Hi! I am making my way through core curriculum and completing the questions assigned each day along with watching the lessons. I did notice when looking at my analytics that I have not drilled many questions and I was wondering if people suggest to up my drilling once I've finished core or if they recommend doing it alongside core? I know I am learning concepts but I worry that I am not putting in enough time or practice. Is there like a 'homework' plan alongside the lessons? Can anyone also lmk how long they spent in between testing and completing core just drilling, attending live classes and doing PTs? Much appreciated :)
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this was my 5th practice test, other two were on LSAC and were 138 and 135. I started studying in september early, with the lsat trainer book clearly didn't help me just taught me the basics i guess, i finished it, and have had 7 sage for barely a month. Since i have been going down i went back to the foundations and core curriculum for about 3 weeks now. I feel like doing the core curriculum things are starting to click and i wanted to take a prep test just to see where im at. do you guys reccomend sticking to foundations and not doing preptests or should i keep doing them weekly? My goal is to take april lsat aiming for 160+
Please give me advice w out discouraging me more than i already am
I took a practice test a few months ago for the first time and got a 161. I did not study additional LSAT material since then, but I retook a different practice test just now and got a 168. I have a lower GPA so I need a higher LSAT score for law school admissions. My goal is a 171+ but hopefully around the 173-174 range. Should I go ahead with schedule and take the LSAT that I am signed up for in January, do intense prep until then, and risk having to retake in the future? Or should I reschedule for later in the year when I have prepped more so I only have one good attempt on my record?
I started studying for the LSAT in the beginning of September and spend about 2 hours a day studying for the exam. I originally planned to take the LSAT in February, but am now considering taking it in April because I am not sure I feel ready. I really want to score high 150s - 160. Is it bad that I am pushing off this test? Is about 7 months of studying, 1-2 hours a day good?
I took the LSAT in August, took a break 3 month break from studying, and I'm ready to get back into it! Does anyone have any advice on the best way to resume studying?
I’m new to this discussion forum and currently preparing for the LSAT. I really like how structured the 7Sage lessons are, especially for logic games and logical reasoning. Sometimes the preparation feels overwhelming, but following a clear plan helps a lot. One thing I’m learning during LSAT prep is how important attention to detail is. Small mistakes in assumptions or timing can change the whole answer. This mindset is helpful not only for exams but also in real life work. In my daily job, I also deal with detailed planning and calculations, like working on moisture protection estimating services, where accuracy and careful review are very important. I feel these skills connect well with LSAT thinking.
Wishing best of luck to everyone studying, and happy to be part of this community.
Hi everyone, just wanted to share a review tip that has been really helpful for me. I have found it really helpful during some of my review to talk through sections outloud in real time, recording my entire process on a voice memo app (Macs have a really good one built in). This process allows me to get a real picture of my thinking and process for every question. I found that way to often I was reviewing questions and the only feedback I had for myself was "oh man this was so obvious, what a stupid mistake" but this didn't help me understand why I actaully made that mistake, or why I preffered one answer choice over another.
By doing this for sections and pts, I have been able to allocate review time much better, and to accurately diagnose my wrong answers without the hinderance of hindsight clouding my process.
Good luck, and hope this helps someone.
To take a practice test for the first time to see my starting point to take my improvement, should I just take a prep test on 7Sage or where should I take this test?
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I've been studying for almost 3 months (1st with the core curriculum and then with drills and live classes), but my PT scores haven't changed. I notice I do understand the test more, but I'm struggling to decide how to structure my study moving forwards. Should I target slower understanding or drills with more pace? Some guidance would be appreciated! Currently planning on the February LSAT>
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Hi guys, just curious what do you do to get into that laser focus and flow state? Should I drink coffee or energy drink or some kind of supplement? I seem to zone out sometimes during my PT's unfortunately. Thanks for the help!
I just reached the Practice block sections of 7sage. I generated the blocks and was curious how 7Sage determines what questions and topics they give you? Do I need to manually edit my preferences, or does it use analytics from previous drills/practice questions I did during the curriculum. I want to make sure I am practicing in the weak areas as well as hitting all different question types.
As the title states, I just need a bit more clarification on how to know when I need to find an answer that asks me to identify the missing link, rather than an answer that, if negated, would weaken the argument.
I recently attempted this question and was stumped to find that I needed to find an answer that was the missing link.
