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Just throwing this out there, has anyone/a sibling/a friend played a club sport while attending law school? The schools I'm eyeing these days have club hockey teams that practice 2h/wk and play 2 games/weekend (~8-10h/wk commitment). Wondering if anyone knows if this is feasible, or if I need a reality check. I'm definitely eligible by NCAA rules and regs, but I'm going to law school to learn and network, not to screw around and graduate with no employment. Thus, if it would make more sense to devote myself to a moot court or an academic club, then I will do so...but it would be really nice if I could do it all.

Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks all.

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I am doing the Miscellaneous Questions Problem Set 5, and 18.4.21 has me really confused. I googled the meaning and got this: http://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/11060/how-to-use-what-is-more

To me it boils down to "furthermore." If that is the case, then how is B not the correct answer? Wouldn't starting your response argument with "furthermore..." mean that you are using the same premises as the previous argument?

Independently, I don't see how E accurately describes the relationship between the arguments. What is the conflicting supposition? I think this answer choice is trying to get you to assume that since there is no general agreement in evaluating the merits of sound (Jane's argument), Mark's claim about "tonal quality" conflicts with that idea. But, isn't tone a more refined idea than sound?

I Googled the definition of sound and got: "vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear." The definition of tone according to Google is: "A musical tone is a steady periodic sound. A musical tone is characterized by its duration, pitch, intensity (or loudness), and timbre (or quality). The notes used in music can be more complex than musical tones, as they may include aperiodic aspects, such as attack transients, vibrato, and envelope modulation."

Sound to me could be anything: random noises to steady/periodic/intentional sound choice. Musical tone, which is a type of sound, has to more with the latter than the former. Doesn't this mean that Jane's premises about sound and Mark's premise about tone both be true? Aren't sound and tone related, but not completely synonymous? I don't see how they necessarily conflict, which is what answer choice E states.

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In the LSAT Ultimate course package, I noticed that full explanations for LSAT exams before PT 36 are provided when watching individual explanations for problem sets. Is there a direct way I can access these explanations without having to first find an explanation for a problem set?

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Hello all!

I am taking the LSAT in February and I am on a very tight budget but was wondering if the LSAT Starter is sufficient? Will it only be helpful for easy question sets or will I be able to utilize the skills in the LSAT Starter to sufficiently solve difficult problem sets as well? My concern is not being able to master difficult problems on the exam.

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Hey Guys,

I was wondering if anyone knows what I can do regarding the December 5th LSAT. I was scheduled to write; however, I got into a terrible car accident 3 days ago. Does anyone know if LSAC is willing to reimburse me for the cost or at least move it to a later date without penalty?

Any feedback is helpful. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

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Hello all!

I recently finished taking PT 58 and 59, and got the same exact score!(feeling slightly bummed) I would love to have a skype/google hangout group where we can discuss PT 58 and PT 59 in detail! If anyone is interested? Let me know :)

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I learn best when teaching (like most people,) and have also spent enough time with the LSAT that I feel comfortable teaching others. I'm strongest in LR and LG, but open to working together on RC as well.

I have studied Manhattan LSAT (for LR,) LSAT Trainer, Powerscore (for LG,) Testmasters, and obviously 7sage so I am open to using a variety of methods for the different sections.

Available via skype (@lsathopeful) - if I'm online, I'm usually pretty much available.

Good luck with your studying!

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So is order to avoid burnout and a brain drain, I'm curious to see what absorption time you guys give yourself after blind reviewing before starting a new pt session. Today for instance, I've BR and drilled all day since 9 AM, and I'm debating about a PT tonight at 9PM. I'm sure with less then 30 days left til DEC lot of cramming is being done around this time and subjectivity aside, some guidance from the vets would be much appreciated.

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I was under the impression. When I upgraded to the Ultimate Plus package that I would be getting the question bank with video explanations.... And at least the correct answer for each question. Was anybody else under that impression? Is there a reason 7Sage hasn't posted the answers for all of those questions as well as video explanations?

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...for Group BR

MONDAY, November 9th at 11AM ET: PT52

Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/tLgIUSlQDEPg

Note: That 11 AM start time is EASTERN STANDARD TIME. So if you’re on the west coast, that’s an 8:00 AM.

Be sure to announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I took the Oct. 2015 LSAT and would love to see the review for it before I take the December LSAT. Does anyone know if 7Sage will be making that available anytime soon?

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    I erroneously chose the wrong answer because of the word "reject". I knew the argument was committing an absence of evidence argument/flaw. However, I felt "reject the possibility that" was too strong because I felt just because the author didn't mention it doesn't mean he rejected it. He may have simply not thought about it. It's not like someone brought up the idea and he rejected it.

    LSAT Prep Test 26 (September 1998) - S3 - Question 10

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    Hey all,

    I just got accepted to Georgetown today. I feel so relieved that I am T14 secure. I feel forever indebted to 7sage because there is no way that my score would have improved so much without JY and Jonathan's curriculum, and the BR groups on Skype. 7sage has an amazing community, which has motivated me to challenge myself to work harder and harder. Trust me, if I can do it, all of you can do it. I scored a disappointing 147 on my diagnostic and scored a 167 on the October exam after 10 months of hard work. I am still going to retake in December because I was scoring in the 170s and I would like to receive $$$ from the T14. I hope that there are many more acceptances to come. For the people on 7sage who aren't scoring really high, don't give up hope. You, too, can break through your "glass ceiling" and reach your LSAT goals. I plateaued in the 160-163 range for nearly two months. It can be overcome. All it takes is motivation and a will to succeed. I hope other 7sagers have great results as well this application cycle as a result of all of their hard work.

