So, took my first diagnostic, and I will be completely honest..133.

I don't really know what to say actually at this point.

Just a little self-introduction:

Senior business major at Middle Tennessee State University graduating this December. 3.9 GPA. (4.0 all the way until got a B in Accounting this spring) 4 semesters in a roll on Dean's list. Full ride all the way.

But this LSAT is so different than any of the tests I've ever taken.

1 Logic Games. Had NO clue what to do. Completely guessed every single one of them.

2 Time. I seriously don't have enough time for either LR or RC. Only finished about 15 to 19 then had to guess the rest.

I know this is kinda an old subject for you guys who have experiences in this field but I seriously don't see how I could improve reading speed by THIS standard without not knowing what I am reading. And we all know if don't understand what I am reading, then forget about answering questions. Oh, also gotta answer them correctly.

I know it's my first diagnostic without any prep but I am still feeling extremely defeated and discouraged...I'll admit I'm not one of those beasts standard test taker. I'm not used to this. It completely shattered my expectation and self-esteem. I'm speechless...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Update: Just kidding, y'all ... I'll be on all of the calls this week :D

(s)Eleven(/s) TEN weeks. Four days. And change. That's how long we've got until the October LSAT.

It's about to get real. I'm 80% of my way through this phase of my LSAT life.

Note: Weekday (Weds/Fri) calls now starting at 8:30PM ET.

Please also note: Saturday calls still start at 8pmET!

Wednesday, July 22nd at 8:30pm ET: PT56

It's on!

Friday, July 24th at 8:30pm ET: PT72

This will likely be a very small group, but I will be there. A few of us want to keep taking PT's in the later test eras so that we can retake/learn mo' deeply.

(s)LSATurday, July 18th at 8pm ET: PT57

I'll be there. Will you?(/s) didn't happen.

Note on all groups

Hey all,

I couldn't search for the answer to this as it showed every post containing the word LSAT but is it known when the LSAT Ultimate+ Tier will be available for purchase? I have Premium, and would like to get at least Ultimate, but don't want to purchase it until I see what Ultimate+ costs due to it having the Prep tests after 72 + the hard question sets.

Right now I can upgrade to ultimate for $200 USD with + being TBA. If it does get released at say 300 from my current level, if I've already upgraded to Ultimate for 200 would the upgrade cost a difference of $100? Buying test explanations individual can add up to being a lot after you toss in the USD to CAD exchange rate so to get it all bundled together with as many tests as possible would help me a lot.

Finally, I noticed that the individual test explanations went on sale a few months back. Does that happen periodically or was that simply because the pdfs were being removed?

Thanks guys!

Just imagine, we take this exam about 75 times (assuming you take almost all of the PTs), not all of them are "failures" relative to our own goals, but imagine being turned down hundreds of times? Never stop moving, if some people stopped believing in their ideas we'd never have these things.

http://puu.sh/jeVGK/22d45ac878.jpg

Does anyone know when they will be made available?

Hey!

As I work through the LR/Reading Comp sections, there will occasionally be questions that stump me even when I get the correct answer choices.

I know LSAT Hacks provides answer explainations for the newer tests and SOME older ones. Are there any more explanations out there??

Hi Everyone,

I keep seeing various people talk about the 'LG Bundle' and I was wondering where I could purchase it or if it's even still available.

Thanks for the help!

I wanted to buy the 7sage starter course, but I don't have PTs 39 to 44 (the ones the courses use) so I will have to buy them separately. Are these PTs too old? Currently, I am following the trainer schedule and they use 52-71 which I do have. I started reading the trainer already and only took the 2007 diagnostic so far. Should I purchase 7sage starter course since they use older PTs and then pick up on the trainer since they use newer PTs? Or should I just not get the 7sage at all continue with the trainer and then If I still don't feel comfortable once I finish get 7sage? Thank you!

Hi all. I'm sure this has been addressed many times before, but does The Trainer use questions from Prep Tests that 7Sage doesn't?

I'm thinking about using it as a supplement, but I don't want to waste too many questions from valuable practice tests.

