Hi everyone,

Sorry if this was mentioned somewhere before, like maybe in the CC, but I am really looking for an LR study strategy that is as thorough and ordered as the LG fool proof method (which I have began applying to RC using PTs 1-35)...

My average for LR is -10 to -11 timed and -6 to -7 in BR. I have done four full PTs and the analytics tell me that Flaw and NA are my worst areas. However, I have done a number of LR sections and had the same results with no clear pattern of question type that sticks out. Now, I have done the CC for LR twice at this point and really don't want to do it for a third time. Especially since I feel I have made improvements since doing it before (especially in relation to conditional logic.)

Some have told me just to drill different question types but I'm not sure what that means... How do I put them together? Do I start by doing them timed and then do BR? How many should I do and how often? If anyone has suggestions on how to design a structured and targeted LR study strategy, similar to the LG fool proof method, it would be greatly appreciated...

If any tutors are reading this, I am considering employing one to help me for the December and/or February LSAT - I definitely have to apply for this cycle, I have been at this almost full-time for one year now.

Thanks!

Hey all,

I am planning on taking the December LSAT and, with that date looming, I am really trying to break from the high/mid-160s and move into the 170s (and beyond!). I have been reading a bunch throughout these forums with regards to study schedules, but I haven't found anything that seems to be of much help to me.

So, without further ado, I was wondering what you all suggest as my plan of attack? I have already completed the CC and done every logic game from 1 - 10, in addition to some PTests. I figured that I should try and tackle about a practice test every other day, with an intense BR session in between each test. Should I use PTests 11 - 35 to drill each section (RC is my weakest, but I could use improvement on everything, not to mention that I still have a bunch of tests I still have yet to see)? Or should I just take those as full PTests in addition?

Thank you in advance for your help!

In the lesson Valid Argument Forms 4 - 9 of 9, a corollary to valid form 6 is introduced that reads—

A –> C

B –> C

∴ /A some /B

I understand how this form follows logically and how it relates to valid form 6, but it seems as though the /A some /B conclusion would NOT hold under the following scenario despite adhering to both initial premises.

Imagine you have A's.

A

A

A

All A's are C's.

AC

AC

AC

Imagine you have B's.

AC

AC

AC

B

B

B

All B's are C's (in this case, A and B do not intersect, without loss of generality).

AC

AC

AC

BC

BC

BC

Now, the inference should be "some non-A's are non-B's," however from the above scenario, all non A's ARE B's. Can somebody reconcile the above scenario with the valid argument form?

I've seen this example brought up in the lesson's comments section, however I have not seen it addressed directly.

Thanks!

Hey guys! Here's the official Feb. LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the Feb. 2017 LSAT here!

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Sept. '17 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about September's LSAT!

Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/12783/september-2017-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

Have fun discussing!

On the December dates & deadlines page it says that the test will be administered on December 2, and the score release date will be January 4. That's almost five weeks...I thought that it's supposed to be three. Am I missing something?

https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/test-dates-deadlines/2017-2018/us-canada-dec

Although of all the sections I feel probably most secure about RC, I'd love to hear any suggestions of prep tests with particularly difficult RC passages.

So i recently refreshed my fundementals on these 2 question types and im running into and issue that,i think, LSAC is playing on.

According to JY NA ACs make a bridge or a block.

Wouldnt blocking a potential argument strengthen it? And similarily for bridging?

Overheard:

How many questions guessed:

#real lsats taken prior:

Expected score:

Cancel - y/n:

Timing issues y/n

Sorry for the randomness;)

Hey all,

So, like a lot of people it seems, I really struggled with the RC section of the Sept 2017 test and will almost certainly need to retake the test. However, since I already spent 5ish months studying and drilling for the September test, I only have 10-12 full PTs left. How do I space out these exams? How do I dill if I've already seen a lot of the questions before? Are there external sources that can help nail down RC?

Having a hard time deciphering answer choice D correctness. Particularly, i am not being able to get over my thinking that D assumes that marks were formed at the place where sandstone was formed. I mean, the marks were formed somewhere else and sandstone was moved to where it was find millions of years after the marks were formed let's say by an earthquake or stuff. Isn't it plausible?

Also, why can't some "early life forms" from answer choice C can leave those marks?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-2-question-14/

Was the logic games section where one of the variables was Shakespearean something the real one or experienental?

What is your pre-exam breakfast/drink plan?

RANDOM POST BUT I'M SO HYPE RIGHT NOW

EVERYTHING WE'VE WORKED SO HARD HAS BEEN FOR THIS DAY. AND THIS DAY IS HERE!

Why some say 180?

Why choose this as our goal?

And they may well ask, why climb the highest mountain?

Why 35 years ago fly the Atlantic?

Why does Rice play Texas?!?!

