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What are peoples strategies for marking up a passage?

Do you use the different highlight colors + the underline tool for different, specific types of information?

I've just started studying RC and am trying to come up with as system for marking up passages that makes it easier to go back and find info when I'm on the questions. I am curious as to what worked for others.

As of now, all I have is that I am going to underline time indicators. (Such as: before, after, until recently, now, back then, previously, etc.)

I know some people feel like it could be a time suck, but I have such a hard time being engaged with the passages I think using the tools will make me actively think about what information falls into what category and how it all fits together. I'd love others' input on this as well.

So I'm taking the LSAT in February, and I am hopeful to at least score in the 150s there, however in order to get into the Law School I am thinking of getting into, I would have to score anything above 165ish. Is that jump possible? If so what tips or tricks do you all recommend?

"If you study, you will beat the LSAT." This is an example given here on 7sage, and it seems to work. Studying is a sufficient condition to beat the LSAT (apparently). S -> B

On another website, an example was given along the lines of: "If I put gas in my car, my car will run." And, here, putting gas in the car was said to be the necessary condition. The car needs gas to run. Gas is necessary for the car to run. CR -> G

But in that example, IF introduces the necessary condition, not the sufficient condition. What am I not understanding exactly? Does IF introduce sufficient conditions or necessary conditions? Huge thanks in advance!

I've been working through the curriculum for the last few weeks and I swear that the Flaw-Descriptive Questions lesson was before Principle Questions but now it's telling me that Principle is before Flaw. Is this a new change or am I going through some weird Mandela effect?

I'm very confused as to why the answer is B and not C. Looking back at it now, I'm trying to make justifications for why the answer should be B (EX: B says "the government would withhold" which is not as definitive as in C which says "the government would deny requests"). Is it not C because C is too broad and is not focusing on UFOs specifically? I figured its broad language was why it was the correct answer but maybe that was not the right way to go about it.

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Last comment friday, feb 03 2023

LG Help Needed

I have been studying LG consistently for the past five months. I finished the entire LG core curriculum, foolproofing every single game along the way. I have also foolproofed about 6 LG sections. I always watch explanation videos after doing games and repeat the game until perfect. I also feel comfortable with the LG foundations - on blind review I consistently get -0 to -1. But on fresh timed LG sections, I can barely make it through two games. I am truly not sure what I'm doing wrong and find this to be extremely demoralizing. I would appreciate any advice!

have you ever heard an lsat prepbook describe a negative sufficient condition as a "denial of the antecedent" or an illegal negation described as "affirmation of the consequent"? Ever heard a book mention the latin modus tollens? ponens?

i have not. ever.

the lsat prep books seem to give these concepts different names and designations. However, as i got more interested in conditional logic and formal logic concepts (as a result of lsat studying), i stumbled upon an old book called "A System of Logic" by John Stuart Mill (1843). Mill's book seems to take a look at LSAT logic concepts (provided by the lsat prepbooks ) in a much more formal way, giving the concepts more complicated names, introducing different symbols for propositional statements etc.

my question is this : do the lsat prep books SIMPLIFY mill's book? or is mill's book a more THOROUGH version of the lsat prepbooks? furthermore, could mill's book be used as a complete substitute to some of the lsat prepbooks, helping students save money on prepbooks and ultimately providing a better logical foundation than the prepbooks could provide anyway?

let me know what you think, thanks.

Hi everyone! I need some advice/hacks on identifying necessary assumptions for weakening and strengthening questions. I have been stuck on these two sections for a few weeks now. I got so frustrated that I had to go to a different section because they have been holding up my progress. I am really struggling to come up with the assumptions myself. It's like when I ask myself what is the assumption, my brain freezes. Is there something that you've done to help make it click for you? Or could someone explain it to me like I'm 5? haha

#help

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    Hi 7Sagers,

    I was hoping to get some help with J.Y's reasoning in one of the explanations videos. According to J.Y., the statement "as many people consume caffeine as consume any one of the other addictive psychoactive substances" means that the number of people who consume caffeine is equal to or greater than the number of people who consume other addictive psychoactive substances. I just don't see how that makes sense. For me, it would make sense to say that:

    "the number of people who consume caffeine **is equal to ** the number of people who consume other addictive psychoactive substances.

    Any thoughts? Or other ways to conceptualize this statement?

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    Last comment wednesday, feb 01 2023

    Difficult Flaw/Weaken Questions

    Hi everyone!

