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PT73 BR Tonight at 8pm ET

Well, well, well. About 2 months out and we're gonna BR us some PT73. Needless to say ...

NOTE: We are meeting at 8pm ET tonight. Not 8:30. Latecomers welcome! Gotta give the East Coast folks a break.

Note on all groups

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle nikkers625 .
  • For the regulars: Please let me know if you plan to join tonight's session and have not yet been added to the conversation.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or if you do, just try not to say things like "No, guys, I checked, it's D."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • PLEASE ... Ask questions !!!! In so doing you are giving others the opportunity to uncover weaknesses in their own understanding, review fundamentals, and ultimately improve their own score. And you're giving yourself the opportunity to do the same. Wow, such harmonious learning experience.
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    The video explanation was a bit murky here. I'm not so sure why the answer choice is C. I have a good theory on why people likely mistakenly pick C even though it is the right a/c. There are some issues I have with it.

    1. its trying to say that if the number of science and engineering students in university programs has increased in the last 5 years then that is somehow proof or strengthening the idea of there being no shortage of scientist and engineers. This is a problematic shift, it requires us to assume they stay in that program, graduate it, AND work in that field. There is no evidence that these people have even graduated never mind ward off an IMMINENT and CATASTROPHIC shortage. Imminent means about to happen, how can people who entered university 3 years ago and are not even employed ward off and IMMINENT shortage? we don't even know when in the last 5 years this increase happened. We just know generally

    2. It is also using a raw number to address a question about a total proportion. In otherwords, the correct answer choice here, C, is a percents and numbers FLAW! It would be like saying ok you have a shortage of 90% of workers. C is saying but you have a significant increase in the NUMBER of science grads, so what, you went from 10,000 to 50,000, that doesn't ward of the IMMINENT AND CATASTROPHIC shortage of 400,000 science grads needed. This matters because shortage means proportion it is a ratio not a raw number. It is the amount of jobs to job seeker ratio. You cannot solve this question with a total number.

    3. I try to see how C could at least be right, but I have a real problem with it. I suspect most people don't recognize it as a ratio issue and just say yeah more students ----> more grads -----> -more job seekers ----->avert shortage and therefore Strengthen conclusion. There is a problem at literally everyone of these jumps but the worse one is you can have a significant increase of students, grads, job seekers, and still not avert an IMMINENT and catastrophic shortage. Maybe I am just not seeing where he is trying to strengthen correctly.

    4. So which a/c would I have chosen? Probably D? Why, it is the only question who addresses the issue in the argument and thus has the POTENTIAL to strengthen. If certain science fields have an oversupply and others have a shortage. That indicates 2 thins. 1) For the oversupply field clearly there is no imminent and catastrophic shortage, supporting the conclusion. 2) For the shortage field there is also no imminent and catastrophic shortage, it is a shortage but its not described as imminent or catastrophic, so it indeed also supports the conclusion.

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    Hi guys,

    For question #2, we are asked to break down this argument into premises, conclusion, and context.

    The common procedure for determining whether a food additive should be banned from use is to compare its health related benefits with its potential risks. Yellow Dye No. 5, an additive used to color lemon soda, might cause allergic reactions in a few consumers. For most consumers of lemon soda, however, the coloring enhances their enjoyment of the beverage. This particular additive should not be banned, therefore, because its benefits greatly outweigh its risks.

    This was my answer:

    Context: The common procedure for determining whether a food additive should be banned from use is to compare its [food additive] health related benefits with its potential risks.

    Premise: Yellow Dye No. 5, an additive used to color lemon soda, might cause allergic reactions in a few consumers.

    Premise: For most consumers of lemon soda, however, the coloring enhances their [most consumers] enjoyment of the beverage.

    Premise/Sub Conclusion: because its [Yellow Dye No. 5] benefits greatly outweigh its risks.

    Main Conclusion: This particular additive [Yellow Dye No. 5] should not be banned.

    J.Y.'s was different. Can people explain to me why my answer is wrong? It makes sense to me since the first two premises explain why the sub conclusion (Yellow Dye No.5 benefits greatly outweigh its risks) which then in turn supports the main conclusion. Thanks!

    Admin note: This is the lesson:

    http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-context-identification-1-answers/

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    Hi all, I started doing timed past tests but can't finish LG sections (LR and RC are fine). Should I come back and finish the leftover LG questions untimed but continue doing the rest timed? How should I go about doing timed prep tests now?

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    Is it better to take the September LSAT if I want to enroll for the fall of 2015? Or would it matter if I change my test date to the December LSAT? Do schools give all of their scholarship money to their first applicants?

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    I seem to have some trouble grasping lawgic diagramming. does anyone have tips? Once things get a little bit more complicated I seem to have trouble pulling some of the correct parts.

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    Saturday, Sep 6, 2014

    180watch

    Hi everyone I'm looking for the 180watch or any other similar watch that has a button that resets it. Message me if anyone is selling or knows of a similar watch I could buy. Thank you all!

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    Hello everyone,

    I was wondering if anyone had any information as to how long it takes LSAC to receive and process letters of recommendation sent through the mail. My recommender put his letter in the mail on November 13th and I still have not gotten an update from LSAC. I checked to make sure that they sent the correct form with the letter and they confirmed that they did. Should I be worried?

    Thank you!

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    This might be a weird question, but I was just wondering if anybody has taken the LSAT at the Texas A&M Commerce location. I am real big on environment so I was wondering if anybody could tell me if it is somewhat loud, if we are sitting in super close proximity with other people, if it was cold, etc. I would like to try to simulate my prep-test environments to what it will be like on the day of - I get distracted very easily with noise, closeness to people, and cold temperatures so I wanted to try to train myself to be ready. Sorry if this is weird!

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    When an answer choice says “it is a statement that the argument provides grounds to accept and from which the overall conclusion is inferred”, is this essentially the premise.

    Or is the premise “it is a premise offered in support of an intermediate conclusion of the argument “?

    We the people want to know

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    I understand the explanation for the question and the diagramming that led to the answer. However, I still am confused with the first line of the stimulus: "Because of the recent transformation of the market". Using the lesson on for/since/because being followed by a premise, that was my assumption and how I attempted the problem the first time around.

    None of the explanations use that first sentence at all though. They just use

    /10% --> B

    and

    10% --> 20%

    Why is the because in line 1 not used as per the for/since/because lesson?

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    Monday, Jul 14, 2025

    🙃 Confused

    PT Blind Review

    Just took a practice test and proceeded to the Blind Review after.

    How representative is the score of the Blind Review to my overall success of taking that PT? Should I expect growth to that score?

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