WE CHOOSE TO GET 180

WE CHOOSE TO GET 180 TOMORROW AND DO THE OTHER THING

NOT BECAUSE IT IS EASY, BUT BECAUSE IT IS HARD!

BECAUSE THAT GOAL WILL SERVE TO ORGANIZE AND MEASURE THE BEST OF OUR ENERGIES AND SKILLS

BECAUSE THAT CHALLENGE IS ONE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT

ONE WE ARE UNWILLING TO POSTPONE

AND ONE WE INTEND TO WIN

I'll see you in Valhalla brothers (and sisters).

Hi,

I'm taking the test tomorrow and I only have a printer with black & white ink to print out my ticket. My photo looks fine...is it okay that my ticket isn't in color?

I'm not too sure what to do, I mean, I'm not doing PTs yet - I just want to focus on improving on each section before starting ahead w the PTs. Should I just keep working away at sections from PTs for LR? Is that the best way to improve?

I find in the LR section that it's not a particular type of question that kills my score, but the timing. I notice that I get a few questions wrong in the dead center of the test and then the last few questions. In the middle of the test, I believe my mind tends to wander just to check the time and I get a little more stressed at that point when I realize how much time I have. This also happens at the end when they announce "5 minutes" are left because even though it is a lot of time, I feel like it never is.

Any advice on continuing to focus, without completely ignoring time?

Hey guys,

I am almost finished with the CC, but I was just wondering how many of you actually watched all of the LR videos (ie. all the flaw question videos leading up to the problem sets). I have taken a course before that I didn't find to be helpful so I feel like watching 15 flaw videos aren't really helpful to me at this point since I have a pretty good understanding of watching just a few of the videos.

What have you guys done? Did you watch them only to become more familiar with how JY tackles a question or did you watch all of them? Or did you come back to them once you felt like you were still struggling with the problem sets?

Thanks :)

Hi friends,

After reviewing some mistakes from one last practice test and making sure I got my stuff down, I decided that these next two days (Thursday and Friday) will be LSAT hiatus for me. I am a firm believer in resting my mind before standardized tests. Before I log off, I just want to say I wish you all the very best. I know many of us are going in on Saturday with our minds ready for this to be over.

As someone who has been studying for this test for over a year and has put her heart and soul in it, I've come to realize this. People who study for this test are truly brave and ambitious souls. This web platform is fantastic and I'm truly greatful for the advice I've been getting. Thank you to 7sage especially JY and Dillon.

All the very best to all of you. Be kind to yourselves when you go in there tomorrow and know that if you've done everything you can to prepare, you're good to go.

Peace,

Shireen.

Well, over 20 test centers in Florida have cancelled their administration of Saturday's test. LSAC has confirmed that there will be a makeup scheduled. Is anyone familiar with the protocol for makeup exams? What does the curve for a makeup exam look like? Any information you have about what to expect is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

I am currently finishing the section in about 36.45 minutes. I have just started drilling RC today after realising my issue with the timing.

When I do individual passages I usually do it in 9-10 minutes with -0 but with timed sections it's closer to -5 or -6.

I'm also worried about bubbling in the answers within the 35 minutes, as right now i spend close to 4m on reading and about 6 min with the answers which gives me hardly enough time to even finish all the questions :(

I'm slightly worried, I'm planning to take the December Lsat, is it possible for me to reach my goal of -2 within time by then?

Any strategies, turning points stories would be great!

Thanks :)

Just wondering what you guys look oit for whilst reviewing tape

Should we see something similar in PT 82 on Sat? ... Is there any sort of a pattern or just varies? ... Prepare for the worst I guess?

Hey all! Just like the title says, I am starting to get more and more curve-breaker questions and then I begin to severely overthink some of the easier questions and miss them. Has this happened to anyone else? Anyone else have any tips?

Thanks!

I'm supposed to take my first LSAT this weekend. I just hit my target score on my 6th PT after 2 months of solid studying. I'm torn on whether to take the September test to get the experience under my belt and about a middle of the road score (155) or postpone and take the test for the first time in December and hopefully achieve my goal of being in the low-mid 160s. Any advice?

Hey all,

So I realize J.Y's general rule for when to use a chart vs. when to use a standard grouping game board is that if the variables are only used once (are exhaustible) than use the regular grouping game board, and if the variables can be used more than once (inexhaustible) then use the chart. This generally works, but I find there are exceptions to this rule on certain games.

One example is game 3 in the C2 test. It's the game where you have to design three tricolor costumes, but the colors can be used more than once.

For this one, I found the standard grouping game set up way more helpful than a chart, and I noticed that J.Y also uses a standard grouping board.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-c2-section-1-game-3/

I'm wondering if there is something about the game that makes it unique that I'm just not seeing?

Would really appreciate any insight as when to use chart vs. grouping is one of the only areas left I still feel a little unsure on.

thanks!