Other thoughts on The Trainer? Thanks.

Hi all, just wanted to share a great tool that has been working well for me to organize my study tasks. I think there are some particular challenges for self-guided LSAT students regarding time management and where to focus, and perhaps some of this can be addressed with better organization. I have been using Trello to keep track of four main categories: To learn (core curriculum/fundamentals), To review (material I know I am fuzzy on or need to memorize), To practice (problem sets to drill), and then notes about what is currently tripping me up on each section. I have also organized my overall study timeline on this tool. You can add checklists to cards, and due dates for cards as well.

Works great for me - if anyone is struggling to get organized or keep track of work outside of the 7Sage syllabus, I recommend this.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-2-question-14/

It seems as answer A is actually agreeing with Lee's argument. Am I incorrect by thinking that the question stem is asking for us to refute Lee's argument?

Hey guys I just just thought of something crazy, and possibly really stupid... but what the hell, I'm going to share it with you anyways! I've always thought the way JY goes through logic games by copying, pasting and erasing game boards really quickly and easily was really awesome. We obviously can't do that while doing games and erasing when you do everything with a pencil gets really messy.

During questions instead of writing down hypotheticals I end up keeping a lot of things in my head which sometimes results with me making stupid, really stupid mistakes. A few seconds ago I just thought to myself: Why don't we just write the main game board with a blue colored pen and then go through the questions with your normal pencil? I think this can give us the flexibility of jotting down new info for each question (if it's useful) with your pencil over your main game board and then quickly erasing after we are done answering. Any thoughts?

LSAC saves your rear end once again:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990718689

Hopefully this will come out before October.. apparently they ran into publishing issues and it was delayed.

Do all law schools differ as to which LSAT is accepted for fall admission? Is it primarily the December LSAT that is accepted for all fall applicants/applications?

If I do not receive the best score possible or the score I was looking forward to receiving after taking the December LSAT, I was thinking of re-taking it in February of next year hoping to apply for fall of the same year. Is that too presumptuous of me? LOL. Most likely it is.

Just to provide some background, I started studying for the test in June (completed the PS LG Bible and skimmed a bit of the LR Bible), and I started 7Sage (The Starter Course) two weeks ago. I'm currently 40% of the way through the 7Sage Core Curriculum, but I'm thinking about adding in timed sections every day or full PT's every day. My question is - how soon is too soon to start doing Practice Tests? I initially planned on taking the test on October 3rd, but I might change that to December.

Since I haven't completed the course, I'm worried that starting too soon will result in the development of bad habits. I have access to all of the Practice Tests released, and I'm fairly certain that I won't be able to complete them all with BR by the time October comes. It almost seems like they're just going to waste (and part of me just wants to make use of them already haha...). I know that another alternative is supplementing the course with questions that correspond to the question types I'm covering in the curriculum, but I'm not sure what the best method would be for incorporating them. That, and I don't know of any comprehensive list that can tell me which ones are which, in terms of question types, so I can just go straight to them (If anyone has something like this, it would be greatly appreciated!!!)

I've been studying full time, and can continue to do so until the end of September, at which point I'll have to cut down some due to school. It would just be nice (and reassuring, since I feel like I've been completely winging all of this lol) to get some advice on how I should be managing my study time. I've basically just been following the 7Sage syllabus to the T for the past two weeks, but I'm wondering if there's more that I should be doing as I'm going through it.

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance! This website and forum have been great help!

I would like to take the December LSAT, but am not sure if I can perform as well as I would like. My goal is 160+ range. I do have time on my hands. I am willing to work my butt off If it can be done. If so, what resources and study plan should I follow. (Just purchased the trainer) Thank you :)

Let me start by saying I have not taken the LSAT. With that said I have some questions.

-Does everyone get the same experimental type? Could john get RC and Susie get LG?

-How much harder/easier is this section? Do you know right away?

-Does it appear at different times for students? John's test starts with experimental but Susie has it last?

-How many different experimental sections are their if their is more than one?

-Do you get your score back for that section?