Hi everyone! I'm wondering if anyone has advice for struggling with the PTs in the 150s. I know a lot of prep companies etc. say that there isn't much that is different about these newer exams, and it's oftentimes just test anxiety that makes people do worse, but I uniquely score below my median only on certain exams in the 150s (specifically 150 itself, 151 and 152 were most difficult for me).
For anyone else who has this issue, were there specific question types, etc you worked on drilling? I'm wondering what I can do or hone to make sure that this no longer is somewhat of a blind spot for me. For the most part, I get tripped up in these RC sections, but also on LR questions with atypical ACs (as opposed to one question type more so than the others).
Just did it and each section dropped like 8 points, it's actually depressing. Hopefully someone might know why that is or maybe my skill went randomly down.
Hey everyone! I am a junior in college and I am just now starting my journey in preparing for the LSAT. I am a division one athlete so time is limited but I am willing to put in the work to get a grade that represents my abilities. I was wondering if there are any tips or recommendations that y'all swear by as I am starting this process!!
I do well on most other stems but MSS is the most difficult one by far on every prep test i get them most of them wrong or all wrong but i do a lot better with every other stem, If you know a decent strategy to help with this please say it below. Thank You
I noticed the You Try questions are not included in the analytics overview by default, but was told by support that you could manually toggle them to be included. I don't consult notes and try to mimic test conditions as closely as possible whether its a drill or a You Try question and when I toggled all of the questions to be included, my drilling accuracy when from 44% to 69%. Happy to see that jump up since the pool went from 17 drill questions to 149 comprehensive questions but wondering how I should understand this information. Did I skew my data to be more comprehensive and useful or did I give myself leeway? ( As I type this out I will say, maybe what I didn't consider was that the analytics may be more useful when I get to my PT weeks and I won't want the You Try data included, but let me know your thoughts!)
side note to dev team: It would be cool to have a select all + filter option to where we could filter for the specific types of q's we want in analytics (ex: able to filter between You Try + PT + Drills and see different cuts of data to help measure performance pre-PT by relying on You Try and Drills, and then being able to just see PT results during PT stage.
Hi everyone! First post here.
Decided to write my question here because honestly I didn't know where else to direct my question (that said please let me know if there is a better forum for these types of inquiries.)
My question is: can anyone please help explain how the "Most Strongly Supported" (MSS) questions in LR and "Implied" questions in RC are different? I've been approaching them pretty much as identical question types that can be approached with the same type of reasoning mode (e.g. spectrum of support diagram) but it seems like -- having gone through hundreds of these questions thus far -- there is actually a small but significant difference between the two question types.
Would welcome any advice on this (+ moral support is also welcome!) from my fellow LSATers! Cheers and good luck to all :)
Good afternoon everyone. i've been studying for the LSAT for at least a year now and i've been practicing using Lawhub and 7sage. As of now my LR sections barely improved and im still between 10-15 per section. If you scored high, what have you done better that is different? how do you read each question? I got a test coming in January but im gonna probably register for March because that is my last real chance for a good score
Currently my only high priority LR question type is Conditional Reasoning, and Causal Reasoning is one of my only medium priority.
Are the only lessons on these question types the foundational ones?
So I am doing a WAJ, but how do I use it effectively and when should I review it and whatnot. It would help a lot thanks!
If i plan to take the April LSAT for the first time, what should my studying look like right now? I currently have the core curriculum on 7sage and it is set to finish with all the foundations & what not by the beginning of February. Then, I go into practice for 8 weeks and final prep for 1 week before the lsat. Should I be simultaneously practicing drills while doing the foundations curriculum?
I finally am starting to see this all pay off before the January test! Got my first -4 and -2 on BR for an LR section! After an embarrassing slump in the November test, I think we're all in for a treat in January! (Knock on wood). Shoutout the new WAJ feature in the notes, it's been so good to force myself to reflect.