    #7sage

    #BRcrew

    #doyouevenLSAT?

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    I'm now considering postponing my test until February but still applying for the Fall 2016 cycle with the score I have until I the other score. My issue with postponing the exam is I don't have a plan of what I need to start doing differently in order to see results... I've been at the same score 151 roughly even after finish the 7sage course. What can I do to ensure that it will go up? I've been at a 151 since April... And seen no sign of improvement. My weakest section is LR I'm averaging -11 -12 per section. Someone please help! I've messaged 7sage tutors and have yet to get a response. Should I just take the exam and be done with it? I feel hopeless at this point.

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    Petri dishes are disgusting and probably shouldn’t be stored anywhere near another disgusting petri dish. Sorry, not sorry.

    Ewwww!

    LSATurday, Nov 7th at 8PM ET: PT69

    Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/tA67DTS6xgqW

    Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

    Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Summary: This is far and away the ideal test center. If you're anywhere near DFW or North/East Texas, take the test here! I told an LSAC employee about my experience and she said it was one of the best she had ever heard of. I would even consider making the trek from OKC or Austin.

    Setting Pros: We were in small rooms; I had 9 other people in my room. Each person had an entire large table. My room was in the basement near a bathroom.

    Parking free and easy. Right off the freeway.

    Setting Cons: It might get a little cold. Not a lot of great hotels nearby but you could branch out a bit (if traveling to the test center).

    Proctor Pros: We had 2 lovely proctors who kept time very well. They were extremely quiet and respectful.

    Proctor Cons: None.

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    Has anyone been able to get their hands on the October test yet? It's showing up on Amazon but it says out of stock. So what's more likely ,everyone and their mother bought it or is it showing up to order even though it's not available yet?

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    Dear JY,

    I love your website. The explanations for the logical games are carefully thought out and well presented. I wished I knew about your website before I spent $3000 on testprep material from Kaplan and Powerscore. Sage7 appears to have a far superior lesson plan for the LSAT.

    So far, I have completed about 100 games and I plan on doing all 340 games. However, I am struggling with sufficiency/ necessary and formal logical concepts. Does the either the LSAT Ultimate or Premium cover these concepts in greater detail than what I can find in my Power Score books?

    As an older research scientist (and patent analyst) with several graduate degrees and significant experience in academia, I find the process of law school admissions quite myopic and certainly not holistic; despite what some adcoms might say publicly. Lawyers I know say the process is flawed: “Just get the best scores possible and get into the most reputable (based on rankings) school possible; UT Austin law top 50% makes it much easier to get a job than a top 5% at Texas A&M.”

    In your opinion, how heavily weighted is the LSAT score above anything else in your application?

    After applying to several schools in 2010, I got the impression there is a minimal threshold of either an Index or LSAT score before they will review an application. I would predict they triage applications based on LSAT scores (e.g. 170s vs 160s vs 150s vs 140s stacks) until they fill up their class. In 2010, I was accepted at two private schools ranked about 80th and 120th with a 154 and about a 3.20 total GPA. However, I wasn't offered any financial aid. So, I decided not to attend because of the debt and the difficulty in finding a job from those schools.

    Since then, I have worked for a patent litigation firm as a scientific adviser and passed the patent bar exam.

    My goal is to get my LSAT score between the 25%-75% admissions profile of all my target schools (ranked 20-100) and then just let my applications fly.

    Given the expense of law school, how associates are hired (based on class rank and perceived school reputation) and that only a few big firms which do IP work in the life sciences, I am only going to aim for law schools ranked between 20-100 (mostly 20-50). Otherwise, it might not be a prudent investment to attend a lesser ranked school (or at least until I can obtain the right LSAT score to get in the right school with financial aid). I predict I will need about a 160-165 before my application would be considered or even possibly read by these schools. In my opinion, a tier 3 or 4 school is not worth the 100-150 K in debt and the lack of job prospects.

    Recently, I contacted a highly regarded admissions consultant and got into a rather contentious discussion about the relevance of the LSAT in the admissions process. Further, we talked how rankings influence a student's ability to get a job after graduation. In my opinion, this over-emphasis on LSAT scores seems rather silly and doctoral programs never place so much weight on one's GRE scores. She kept arguing that the LSAT is a good indicator of first year grades. As I laughed, I told her that's manure and certainly not worth $250 per hour.

    I pointed out that the correlation coefficient between LSAT scores and first year grades is roughly 0.36 median with a margin of error between .12 to .56. The correlation coefficient between LSAT scores and the bar passage rate is even lower. Law school grades and bar passage rates seem to be more strongly correlated. As a scientist who has performed correlation analysis on medical data, any statistician will tell you that a correlation less than 0.40 is rather meaningless and that there is no relationship between the two events. Plus, the margin of error is rather large. The distinctions adcoms (and students) try to make about subtle scores differences is just flawed based on the LSAC statistics.

    So why do administrative legal professionals make these conclusions about LSAT scores, law schools grades, rankings, and bar passage rates?

    Are they just trying to protect their jobs and voice their support for the standardized test industry?

    Don't they understand the LSAT is teachable with practice and favors rich students with a lot of money to pay for tutors and LSAT prep classes?

    My boss, a partner, remarked to me about this: "the most qualitative profession chooses the most quantitative approach for admissions into the profession."

    References:

    http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/your-score/law-school-performance

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2013/09/law-school-gpa-.html

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-interpret-a-correlation-coefficient-r.html

    (see the last section on interpreting coefficients)

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