I have decided to go to law school after I graduate from my college. I started LSAT prep on May 22 for the October LSAT. I know it is hard to improve a lot with a short amount of time. I got 138 for the cold diagnostic test, and I am aiming for 157 October LSAT. The problem is that English is not my first language, and I am not good at reading comprehension. I took a prep test last week after studying for 6 weeks (just reviewing the materials in 7sage, not bible), and I got 150 with using about 50-55minutes per section. It was impossible to finish the test within 35 minutes per section. I am planning to take two PTs every week and review them, and I also going to read bibles. That is all I am planning to do right now. Do you guys think it is possible to get 157 on October LSAT? Is there any tips for studying Logical Reasoning section? Thank you!

Wouldn't it be great if all LSAC proctors used the 7sage proctor? It would be reliable, consistent, and would reduce the rate of errors on their part. Or they could use some other type of app that isn't endorsed by any one particular LSAT company. The fact that they use manual timers (which allows for time shortages) is quite ridiculous in my view.

(It should be painfully obvious this is only wishful thinking) :p

Hello Everyone. I am creating this discussion to find out if anyone here has similar work hours with me and interested in BRing in the morning or on Monday or Tuesday night. If you are, please comment below and we can see if we can come up with another BR group in addition to the ones that already exist here.

Hi everyone, I am around 3-4 months into my preparation (finished 7sage curriculum and left with half of the trainer), my diagnostic (PT 55) was 150 and BR was 156 (I just did BR for fun with little idea about fundamentals) and I took a PT again (PT 39) sometime back, it was a heartbreaking 154 with a BR score of 167. I felt that I need timed section practise for a while before I take more PTs. Could anyone please suggest resources for the same? Does it still help to practise timed sections from PT 1-35 even though I have done some of the LR questions while finishing the curriculum and the trainer.

60.3.22

Is there a solid reason as to why C is not a necessary assumption?

The premises clearly say that increasing demand causes gasoline price raise. This is same as saying gasoline demand can't increase without gasoline price increase, which is C.

Just because it's a premise doesn't mean it's not a necessary assumption in case that is one of the reasons one used for elimitating this choice. I see why A is a required assumption but don't see why C is not.

Note: These changes are now live!

Hi everyone,

We were really eager to improve problem sets after LSAC changed their licensing requirements, so we pushed out LR problem set changes before we should have. This resulted in a lot of confusion - thank you for bearing with us through all these changes, sorry!

We've been working hard to do an overhaul of the problem sets that we hope you'll all like. We hope to roll out the changes in about a week, but it may take longer. Here are the major changes:

* You will be able switch between seeing the new problem sets and the old ones from the Account settings page. So if you select the old problem sets, you'll only see those ones and not the new ones. The new problem sets are the default. The old problem set lessons will be back where they used to be if you select old problem sets. Shoutout to @focaliant for this great suggestion!

* There will be little to no overlap between the core curriculum and the problem sets. Some of you noticed that some of the questions in the old and new problem sets were also in the core curriculum, and we wanted to fix that.

* There will be new RC and LG problem sets.

* The new LR problem sets will be reordered to ramp up difficulty a more evenly.

This means that if you are in the middle of a group of the new problem sets, we recommend finishing that group and delaying other problem sets until after the changes take effect.

For example, if you're in the middle of the new group of Most Strongly Supported problem sets, you should try to finish them, and put off the Weaken problem sets until after the change is done.

If you are in the middle of a group of problem sets when the change hits, then you may end up skipping some questions, and repeating others. Not a catastrophe, but it is definitely cleaner if you're not in the middle of a group of problem sets.

Hello everyone,

I know the topic was overly discussed but i think it would be useful for starters to have a list of what, most people, believe are the best resources for each area or just in general... I know how valuable 7sage is and the Trainer also seems to be a unanimity but besides that if everyone helped to put a nice list together i think it would be a nice starting point.

Thank you all

I will be shortly be studying for the LSAT again! Woohoo!

Here's a #TBT from the last time I was studying. Share your pics as well!

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