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Hello everyone,

While the printable preptests and 7Sage's digital tester use line numbers when referencing sentences in RC questions, I noticed the digital preptests on LSAC's website don't use line numbers, and instead say stuff like "in the middle of the third paragraph". Can anyone confirm what those questions are like when taking the actual test? Also, are we able to check off the box to condense the RC passage on test day as well?

Hi everyone- can anyone point me to the hardest LR questions that they have ever seen implicating numbers, percentages, market share etc.?

I usually got -4 to -6 on RC, and -4 on the rest of other sections on PTs. I have significant improvement on the other two sections following blind review method, but Reading Comprehension is the section that I found no improvement after 2 months of full-time studying.

I saw people mentioned to figure out the relationships between various subjects and opinions and to anticipate the answer after reading question stems, but I found it very difficult to do so. I usually can get a fair understanding on the structure and any shifts from paragraph to paragraph, but I found it insufficient to answer inference questions.

There are usually at least 3-4 different subjects and opinions in a passage. The relationships among them are extremely difficult to keep track of. For difficult passages, the subject matters and different people's opinions themselves are difficult to understand, not to mention handling their relationships with each other. For example, in a passage (PT30, S3, P2) there is a debate going on about Greek Dramas tragedies written by an author X, and 3 scholars give different and distinct opinions on what lead to the consequences. When I read, I understood that there was a debate going on, and three scholars give different opinions about the same subject, which is Greek drama tragedies. But one question asks what is the difference between the opinions of scholar No2 and scholar No3, I can't summarize the difference, even after going back to read it one more time.

Convoluted answer choices add another layer of difficulties to the questions, which sometimes give me trouble, since I am not a native English speaker. But this problem is a minor one compared to the former. These all give rise to trouble when doing inference questions.

Does anyone have experience on improving skills on handling relationships and make inference upfront? Or any general advice on how to deal with these problems? And if any of you know a tutor can help with these issues, tell me please. I'd really appreciate your help, and thank you in advance.

Good luck studying, everyone!

Did I miss a PDF for the valid vs. invalid forms or are they just in the videos?

Hi 7Sagers

I'm planning on taking the October Flex but am struggling to improve my LG score. Currently I'm averaging around between 3 to 5 incorrect, and am hoping to reduce that to 0-2 by October, but not sure if that's being unrealistic :( I'm feeling a bit discouraged after taking PT 57 (the section with the infamous dinosaur game). I feel like my biggest struggles are finishing the section on time, not being able to draw my game board and draw global inferences as efficiently/quickly, and not knowing when to decisively split my game board.

I've already taken full practice tests: PT 1-20, and a couple from the 20/30/40/50's range and am planning on taking several more from those ranges and from the 60/70/80's range before I take the October test. I know it may not be ideal to take a few from each range instead of solving them chronologically, but I've heard it's good to practice with recent tests as well and I simply don't have the time to solve everything before the October test. I'm currently drilling PT 21-35 (games only), foolproofing those, and foolproofing all the LG sections from the full PTs I'm taking, but it's frustrating to see close to no improvement.

Do you guys have any advice on how to improve LG score in a month, and if this is even the most efficient method? Not sure if I should focus on solving more games before test day (even if that means I have less time to foolproof and review previously solved games), or focus on perfecting the ones I've solved before (even if that means I have less time to solve games either in drills or in full PTs).

Also, is it worthwhile to foolproof games based on game type (so today I foolproof Pure Sequencing games only, tomorrow Grouping In+Out only, etc.)

Open to hearing any of your guys' thoughts - Thank you so much!

I enjoyed this Q and thought I'd do a write-up.

The hard things on this Q for me were seeing the conclusion and understanding AC D.

The statement about development not negatively affecting the wildlife in the park is the conclusion, because it draws support from the following statements about #s on wildlife increasing and the Park's resources can support the current numbers. At first I thought this would just be a premise but after I read the paragraph I had to go back and see what the conclusion actually was.

The second sentence is a bit confusing, let's unpack it. We're talking about 2 surveys - the most recent surgery compared to one taken just before the development started. We should be asking "how far apart were these surveys taken?" The stim tells us a decade, so ten years. That's enough time to see a sizeable difference.

