Does anyone anticipate taking the September test & submitting apps this fall / winter? I am considering the 3 month package.

Dear Sir,

Today I am on problem set 3-MSS- and encountered a problem during my blank review.

If you can, please check out the question: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-1-question-12/

But in general, the question goes:

cotton in cloth is straightened artfully. Natural cotton is curled so when washed under high temperature, it shrinks (because it is currently in straightened form and heat triggers it back to its natural state). And the other kind of material-poly-doesn't shrink.

And here comes the correct answer's inference: poly material is straight in its natural state.

When I was answering the question I eliminated all of them, and for the last one I wrote: "the premise does not give any support for the state of the poly material's natural state", and I mean how can you do such a inference?

Or is it that for the fewest question, there is the possibility that there may be a time when you can only work a problem by elimination?

Thoughts?

I'll be watching Legally Blonde tonight - anyone else?? Fun fact that they actually study with the infamous record store LG ha!

Can't thank 7Sage enough for getting me to this point and getting in my ideal score range! Congrats to everyone else who got their scores today!!

Before I can get into my actual concern, I have to setup a sort of lengthy background story, so you lovely person taking your wonderful time to read this post could grasp a better understanding of my concern. :D :O :/

So a week before this hectic spring semester ended, my school was offering our very first LSAT discussion panel hosted by Princeton Review. I was immediately drawn to the event because I thought, "hey. LSAT. Me likey" and because I was in serious need of guidance for the LSAT. Also a quick note, I had already set myself up for a mediocre attitude towards preparing for the LSAT because students I have spoken to prior seemed content with their scores in the 150's and told me that a condensed 3 months studying would be sufficient. I am currently a 20-year-old senior with a 3.7 GPA (salty about my GPA because I could have done better :P) who is scheduled to graduate May 2017.

Anyways back to the story, once the event finally rolls around, the PR marketing guy, who seems extremely chill and intelligent, basically tells me that LSAT is my life, and I should have been preparing for it yesterday. My stomach dropped at this point because I was appalled at how naive I was to waste precious LSAT studying time. The PR marketing guy then tells me that once I have finished taking my finals that I would need to register for the September LSAT immediately so my scores could be sent in with my law school applications to be accepted in time for fall 2017. Once I left the event, I felt both under pressure and motivated to start the LSAT journey. So of course once the semester ended, and I prolonged my LSAT journey about a week and a half due to physical and mental exhaustion, I began freaking out. The PR guy's voice was lingering in my head about how I needed to register and secure my seat ASAP and because of this roadblock I could not function properly. So I register and pay for the September 2016 LSAT to relieve myself of this lingering pressure then I heavily did some research on which LSAT study program I should invest in, and there I was, feeling great about everything. However, after reading multiple discussions in this LSAT program, I realize that I may have shorted myself studying time, and the pressure is back on.

I also now realize that I have an option to pay a fee to reschedule from taking the test in late September to December. While rescheduling to give myself more studying time, which I am unsure if I truly need it, I feel as though I may do poorly because of the exhaustion that might come from fall semester. I am taking 5 classes next semester with a 10 hour internship, which counts as one of those 5 classes, and I work 25 hours a week at night. Am I safe for taking the LSAT in September (I technically started studying last month), or should I try and reschedule for December, or am I just doomed for mediocrity?

Thank you for reading, I look forward to your responses! :-)

Hopefully, this makes some sense. Keep in mind, I am using the term math very loosely.

Basically, I am wondering if anyone is aware of a resource that gets into numbers/maths issues in LR. Some examples would be percentages versus numbers [fairly frequent], greater than or equal to vs. less than, etc. One I saw recently was that the stimulus establishes that revenues were equal to fees and other revenues. If costs exceed the sum both [A>B+C], costs must be greater than either individual component. Now, I get that it is relatively obvious math, but, when doing LR questions, these kind of make me fumble more than they should. I am trying to find any resources that sort of do an overview of frequent math/number related issues on LR.

This question is about an ethicist who says love refers to a feeling therefore a marital vow saying to love until death do us part is a promise that makes no sense because feelings are not within our control and a promise to do something not within one's control makes no sense. He concludes that no one should take love in this context to be referring to feelings.

The conclusion follows logically if which is assumed?

