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Hello!

I'm looking for advice on how to combine several platforms. I currently have the Live (middle) plan with 7Sage, and I am also using the PowerScore Bibles.

I was also hoping to incorporate both the prep tests on 7Sage and on LawHub but I am not sure how to work with these all in tandem.

Any advice on how to maximize these altogether, and when to start taking prep tests? I just began my studying and will be taking the LSAT in June 2025.

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Hi guys,

I've recently taken the Nov 2024 LSAT and am pretty discouraged by the results, to say the least. I had been preparing for the last two months or so (about 5 hours per day appx) and had been doing a lot of PTs (too many I'm sure) in a range of 172-176 with a couple outliers outside the range on both sides, and I ended up scoring a 167 on the actual exam. There were a few adverse conditions which I am confident wouldn't occur again on a retaking, but I don't think any of it could have had that big of an impact so there must be something else. I took a 'diagnostic' two and a half months ago or so and got a 169. Please note though that I did take the exam back in 2020 (hence the username), and I scored a 168 on that one, so the 169 'diagnostic' wasn't a real diagnostic as I was obviously still familiar with the exam from four years ago.

I usually get from -1 to -3 on both the LR and the RC, but generally if I miss 3 on an LR section for instance I'll only miss 1 on the other and only miss 1 on the RC. Doing the math for the 167, I guess I must've missed 13 total at a minimum, which is pretty outside of my range, and almost unbelievable to be honest. It's also frustrating that they no longer allow you to view the exam to find out where you missed your points and review the questions for potential inaccuracy.

Has anyone been in a similar situation, where you've dropped 6 or 7 points from your average PT score on the actual exam? It's hard to take to be honest, and I can't help but feel like my PT scores are meaningless in the face of the score I just got. Also, I know it's somewhat common, but I don't understand how my score could have been below my diagnostic after multiple months of prep. It's all very discouraging, and I'm not really sure what to make of it or what to do differently. I know I need to take fewer practice tests (which is good because I burned like 15 of them in total), but what should we be doing to practice, actually? Just timed drills? At this rate, I worry that I'll run out of legit LSAT questions before I can get my target score (174) on an actual exam.

I don't know if I'm looking for advice or validation, but I think I would be happy with either or both. This was a long one so thank you if you've read this far. I'm kind of considering buying a few hours with a tutor (unsure of where) so let me know if you have an opinion on that with the poll below. Thank you

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hi all. I wrote an addendum to explain failing a P/F class in freshman year. Not an excuse, but the program I was in was notoriously known for disorganization and lack of support. This along with some other factors including a grandparents death and hard transition to college, contributed to the grade. I said how I raised my grades after and my GPA went up. Is it okay to explain this even though it may look like I'm making an excuse for my performance? I don't want to raise attention to it too much and give the admin team any red flags.

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So I’ve been using 7sage for a few months now, since August. While using it, I was scoring 153-158 in between those scores, and my blind review has been on the higher end in the 156-158 range. I decided to try the LR Loophole just to give myself a new perspective and i was only studying that this month and I thought it would’ve helped, but I just took a practice test and score a 151. I feel extremely discouraged, and that I wasted my time but I also think it could be that it was a lot of material that I covered this entire month and I neglected reading comprehension. I was planning on taking the January test with a goal of 160+ but now I’m not so sure. Does anyone know how to deal with this and what to do to improve? Also, should I still take the January exam with my goal score or push it to February but I think it’ll be too late for applications? I think I’m just going to switch back to 7sage because I was doing better.

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Hi everyone,

I wanted to share my LSAT journey in hopes of encouraging others, especially those balancing life’s many challenges.

I took my first diagnostic in Spring 2023 and scored a 144 (Logic Games absolutely crushed me). My circumstances were unusual—I had been released from prison in 2022 after nearly a decade. While studying, I was juggling multiple jobs, full-time school, volunteer work, and rebuilding my life.

I started with books and Khan Academy before purchasing 7Sage when I could afford it. Without a clear plan, I meandered through the syllabus and struggled to balance studying with life. In June 2023, I scored a 154—lower than my practice test average.

Over the summer and into Fall 2023, I studied sporadically without structure, focusing too much on timed practice tests rather than mastering the material. In October, I scored a 158, applied to schools, and was waitlisted at two great ones. Inspired by these experiences, I decided to retake the test after graduating college in May 2024.

In July 2024, I started fresh with a more systematic approach:

  • Logged 400 hours of study from July to November.

  • Completed the 7Sage curriculum with detailed notes.

  • Focused on understanding concepts, not just timing.

