Hi,

I've currently only taken 2 PT's (50, June 2007). I purchased some LSAT question bundles from cambridge lsat and drilled a bunch of LG and RC from tests 1-38. After each topic JY taught, I would spend about 2-3 hours doing drills from those packets.

I'm thinking of taking every other 50s test and then doing each 60-68 test.

Is this a good plan?

On PT 50 I screwed up hard on LR but after calming down my nerves and "retaking" the LR section I improved substantially. I have heaps to go though before I can say I am confident in my abilities to score 0 wrong (or as few wrong as possible). I did okay on the other sections but as mentioned in another post I ran out of time on the RC but got one wrong while missing two on LG because I didn't read my own inference chart properly...

If you already have access to the full course:

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/logic-games-habits-for-speed-and-accuracy/

Otherwise, I'm reproducing the contents of that lesson here. What good habits do you cultivate for LG?

Good habits:

-Tick off rules as you translate them into our visual language.

-Write out rules neatly, close to each other.

-Combine rules with overlapping items.

-Every time you encounter a new rule, think about how it interacts with the game items, the board, and the previous rules.

-Reduce visual clutter.

-Try to split the main game-board into sub-game-boards.

-Remember to check for floaters.

When stuck:

-Sufficient failed, rule irrelevant.

-Necessary satisfied, rule irrelevant.

-Pare down and rewrite your rules that still remain.

-Take stock of what items are left.

-Count the number of items left against number of slots left.

-Close out groups when they are full.

Stop the explanation video after the game-board setup. Try to solve the questions yourself.

For this question here:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-21/

My question:

If E is right, it didn't resolve this discrepancy. Because E implies "if all and only those who ate a particular seafood dish at the restaurant contracted the illness", which only prove that contaminated dish caused the illness. But what official believe is that "contaminated seafood caused the cases of illness". "seafood" and "dish" is not a same thing.

We all know what AP and MP questions are, but I have ran into many harder AP and MP questions where the stimuli does not actually explicitly state the conclusion, making it difficult to label the different roles each sentences play. The conclusion in these questions are instead implied by the structure of the argument. Since I have ran into several questions like this, I have reasons to believe that this is a recurring theme on harder AP questions that we should be familiar with. However, this is only a hypothesis based on my experience, so I am here to ask all of you to pay attention to this type of questions and post it on this thread to confirm or reject this hypothesis.

Here are two questions that I have so far.

Preptest 28 Sec 3 # 14

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-14/

The conclusion here is that citizens in a democratic country should not neglect to vote.

Preptest 50 Sec 2 # 19

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-19/

The conclusion here seems to be that one should not go too far in limiting one's fat intake.

In either case the conclusion is not mentioned in the stimuli.

What are your opinions' on this?

Hi everyone, I am taking the LSAT in December (I am working abroad so I only have time to study part time) I am thinking of doing a timed Preptest every Saturday up until test day (and of course finishing off the 7sage course), or in other words 21 timed PT's, and during the week really going over everything thoroughly, blind reviewing etc. There is quite a bit of additional material in the course from other tests so I am thinking that this should be enough. I am aiming to score in the high 160's, I have written the LSAT once before after attempting self studying while also working, and I didn't spend nearly enough time and did very few actual full length PT's. I scored in the 150's, and my goal is to improve 8 to 10 points. I am wondering what you guys think? I believe that doing 21 as opposed to 30ish tests will allow me to really review properly and take my time without overwhelming myself, which may be the disadvantage of attempting to squeeze in more preptests before or after work etc. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

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I recall JY saying in the intro lectures that 7sage was fully compatible with mobile devices. I encourage all students to take advantage of this feature!

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Hi all! I'm new to the forum although I have been using the LG videos which I've found very helpful - thank you for providing this free resource!

I'm curious, does anyone read the questions first before reading the passage? I used to do this on the SAT (baaack in the day) and found it helpful.

Any other good RC prep tips? I haven't really concentrated on this section in my studying.

Thanks!!

Stimulus:

New Age philosopher: nature evolves organically and nonlinearly...

Flaw question.

I am down to B and E

B: overlooks the possibility that the overall structure of a phenomenon is not always identical to the overall structure of the reasoning that people do about that phenomenon.

I don't know why B is wrong. It seems to me that in the stimulus philosopher claim that the overall structure of a phenomenon (Nature) is organic, holistic, nonlinear. And also philosopher recommend we use the identical overall structure of the reasoning(organic, holistic, nonlinear) to understand that phenomenon, which is exactly what B says.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-49-section-2-question-18/

I noticed that some games are very easy to diagram. However, I am always unsure on how many sketches I should make. In order to save time, is there a general method for knowing when to draw multiple diagrams vs. using only one?

I just took PT 50 after going through the syllabus and I did TERRIBLY on the LR. I just blanked out while taking the test because some of the LR questions were SOOO much harder than the questions I drilled using Cambridge packets.

I got 1 wrong on RC (ran out of time on the last question... but I got it right during blind review! still I did run out of time...), 14 wrong on LR (S***!!!! Even after blind review I had 8 wrong :/), and 2 wrong on LG (missed an inference... thankfully got it during blind review).

I couldn't even understand some of the LR stimuli and wanted to cry lol.

How do you suggest I go about getting better at LR? My plan was to do PT's every 3-4 days in August and September starting from #50 and hope to hit 175+ but after this I feel like an idiot. I followed JY's methodology (I think 7sage is the best course I've taken to prepare for LSAT) but there is something wrong with my comprehension level that I am still struggling. How can I improve? Please I have just two months to set LR straight.