The answer choices are:

a: no feelings are within our control

b. People should not promise to something not within their control

c. love can be taken to refer to something other then feelings

d. promises should not be interpreted in a way that makes no sense

e. promises that cannot be kept do not make sense

The answer is D and I can't figure out why. Help.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-64-section-1-question-23/

I am getting a little discouraged. I am seeing major improvements in my other sections, but am still doing incredibly bad on RC. Just looking for some inspiration.

Dear Sir,

I am uncertain about my analysis of this passage. Can you please share yours?

PT9, S2, Q3,

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Context: Balance in particularly important when reporting the background of civil wars and conflicts.

Context: Facts must not be deliberately manipulated to show one party in a favorable light, and the views of each side should be fairly represented

Conclusion: This concept of balance, however, does not justify concealing or glossing over basic injustices in an effort to be even-handed.

Premise: If all the media were to adopt such a perverse interpretation of balanced reporting, the public would be given a picture of a world where each party in every conflict had an equal measure of justice on its side, Premise: contrary to our experience of life and, indeed, our common sense.

Dear Sir,

Here is my question: please take a look at the statement above. Of the 3rd sentence, begins with "Many important...", do you consider the sentence a minor conclusion or a major premise or a rephrase of the (major) conclusion?

And a general question, does the statement, "A major premise" is always a sub-conclusion" stand? if not, can you please explain, thanks.

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• Conclusion: Such position ignores the lessons of experience Referential phrase “such position” referring to the, “Some legislators refuse to commit public funds for new scientific research if they cannot be assured that the research will contribute to the public welfare”.

• Minor conclusion/major premise/Rephrase of major conclusion: Many important contributions to the public welfare that resulted from scientific research were never predicted as potential outcomes of that research.

• Minor premise/citing example: Suppose that a scientist in the early twentieth century had applied for public funds to study molds: who would have predicted that such research would lead to the discovery of antibiotics—one of the greatest contribution ever made to the public welfare.

I'm having trouble translating "only" statements... can anyone help me out?

For example:

Only the best artworks are beautiful. (PT 49, Section 4, Question 16)

Since "only" is a group 2 indicator (necessary), wouldn't it be the following:

Best Artworks --> Beautiful

Or, is it:

Beautiful --> Best Artworks

Thanks for your help, guys! Much appreciated.

I'm reviewing why I struggled more than I should've on game 3, and JY labeled the in/out differently than I did. He labels "finance" as out and "incentives" as in. I switched mine around and while I was still able to solve the game, I struggled more than I should've have on this simple in/out game. If you linked up the conditional chains with "finance" as in and "incentives" as out, I don't think you get the correct split boards. Has anyone tried this game with the same labels as me? Trying to figure out if I made a logic mistake or if I'm missing something in this game (whyyyyy).

Thanks in advance!!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-2-game-3/

Hi there,

I just started studying LSAT and was wondering how does the team spots conclusions?

Do you use indicator words as from the lecture?

Or

Do you just read an question and always ask why or the assumption method? (assume X is conclusion, whether the passage supports?

Hey Everyone,

Needed some help with this conditional statement.

"Deep empathy is required for full understanding of an individual's actions. Internal empathy will grant partial understanding, but only if the individual is open minded towards the process."

I have: Full Understanding ---> Deep Empathy ; (Internal Empathy --> Partial Understanding) --> Open Minded.

The question asks: Dina has acquired both deep and internal empathy of Barry, who is not open minded towards anything. Relative to Barry, Dina will gain: _________

So I know that it is unknown whether Dina will gain full understanding as she satisfies a necessary condition. But, will she also not gain partial understanding since the necessary condition is deinied (Barry is not open minded)??

How do we translate this statement and it's contrapositive: "Internal empathy will grant partial understanding, but only if the individual is open minded towards the process".

Any help would be great. Thanks for your time.

For anyone who has experience doing the games 1-16 - are these games representative of later games on the LSAT? If I am considering ponying up the money to buy the paper versions of the tests: are these good games to practice on? I have games from PT 17 through 76 - and have done about 30 PT's worth of games now... Obviously in a world where time was an unlimited resource I wouldn't ask this question and would just do them. But there's 3 months until September and I need to do and BR 19 PT's...

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-3-question-20/

Hi guys, having a little bit of trouble with this weakening question. Here's my understanding of it.