  • Limited myself to one PT per week until two weeks before test day, then increased to two PTs per week. I also incorporated untimed sections for review. This was key because in my first study cycle, I exhausted most recent prep tests, forcing me to focus on older material and partial sections.

  • Made flashcards to memorize question types and strategies—something I skipped during my first cycle.

  • Mentally mimicked J.Y.'s testing methods and watched videos of him providing commentary while taking tests.

    • By the end of this cycle, I averaged 164-168 on PTs and scored a 169 on test day.

    I’m in my early 30s, married, working, attending religious school, and volunteering. Reaching this score came down to discipline, completing the syllabus, and mastering strategies.

    If you’re feeling overwhelmed, know that improvement is possible with the right plan and mindset.

    Feel free to ask any questions—I’m happy to help!

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    morrisjfuller820

    164-171

    So thrilled with the results I was able to get. Previous administrations I just screwed around, didn't really have any structure, and while I got good results, I knew I could do better.

    The syllabus really gave me comfort in the logic underlying the test and the analytics 7Sage offers are so much deeper than everything else I've tried. By the end I was actually loving drilling sections every morning, I am going to miss it. Not going to miss waiting for results though.

    Thank you 7Sage!

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    Hey all,

    I am currently signed up for the January LSAT. Recently, I've been stuck at the mid 150's score range for PTs, and I was wondering if you all had any tips that could get you out of a rut? I am aiming for 160+. Currently, I am just using the drill builder and attacking it from there..

    Thanks!

    Happy Thanksgiving

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    153 on Nov which is just so irritating because my nerves from RC not going well largely influenced my later sections which were real and my timing just sucked. Also had personal matters occur the day before and despite trying to shake it off, I think my mind was elsewhere. Nov score is 3 points lower than Oct (156) which also was a bad test day because I was impacted by hurricane and I took the retest after no studying for 2 weeks bc no power and being stuck. Aug was 155 and I was happy thinking it was a good starting point and was how I had been PTing. Now with a score decrease I am just so angry because I know I can do better and underperforming is just my issue. I have mental blocks when I start to feel stuck and it leads me to rereading and timing just being so bad. I think I need to change my approach but don't know how? I have the loophole book and will probably look over the curriculum for conditional and grammar maybe? I am also just curious if it is truly possible to have a significant change if I am also getting a job since my gap months of studying are now just not proving efficient and I need to occupy my resume for admissions. All this to ask if it is worth retaking if I do not improve that much but I just have a gut feeling to retake since I feel my potential is better than all the scores I have, and it's just mentality on test day causing me issues. I'm also all over the place with PT's being high 150s and then sometimes 160s so also curious if there is a just not a "click" in studying yet (largely depends on LR score and question variety most of the time, RC is pretty consistent). if you read all this, thank u for letting me rant and also would appreciate advice. I just want a 160 at this point.

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    I just received my November LSAT score and only improved 1 point from my last test in August 2023. I don’t really understand how because I have studied more than ever in my life and was doing over 6 points better on my practice tests. This is now my third time taking it with my scores barely improving. I took it June 2023 and got a 157, August 2023 158 and now November 2024 159. Since I’ve taken it 3 times with little improvement should I cancel my score or leave it? I fear it may look bad on my applications. I truly thought I would improve more if I retook it and now I’m at a loss.

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    I got a 169 and have already gotten several A's from schools... so far no WL or rejections so fingers crossed! I went from 157 to 169 over a LONG period of time (I'm just a slow learner and was working a little more than full time while studying). Not many scholarship offers in yet ( several schools are saying that comes later? not sure how this all works. I'm first gen)

    Thank you to 7S for their incredible answer bank and tutorials on games.

    Thanks to all the commenters who left their approaches underneath the videos. With your help I'm gonna be able to graduate law school with much less debt -- who knows, maybe even none-- than I ever imagined.

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    Looking to break out of my 167-169 plateau and hammer in the details of this stupid hard test! Would love to collaborate on speed strategies, drill conditional and causal reasoning and talk through the harder questions together. Message me if interested and we can try to get a weekly Zoom going

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    Hey so I'm planning on taking my first preptest since my diagnostic, and I was wondering if I would be able to import the diagnostic results I took on LawHub into 7sage for the analytics?

    I tried looking at reddit and google and couldn't find anything

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    Are any of you planning to apply this cycle with your Jan LSAT score? I’m up in the air because while I really don’t want to wait around another year, I’m not sure I will get the best scholarships I’m wanting/the highest chance of admission, yet my dream school’s ‘ideal’ deadline is March 31st, with a final deadline in June.

    Any opinions appreciated. I’ve been listening to a lot of ThinkingLSAT and I feel like I am talking myself out of applying this cycle, even though I’ll be well within the timeframe that the school gives.

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