relationships
comparative
some intersection
relatas:
cause vs effect
paragraph 1 vs 2
phenomenon vs hypothesis
support (relatas: premise vs conclusion)
aim: persuasion (subjective)
relationship 2
(clauses linked together to emphasize relationships)
disjunction
conditional claims (sufficient and necessary condition)
indicators
unless
causal claims (cause and effect)
indicators
because
analogies (one thing is like another thing)
source vs target clause
indicators
just as
comparatives
two things that stand in comparison to each other w one of two coming on top
a vs b (what are you comparing)
quality/characteristic of comparison
identify “winner”
negative comparatives
when comparatives have “no” or “not” there may be no clear winner
ex: allison is not taller than jake
implied comparatives
no than in the statement
ex: tom is feeling better today, cafes are busier during the morning rush
relative vs absolute
comparatives are usually relative without making absolute statements but context can sometimes imply absolute qualities
ex: jake is not taller than allison and they play basketball
they are likely tall, but it is not absolute
equivalence
i am older than you=you are younger than me
arguments
an argument consists of premises and a conclusion that aims to persuade
support structures the argument, and support depends on assumptions
assumptions are a “forgotten” premise that can be subtle
less reasonable assumptions render an argument vulnerable to criticism
Valid arguments (on the LSAT) require no additional unstated assumptions for the conclusion to follow from the premises.
Invalid arguments require at least one necessary assumption.
wonder “what the author wants me to believe” and “why should i believe this”
conclusion indicators (words followed by a conclusion)
consequently
therefore
as a result
clearly
it follows that
accordingly
we may conclude
it entails
hence
thus
we may infer that
it must be that
it implies that
that is why
premise indicators (words followed by premise)
given that
seeing that
for the reason that
owing to
as indicated by
after all
on the grounds that
words that are followed by a premise but also contain a conclusion
for
because
since
types of questions
Must Be True questions
phenomenon-hypothesis
causation logic
subconclusion: claim that receives and gives support
Premise: All dogs are adorable.
Premise: Fluffers is a dog.
Sub-conclusion: Therefore, Fluffers is adorable.
Premise: All adorable things are cute.
Conclusion: Fluffers is cute.
sub arguments make a complex argument
context (used as referent for referential phrase)
table setting
information explaining a premise
other peoples position
an opposite conclusion they claim is incorrect
concession
making the opposing argument before the other can
context transition indicators
but
however
yet
some people say
concession indicators
despite
in spite of
although
though
even though
even if
notwithstanding
while
clause
subject
gerund or noun
predicate
verb/object
subject vs predicate noun modifier indicators
that
who
predicate modifier indicators
of
by
in
for
(where, how, when, why )
predicate object indicator
the
object clause
that can be used to make a clause the subject
indicator
that
ex: scientists discovered that the sky is blue
referent
stands in place of something that appeared earlier
negative: not that (other/otherwise)
rhetorical questions
implied declarative statement for dramatic effect (more persuasive)
logic
formal
form of argument matters more than content (valid/invalid)
includes
conditional logic (sufficient/necessary conditions)
logic btwn sets
supersets, subsets, intersecting sets, and membership in those sets
main concern is what must be true
informal (typical of reading comprehension
all other types of logic
causation
analogies
generalization
scientific reasoning
rule application reasoning
cost-benefit analysis
misc
subject to be made stronger or weaker
how well supported
sets
set: abstract collection of members
membership: something belongs to such set
when a set is inside a set
superset: larger one
subset: smaller one
sufficiency vs necessity conditions
subset membership is sufficient for superset membership but not necessary
superset membership is necessary for subset membership but not sufficient
subset is to superset as sufficiency is to necessity
if dot is in cat-set, it is sufficient to know the dot is inside mammal-set
membership in a mammal-set is necessary for membership in cat-set
membership in mammal-set is not sufficient for membership in cat-set (membership in cat-set is not necessary for membership in mammal-set)
conditional argument (formal argument)
when sufficient condition is true, the necessary condition is also true
Membership in Set A is sufficient for membership in Set B. X is a member of Set A. Therefore, X is a member of Set B
conditional indicators (logical indicators)
the idea immediately following the conditional indicator is the sufficient condition
If X, Y
when
where
all
every
any
the only
the idea immediately following the conditional indicator is the necessary condition
only
only if
only when
only where
always
must
truth vs validity
truth is property of claims (true vs false)
validity is property of arguments (valid/invalid)
validity: if (or pretend that) all the premises are true, then the conclusion must also be true.
“lawgic”
→ establishes a conditional relationship
sufficient condition (left side) to a necessary condition (right side)
subscripts represent membership of set
L^J represents Luke's membership in the set of Jedi.
conditional argument shape:
categorical syllogism
A → B
x^A
____
x^B
OR
modus ponens
sufficient → necessary
sufficient
____
necessary