Next we see that theamount of wildlife has increased in those 10 years. Here is where your flaw detector should be going off!! The amount of wildlife has increased, but do we know that this means the Park's wildlife has not been negatively affected? Heck no. What if the development led to the death of all bears, and now without predators the bunny population is 20million? Or what if development led to every animal getting really sick, so now they don't kill each other, they just sit there in a catatonic state? Definitely a negative impact.

We're given 1 more premise that is not really important for getting the right answer. The parks current resources can support the current population. Ok? Will it support 1 more animal? Idk.

I've identified a flaw and now ready for ACs:

A. (Going bit by bit): ok, the recent survey and 10 years ago survey. This was the bunny flaw we identified. What if 9/10 species died due to the development? We're saying that's NOT the case. Still 10 species alive now, no fewer. Now we see the latest survey shows increased #s in each species. Bears, bunnies, etc all have increased populations. Good! This addresses a big flaw, and I like it. Def keep this answer. Turns out this is the correct AC.

B. If we took a snapshot of wildlife total numbers we need to know those numbers aren't skewed. B is showing it IS skewed - we took a snapshot at the peak time.

If this is how you read B you made the same mistake I did. "Diversity" is not the same as gross numbers. If this AC read "in addition to total number increase, diversity increased as well." This would add support to the argument that wildlife has not been negatively affected by the development.

The issue with B is it does indicate the snapshot is skewed - it was taken during summer when the numbers look best. Also make sure to note diversity isn't the same as gross numbers.

C. If animals are migrating in, then what can we conclude about the numbers of animals within the park? No idea!! The argument is using the total number of animals in the park increasing as a premise. Now that number is skewed by outside interference. What if 100% of animals within the park died, and 200% that number migrated in? Certainly we can't say the development had no negative impact.

D. This is a great subtle AC which makes it a little hard to see why is wrong. What does it mean that we can locate hard to find animals now that we couldn't in the past? It means in the past we could find 8/10 animals and now we're finding all 10/10. This weakens the support that the premise gives to the conclusion. What if population numbers didn't increase and you're just finding the last 2/10 animals?

E. Plant life - what about alien life? Did they find SpongeBob and Patrick? This is a throwaway AC because I don't care about plants - plants don't have a place in the argument we're given.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-3-question-25/

#help I have been trying to come up with the best way to approach these RC questions, especially the ones I get wrong. I have reverted back to Phase 1 in the memory method after doing not so well on a few of the RC passages. For the questions you get wrong, how do you go about tackling them? Should I be analyzing the passage on my own then going and watching JY’s analysis to realize what I have missed before I start the question? Should I just power through and then watch his analysis and questions after I do it on my own? I feel like its much harder to correct my way of thinking for RC questions than for the other two sections and not really sure what my “plan of action” should be. Thanks!

Hey everyone, need some help here. The sufficient assumption questions are giving me a pretty hard time. I was curious where I should go back to and review that might help me with these ? I was going through the CC quite fine, Everything leading up to SA made percent sense, including the SA lesson itself. Even the general approach to these questions I found understandable.

But as soon as the actual practice questions started I have never felt more out of the loop. I find converting the questions into Lawgic quite difficult.

Any advice, on what to review or areas that might be a weak link that are making this question type difficult for me ?

Thanks !

some one please explain this question to me.

Hello everyone,

I have spent the past 10 days focusing mostly on RC. I am having a great deal of trouble with this section. JY's low-res summary has not helped me one bit. I am having great troubles understanding the passage before moving into the questions. I have started looking into possible tutors to help develop strategies that will help me. I had a call with a company called "Varsity Tutors" today, they gave me a quote of $1200 for 12 hours of 1 on 1 instruction time. The price seems absolutely ludicrous given the amount of supervision.

I'm feeling defeated at this point, and any help would be greatly appreciated

Anyone have some tips on LR ? Would love to have a zoom call with someone who's strong on LR and maybe teach me a different approach? I read the powerbooks .. use Khan.. have Kaplan tutoring coming up.... Sometimes I learn better from peers.

my worst section is RC.. I read the power scores and they say read the entire passage and "summarize" as youre reading.. others say skim thru and highlight may terms/dates/names/etc. then look at questions and attack from the questions.. Who is very strong in RC and can give me a solid recommendation? I learn better from peers. Would love a zoom call with someone because Im at a 139 BECAUSE of LR and RC

Does anyone think the January Lsat will be flex or in person ?

#help Please

When the ‘OR’ is in the necessary and the arrow does not split, how is that diagramed? without the ‘OR’ if you have to chain them up?