I scored a 16x something on the 2007 june PT.

tl;dr My comprehension level is lacking when it comes to LR questions and I am unable to understand some of the stimuli. I know I can do the questions because 7sage's methods have been VERY helpful but I was unable to answer some of the LR's on the PT in time even though I did reasonably well when going thru cambridge drill packets answering each question in less than 1.5 min.

Hello, I am planning to review the course, so I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of the green check in front of each lesson, which really gets in my way of doing this. Thanks!

Some classes of animal are so successful that they spread into virtually every ecosystem...

Answer: the argument is flaw because "what is true of a whole is also true of its constituent elements"

However, It seems to me that the argument is quite valid. All insects are so successful and ants are the most successful among insects, we can conclude that ants are also successful, which means is not a threatened species. I can't find "whole" "part" flaw here. Anyone help me ?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-1-question-17/

I don't know if anyone has this problem and I know the obvious answer to this question would be to just slow down and take more time but I was wondering if anyone finds themselves repeatedly mis-recording rules - messing up something very simple - such as replacing one variable letter with another. I am finding I don't miss infrences as much as I make a dumb mistake such as mis-recording a rule under timed conditions. It is problem, i believe, directly related to trying to get down the rules as fast as possible in order to give myself the most amount of time on the game. However, one slip in the smallest detail while recording the rules can destroy your timing if you have to go back once its been noticed (which is almost always the case, lol). If anyone has had this problem and had any specfic drill, exercies, w/e, that they used to over come it, I would be more than willing to hear them out about it.

Thanks

Jake.

Hello all!

Just out of curiosity, can you guys/gals list a few of your prep habits/exercises that you do or have picked up from someone else (other than preptests, timed preptests, the obvious, etc) that you feel are effective? Example: reading The Economist to stimulate comprehension skills, waking up every Saturday and taking a test at the time you are scheduled to take the LSAT, etc. Thanks and Good Luck!

Wondering for the LR, if J.Y. suggests us doing them (IE: drilling them) in the order they are given in the syllabus, due to their nature of building on one another? Or am I wrong in this thinking?

Philosopher: It is absurd to argue that people are morally obligated to act...

I am totally lost in the last sentence of this stimulus. Can anyone clarify the meaning of last sentence to me ?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-3-question-20/

Just came across a discussion where LSAT takers were saying they start at the middle of the LR sections, essentially getting the hardest questions out of the way first. then working on the easier ones last (1-10/11), since you can speed read those quicker. Do you recommend this approach? I've never heard of this before, they say this is where they saw their biggest jumps.

* Premise:

- TV news watchers have NO expectations of careful discussion of public issues.

- newspaper readers have the expectation of careful discussion of public issues.

* Conclusion: In contrast to regular newspaper reading, regular watching of network television news programs increases the tendency to think of public issues in oversimplified terms.

*** WEAKENING Answer: Regular watchers of network television news programs are much more likely than other people to be habitual readers of newspapers.

(PT 11/Section 2/#18)

I can see how the answer overlaps the two demographic groups(newspaper readers and TV watchers), but can't the conclusion still stand? Even if the same people watch the news AND read newspapers, the action of watching news itself(=the subject of the conclusion) can still have its impact. Whether they do read the newspapers or not, anybody who watches the TV news are still subjected to the influence of watching TV.... No?

Can anyone point out the critical flaw in my reasoning?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat11-section-2-question-18/

Hi all, this question comes from PT35, section 1, question 23, i chose E on this one. Can anyone share your thoughts on why E is incorrect?

I thought the author makes assumption that in order to survive, you need to have many beliefs, and then the statistician's rule is all about overall correctness of the total set of one's belief. So the author is implying if you want to survive, you need to have many correct beliefs, right? given the statistician's rule, this is not going to happen, so that is why they are incorrect.

Thanks in advance!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-1-question-23/

Today I do PT46, which is the first PT I do after diagnose.

I got actual 159(76 right), BR 167(87 right).

Actual Reading 19/27, Game 20/22, LR 19/25, 18/26

Blind review: Reading 23/27, Game 21/22, LR 23/25, 20/26

Time management is still a big problem, I can't finish every section except games.

Is it possible for me get 170 on October? I plan do 3 PT a week with Blind Review.

I wonder if we have PT69 and can we can the explanation for that one ?

Hey a little background info for me on my LSAT life

Started studying in May - May and June were mainly LG stuff ,and I wasn't studying properly really. I started studying properly in June, and July is almost done now. I diagnostic at 140, so In about 2.5 months I made a 10 point jump.

My breakdown was about : RC - 15, LR:13, LR 15, LG 14 (these are the amounts I got correct)

I also feel I did not perform as good as I could have today, I felt really tired and not focused but was anxious to see where I was at. I think I made some dumb mistakes here and there that probably cost me a few points. For example, one of the questions I was looking over said only 1% chose the answer I picked, which was wrong. This tells me its a really dumb error on my part, and this was in LR which is usually my best section.

What is everyones opinion? My goal is to get LG's down to at least just -3, but preferably to -0. LR, strangely, didn't show much improvement although I have been drilling it a lot lately which kinda of sucks. Hoping to get that score up as well.

Hi all!

I'm looking for someone/some people to write preptests with Toronto. I think that the social pressure will make me take it more seriously and give me a bit more discipline. And then after we can do blind review together. Let me know if you're interested. I will most likely write the tests at Robarts library at U of T as I can't think of anywhere better to go haha.

Caitlin

Hi everyone,

I live in the Chicago area, and I'm studying heavily for the October LSAT administration. I'm looking for someone who is scoring in the low 160's right now so that we can both learn together. I'd prefer someone who actually lives in the Chicago area so that we could ostensibly meet up once in a while, but I'm also fine with skype/google hangout/facebook/whatever.

As another poster put it, I'm "gunning for a 180," and I'd really love to collaborate with someone who is similarly motivated.