misc', a little, but I'm not sure how one can really work on a 'miscellaneous' game type, because it is miscellaneous. So yeah, I'm really at a loss, especially given how many folks seem to find this the easiest section to consistently perfect and I feel like if I can't get consistently to a -2 then the 170 goal is always going to be out of reach. The October test was brutal for me for LG.

    What REALLY annoys me is that this has been the case since at least September and I'm not sure what more I can do about it. I don't think I have time to re-do the curriculum or really spend a ton of time working on it because I work full time and definitely need to continue to maintain sharpness on the other sections so those don't slip. It's almost like I just need a little hack or 10 extra minutes or something. If only LSAC would give me accommodations!

    Anyway, mainly just venting ...nd sort of wondering if anyone else is in a similar boat? Or has perhaps got themselves out of said boat? I don't have the best GPA so the high LSAT is really important to me. I'm also an older student, otherwise I'd take a year and get a tutor ;)

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    Am I the only one who is genuinely feeling pooped after the OCT LSAT? I signed up for November but my studying has been almost non-existent since my test. I feel awful because I should've kept pushing but I've been studying since June 2020 and my brain is fried.

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    I am having a really hard time with RC. When I do full PT's and timed reading sections I am running out of time or rushing and getting -7 to -10 wrong. I definitely think that it is a timing issue because I have done 2 untimed reading sections and gotten -1 and -2. I am hoping to get down to -5 or less on RC in the next couple of weeks before the November test. What can I do to improve my timing? Any advice/tips/strategies is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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    Can anyone explain to me how the new scoring is going to work and how I should prep for this with PTs? I'm registered for the November 13th test date and have been taking regular LSAT PTs. But I just realized that the new LSAT is a bit different and I have no idea how to adjust my score to reflect what I might actually get on the exam.

    On my latest PT, I scored a 162 with a raw score of 78/100. Now that the test will only be three graded sections, how will this change my score? How many can I count on being able to miss in order to get a 170?

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