(Premise) -> In authoritarian society the metaphor society as a human body governed by it's head is pervasive. (What makes something pervasive? If it has political utility as mentioned in the first sentence)

(Conclusion) -> Therefore, the society as a body metaphor, with its connection between society's proper functioning and governance by a head, promotes greater acceptance of authoritarian repression than do other metaphors, such as likening society to a family.

So-> My guess of the logical jump being made from p -> c is that since in authoritarian regime has great utility in the society as a body metaphor over society as a family metaphor for acceptance of opression/proper function it is therfore more pervasive. S

So the answer choice (A) weakens this by saying that since in an authoritarian society both are as popular, the pervasiveness is not fully determined by utility?

Basically im confused as hell.

I started studying May 15th and will be completing the full 7Sage curriculum by next week. That being said the games are really posing a challenge for me. On my Diagnostic I missed 18/23 on the games but I was also completely clueless on what to do. Now I have gone through sequencing games and feel pretty confident but the Sequencing with a twist seem to be a lot harder for me and I am not even to the grouping games yet. I am shooting for a 168+ come September so that I can comfortably apply for this cycle and even apply ED if needed. I'll be applying with a 4.0 GPA (Finance - if it matters) and am really looking to get into a T14. My RC is going well as I am missing on average 2-4 and LR still needs some work missing about 6/section but I just want to make sure I am not rushing anything. I dedicate about 4 hours/day to this test and would like to be ready for September but I see no point in taking the test if I will not be ready to perform my best.

Did the games just start to come naturally for y'all once you kept doing them over and over and watching the videos 7Sage provides? Was there anything else you did that helped you with the games that JY didn't recommend?

Thanks for any suggestions.

So you didn't own a game and you print out 10 clean copies to practice the inferences. Should you continue to do the remaining of 10 copies if you're easily reproducing the inferences consecutively at copy 3 or 4? (And I mean consecutively in the same session. I'm not talking about never doing them again, such as the following day, a week later, a month...etc. as people have recommended). Is the point to just bank a few smooth and successful completions of the game or is it to just bat things into your "muscle memory" through repetition well after you're able to remember the inferences?

Just a background on my progress: I am taking the LSAT in September and it will be my third attempt. I am currently averaging in the mid 160s for prep tests, coming from a 158 on the Feb. test. RC has always been my best section, LR I've sloooowwwly improved, but I am still averaging -7 on LG. I want to drill and practice LG as if my life depended on it for my final bout, so if anyone has any other advice for mastering LG for someone at this point in the LSAT game it would be more than appreciated! Cheers everyone.

I'm sure there has to be some of you taking the September LSAT, so why aren't we communicating?

Hi, I need some advice about whether to take the June 2016 LSAT (not in the US). As for my current range, I could hit a desired score with a bit of luck, but I would fall short by 1-3 points (or more) under normal circumstances. The test is in 10 days.

In this case, would it still be better to take the June LSAT as a "trial run" so that I will be less anxious and be more comfortable with testing conditions in September? Or should I just take the test in September when I feel ready?

I know schools don't view cancellations as negatively as they used to before, and I don't plan to take the test more than three times so wasting one take would not be so bad, but still I guess it would be ideal to have just one score on the record...

Thankfully, things are starting to click in regards to logical reasoning... I have a long uphill battle but for the most part I am starting to get somewhat comfortable with the type of questions.... I have just made one observation on LR questions however... I have picked up that "extreme words" are often not the correct question choice correct? Meaning.. words like only, never, always...

I am just trying to verify this before I train myself to think this way and then come to find out... I am way wrong. This whole process is cleaning out some serious cobwebs so if my question is weird that is why.

I also found that I was often falling for answers with these words in them, and the choices were wrong. I am constantly getting trapped by the LSAT haha I am just hoping I figure all those traps out prior to taking the actual LSAT :) Thanks guys!

Hi everyone,

So I printed out all my logic games and put them in sheet protectors so I could do the games with a fine-tip dry erase pen. It beats having to print massive amounts of paper for each game..Instead, I just erase everything after each attempt. It's just like having a brand new game. But after a few weeks of doing this, it occurred to me that I may be completely missing something about this method, that it may be inherently flawed. Does anyone have any feedback on using this method? Obviously it's not the same as taking pencil to paper, but it has saved me the trouble of printing...thanks for the feedback!