When the ‘AND’ is in the sufficient and the arrow does not split, how is that diagrammed? without the ‘AND’ if you have to chain it up?

Hi everyone! I hope you are doing well and staying safe.

My reading comprehension skills have significantly worsened after following the strategies outlined by both 7Sage and Powerscore. I find myself to be struggling the most with Main Point/Most Strongly Supported Questions on Reading Comprehension. If you have any suggestions for resources or strategy recommendations, please let me know. I am really struggling, so any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Now that you can use mechanical pencils on the LSAT Flex, I thought I would give some advice here as someone that is a self proclaimed mechanical pencil nerd. I have used many in practicing for the LSAT and have to give my #1 recommendation to the Delguard ER . It is 0.5 MM and has a mechanism that prevents the lead from breaking (up to three clicks). It has saved me all kinds of time and frustration. The Delguard ER is great for smaller hands, and the regular non ER model is still great, but thinner. All around it's a great pencil. The eraser is OKAY, so I would recommend a mono black foam stick eraser, but that's your personal preference.

Hi,

So while I did understand why the wrong answer choices were wrong here, I had trouble understanding why E was right. Can anyone explain their reasoning here?

The reason I had trouble understanding why E was right was because I didn't really know what was the difference between "subjective association" and "possession of concept". I thought that a "subjective association" had to be an association that people made based on their "subjective" (aka personal) opinion, but I didn't see any personal opinion in passage A-- I saw people basing their opinion from the connotations in the languages themselves, not from their unique thoughts/experiences.

In addition, "whereas" in answer choice E indicates contrast between "subjective association" and "possession of concept" yet, from my perspective, it seems like people holding a masculine view of a violin and people holding a rough view of numerical values both seem like "possessions of concepts"-- they are both opinions that people hold.

So how is E right?

Any #help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-89-section-3-passage-4-questions/

Hey everyone, I just completed the advanced logic lesson. Most of it made sense, until embedded conditionals.... Reviewing the intro to logic section. 7Sage said they are very rare but very hard.

I am just curious, how hung up should I get on the embedded conditionals stuff ? I suppose as it is the hardest logic lesson I shouldn't be so down about not having it stick after only a day or two of reading the advanced section. But that being said. I have watched the advanced logic section a couple times now, at this point I feel like I am just wasting time ! I am not trying to sound pompous but thus far nothing has ever really made me feel this stupid before and it has me questioning my whole study study plan.

Should I just forge ahead and hopefully this stuff will click with more time and practice/following more along the core curriculum ? In all honesty I am only shooting for a mid 150 range score, Is embedded conditionals worth stressing over ?

Other then that, If anyone has any advice or extra material on this stuff I am all ears. Thanks !

With every flex preptest I take. there is a leftover LR section. Is there a way to do these as a separate timed sections?

Hey everyone!

I'm looking to get some more LR practice under my belt and hone in on my skills by tutoring. I have yet to master this section, but I have improved a good amount. When first starting out I started out averaging -13/-14 per LR section and have gotten that down to -4/-5! I'm looking to primarily tutor those early in their studying stage and have difficulty with concepts!

I finally broke 170 and I never have to take the LSAT again. My diagnostic score was a 161 and I just got a 171. I got those 10 points by studying with 7Sage. Thanks J.Y.

When it comes to fool proofing games, should you watch the explanation video after the first time you do it? And also should every time you do it be timed or should there be some type of BR where you just see if you can get every question right

I struggle with reading answering all the questions within the 35 minute time frame. Anyone have any advice on this?

Hi 7sagers,

I had a quick question regarding RC. Something I've noticed when I'm doing RC is that on trickier problems, I almost always am able to eliminate the answers down to two answer choices, and at this point, I know one is the right answer and the other one is a trap answer.

Here is an example of a situation I'm talking about -

on PT51 Passage 4 Q27, I KNEW the answer was between b) and d), and it was just a matter of choosing the answer choice that's supported by the text. (right answer is d), I chose b)).

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-2-passage-4-questions/

I realized this happens on many questions on RC where I am able to eliminate the answers down to two choices but fall for the trap answer about 80% of the time.

I wanted to ask the 7sage community if you have any tips when you are faced with this situation of having to choose between one right answer and one trap answer! Do you go back to the text to find support? How do you "logic" it out?