    I have been using 7Sage for the past 2 months I feel as though I have improved with all of the syllabus curriculum so far. However, I find myself REALLY struggling with higher difficulty weaken/flaw questions. I really need help or tips as I feel stuck even with the materials currently provided, and I think I need a push to get me past my plateau with these question types!

    Thanks and please #help :)

    Hi! I signed up to take the LSAT in June. But, that leaves me to study for 4 months. I feel like it won't be enough time. I have been feeling very stressed. I wanted to matriculate in law school by Fall 2024, but I feel that I won't have time. I also have been working on my PS and have been trying to finish it. I have a fee waiver, and don't know if I should withdraw the exam until I feel prepared. I want to score over a 170 on the LSAT. Also, I will be looking for full-time jobs since I am a recent college grad. I don't know if the Fall 2025 year would be better to matriculate in. I I'm in the intro to logic section of the study schedule and it is confusing. I want to know if I can skip to reading comprehension then come back to logic.

    I'm feeling really hopeless when it comes to logic games. I'm still only able to really get -3 on new sections within the time constraints. I feel like I've been working on logic games for such a long time and I'm just curious how long it took others to prefect their score? Really need a high LSAT score to balance out my low GPA so it's not an option to be getting anything worse than -1/-0 on this section.

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    Last comment monday, jan 30 2023

    Newer LSAT tests

    Hi,

    I'm testing in february and have been working on the core curriculum since last May. I work full time and don't have much time to take a test per day. I'm pretty much limited to two full tests per weekend if I'm lucky.

    I have taken many pt's from 1-35, a few from 35-69, and just 70 from the newer administrations. Should I focus more on the ones from 70-present with the time I have left? I hear these are more challenging but more reflective of the current tests. TIA!

    I'm currently working my way through the core curriculum in the hopes of taking the June 2023 LSAT. I've only been doing 1-2 of the problem sets after each section so that I can save them for later in case I need more help in a certain area (once I begin taking PTs). I've noticed that a lot of these problem sets, however, are in the "easy" range based on the stats that accompany them. Should I be taking the drills (which appear to have varying difficulty) now, or save these for when I start taking the PTs? Thanks for any insight! :)

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    Last comment sunday, jan 29 2023

    RC question tag/structure

    I’m wondering how can I decide a question tag, such as “INF” “RecS” “AppP”, on my own? Can I tell directly based on the question or do I have to look at answer choices?

    Does anyone know any study videos or articles for such relevant topics on differentiating different tags/structures?

    Thank you!

    Someone tell me if I'm correct in this logic. This is for question #2. Here is the link.

    https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-on-finding-sufficient-assumptions-with-intersection-statements-2-answers/?ss_completed_lesson=11895

    G –m→ N

    G –m→ /A

    G-m->N-m->/A = I’m not able to draw it out like how JY does so this is what I put however, on paper I draw it out like JY does.

    N—>/A = Answer

    So in regards to N-m->/A not being the answer, let me explain.

    /A

    /A

    GN

    GN

    GN/A

    GN/A

    G/A

    G/A

    N/A

    N/A

    Now the reason N-m->/A is incorrect is because this answer would effect the conclusion. Say you had more A’s and more N’s then it wouldn’t be the case that G-m->/A is the answer because look, I have more A’s and N’s that are not G’s so how could G –m→ /A? This would make the conclusion invalid. It has to be certain that most G’s are /A and by getting ride of N-m->/A statement were getting ride of the extra two N’s that carry A with it as well as the other extra two /A’s. If N-m->/A then how does G-m->/A work? Out of the 6 N’s, two are A which pulls from the conclusion by saying, “No, G-m->/A invalid because we have two extra A’s therefore out of all the A’s which is 8 (100%) only 4 G’s are A’s and it needs to be 5 to count for most. The N-m->/A is satisfied but doesn’t allow the conclusion to be valid so the sufficient assumption that N—>/A makes it 100% true that yes G –m→ /A.

    GN

    GN

    GN/A

    GN/A

    G/A

    G/A

    Did the LSAT ramp up the difficulty of the games as LSAT studying became more systematized? I went from getting -0 90%+ of the time while doing pre-60 sets and taking PTs in the 40s to getting extremely uncomfortable in the 70+ LGs.

    Taking on January and I'm extremely nervous of getting caught off guard with a LG section that is much more difficult than what I am practicing.

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