This is a Necessary Assumption question. Could someone explain how Answer B is incorrect and Answer D is correct?

Answer B speaks to the gap (Detergent formulated for front-load dissolves more readily). Negating Answer B (Detergent formulated for front-load does NOT dissolve more readily) wrecks the conclusion because it removes the salient difference compared to ordinary detergent that the argument makes.

In contrast, Answer D provides a Sufficient Assumption to a Necessary Assumption question. Negating Answer D (It's not true that [detergent gets clothes really clean --> detergent dissolves readily in washer]) does not wreck the conclusion. Perhaps a detergent formulated for FLW simply requires less water to be just as effective as an ordinary detergent in a TLW. Or perhaps a detergent formulated for FLW has a special cleaning agent to compensate for not dissolving as readily. So on and so forth: In all cases, Sufficient does not equal Necessary.

Furthermore, working from wrong-to-right I eliminated Answer D as a trap. Answer D provides a "firmer" (conditional guarantee!) response more appropriate to a SA question. In contrast, Answer B provides a "softer" (comparative) response appropriate to most NA questions.

Thanks in advance for your help!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-70-section-1-question-21/

Any advice on how to improve score on RC questions?

Hello everyone! This is my first time posting here on 7Sage. I have been reading a lot of the forum posts, hoping to find an answer to my question but I couldn't, so here it is. I took the June 2016 Administration of the LSAT and I am in need of opinions on whether or not I should cancel my score, as today is the last day to do so.

Some background on my situation:

I first took the LSAT during the middle of my junior year in college, December 2014. I had not prepared at all and knew next to nothing about the test and so just registered and took it. Based on the fact that I knew nearly nothing at all about the LSAT and the rigor it demands, my score was not surprising, and I scored an abysmal 138. I took this as a learning experience, however, and decided to study after I completed my final year of undergrad. I graduated with a 3.86 GPA in May 2015 and I was proud to have earned that, but I knew it was time to buckle down for the LSAT. Beginning during the first week of July, I began to study using the Powerscore LG Bible. It helped me gain a nice foundation for logic games but it didn't put me over the edge, in terms of mastering them. I studied on and off like this for months... signed up for the December 2015 LSAT and I ended up withdrawing because my biggest fear was/is wasting my GPA and accepting a mediocre LSAT score.

I got a tutor during the last week of January 2016 and began to see major improvements in my logic games. It was incredible. I should say also, that I partnered my tutoring with 7Sage's free logic games video explanations and my score sky-rocketed! I had gone from getting only 8 correct in a section, to consistently getting no less than 17 correct in a section and climbing! With this success, I decided to sign up for the June 2016 Administration. As the test got closer, however, I noticed that I was peaking at scores of mid-to-high 150's. This was NOT anywhere near my goal of 170+ but I was convinced to take the test anyway, after I learned that multiple takes were not going to kill me.

I sat for the test and came out of there feeling defeated. I found that the games section was very doable but I found myself running out of time. Then my reasoning sections were touch and go, they truly were a blur to me. My reading comp (my weakest section) was tough but I found myself blanking on my second RC section (which luckily turned out to be the experimental section). Overall, I found myself completely guessing for at least the last 10 questions of every single section, and that being said, I don't think I had good accuracy when it came to the questions I actually got to attempt. This made me feel extremely uneasy, following the test.

Now, ever since this past Tuesday morning, I've been wrestling with the idea of whether or not to cancel. I already have a 138 (December 2014) on file, and then am risking having this other miserable score on file (June 2016). I am without a doubt sitting for the test again and am planning to sign up for 7Sage's curriculum, since they've helped my LG significantly.

My biggest worry is that I'll have to explain 2 miserable scores and then have that third out-of-the-park score. I am aware that most schools will only use my highest score to evaluate me as a candidate, but I can't help but think that 2 bad scores will hurt me, as opposed to having a poor score, a cancel, and then the high score.

What should I do?

Thanks for reading, if you've read this far and I apologize for the long post.

When a problem says: Grace helps move the sofa if but only if Heather helps move the recliner, do I diagram it as: Gs(------)Hr or Hr(----)Gs, or does it matter either way? Also are "if BUT only if" and "if AND only if" diagrammed differently or the same?