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So I just registered for the September 2019 LSAT on BYU's campus. I'm trying to find out where on campus the test is actually administered, but I can't find anything. Is that something that I won't be able to find out until I can print my admission ticket? Any information is appreciated! Thanks!

Do you guys scan the answers or just jump right in and try out games?

I realize this is very game dependent. I usually scan the answers choices quickly, but if nothing jumps out I force myself to jump right into trying out all the answers. I found myself wasting time on open ended game boards trying to think about why an answer choice could be correct, and coming up with nothing for all my "thinking" time. So know I try to just jump right into testing the answers.

Today I came across a game, LSAT 10, Game 4 http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-10-section-2-game-4/, that has me rethinking my strategy. I didn't make the inference at the start that Y must be in, though I DID make the difference that at least one of X/Z must be out. When I got to question 23, I quickly looked at my master game board didn't come up with any that must be in, so just jumped right in to trying out the possibilities. I got through A and B, before scanning the remainder of the choices and quickly realized that Y must be in.

The game took way too long in general, not just because of this question, but still interested in how you guys handle "thinking" about correct answer choices, or just jumping in and trying possibilities.

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Absolutely clueless on this one. I've probably watched the video 5 times, and I just don't see how B weakens the argument that is in the passage. Also, can someone look at my reasoning for A?

Win democratic elections not fully subsidized--->poor candidates supported by rich. As a result, it could be true that the poor candidates will compromise their positions to win the rich guy's support. However, the proportion of rich people in all of the political parties is the same as their proportion in the population. Thus, the belief that it could be true that poor candidates will compromise their position to win the rich people's support is wrong.

What I am looking for: The premise doesn't support the conclusion at all since we don't know whether being proportionally equal nullifies the pressure to conform to the rich guy's opinion. For example, say that rich people are 1% of the population in all political parties; they must then be 1% of the total population. It might be reasonable to say that the rich don't have that big of an influence on policy. Now, what if the proportion was 99%? The rich might have a huge say in policy! Thus, the premise could go both ways in either providing support for the conclusion or not.

Answer A: This is what I chose, but I still am very unsure why it is wrong. I think the argument does fail to address this answer choice. Maybe it is wrong because of the word "primary?" I'm not so sure though since we are usually supposed to accept the answer choices as true. If it is the case that the "primary" function of a party still may not negate the influence of wealth, then doesn't this paraphrase the flaw very well? To me, this is hinting at the idea that the proportion of the wealthy might be so high (or so influential) in political parties that it doesn't matter which one the poor candidate choose, they will have to conform to the wealthy point of view's party.

Say that the word "primary" is the reason why this is wrong (which I am not really sure why it would be), what if this answer choice said "a function of political parties...?" Would it be correct then?

Answer B: Like I said earlier, I just don't see how this weakens the argument. I do think it weakens an argument, just not the one in the passage. Here is my breakdown of this answer choice: say the poor candidate believes, "Every person who takes the LSAT should get a 180 and full ride to Yale" but the Democrats and Republicans both think "absolutely not" (the positions of the parties is way less varied than the position of the candidate). Then sure, joining a political party would compromise the poor candidate's views. But, that isn't the argument in the passage. The argument is that the "possibility of a poor candidate compromising his views to win the support OF THE RICH [not the political party] is not true." How are these two the same argument? In other words, if this is true, isn't the LSAT equivocating between the views of the "political parties" and the views of the "wealthy patrons?"

Answer C: We don't care about government subsidized elections.

Answer D: We don't care about wealthy candidates.

Answer E: We don't care about other flaws.

The answer should be D, as the other answers all call for too much. There is no apparent need for real strength. 'To be believed' is the key phrase.

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Let's get ready for June together! I find that 7sage is great for self study, but when it comes to writing PTs I like to put myself in an environment where other people are writing, too. I find I perform better around real people and it makes PTs go down easier when you're not the only one doing it.

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Did anyone find it very difficult? I've taken about 20 PT's and my lowest score on RC previously was -6. Landed a -11 on this one yesterday

But I was under the impression that conditional statements are not comparisons. I read the first sentence as a comparison and therefore ignored it since I did not read it as a conditional statement. How should I have broken down the first sentence to see the conditional?

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1. How far back is safe for me to take real LSATs? A little bit ago I read somewhere that anything before 40 is too different and can throw you off slightly. Spare me the preferences c-rap unless its insightful. Obviously there are obvious pros and cons to taking them all or just taking the last 30 for accuracy. I just want to know when the major changes in the test occurred. Thanks :)

2. People be crazy on here, studying for a year plus (aka I'm jealous of your planning and dedication and determination). I'll be putting in 4 months total, three months super serious like 50 hours a week minimum. I fully expect to get a 170+. I don't believe in PTing until I've finished all my coursework (Trainer, 2 Powerscores, and Cambridge drills 40 - 61, so I can't back this claim up whatsoever. After I finish I'll be doing at least 51-73/74 PTs, and probably 10 hours with a tutor. (Yes, I am totally fine with doing a PT a day). My point is this: Don't believe the gentle haters that so politely tell you can't or that you need more time. You got this, I got this. Watch a shia labeouf satire video and read a quote about persistence and necessary failure.

3. twoscoopsofpoop, seriously. I'm bearded balding overweight and I've accomplished all this at only 20. I'm totes down to study anything in the trainer now, or powerscores and PT/BR (not sure what BR means) starting Friday. Have a nice day, smiley face.

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When reviewing questions in a drill, it's helpful that the analytics shows the question history. Would it be possible to also include a quick overview of which AC I selected during my previous attempt(s) without actually clicking on the previous attempt? It would be great to see if I'm consistently picking the same wrong AC, if I'm switching between wrong ACs, or if I had a lucky correct guess during the first attempt. Thanks!

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Hey guys,

I was just looking for some specific PTs, mainly the newer ones, that are available for download and discovered that Cambridge is still licensed to sell PDFs of every PT. They also have some awesome Bundles including one for all Logic Games from PTs 1-70 for $90 (instead of $295 for purchasing them separately). If you don't need all of those but want to do JY's method for the games using PTs 1-35/38 they also have a bundle for that, which is only $42.

Just wanted to share this since I was driving myself crazy using the copy machine every time I wanted to make extra copies for a game from one of the 10 Actuals books I have, which incidentally don't include PTs 1-6, 8 or 17.

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Was PT155 comparatively more challenging than other PTs, or is it just me? I specifically really struggled with the first section (LR Exp) and third section (RC).

Proctors:

I don't even know where to start. The proctors were completely inexperienced and as that wasn't enough of a nightmare they were extremely rude to test takers. To be point of humiliating students in front of everyone in the class, making them feel horrible for walking in with labels on their water bottles (just really overusing their authority). They seemed very confused about every step from the time students were entering the room until the time the test was about to begin.

Facilities:

The facilities are alright. The test building is easy to find.

What kind of room:

Just a typical community college class room. Very small setting compare to other I have attended.

How many in the room:

Most 20 students each room. There were several rooms at this testing center.

Desks:

You have to share the desk with another student. There is enough distance between sits, but can be quite distracting with you are a person that gets easily distracted.

Left-handed accommodation:

The desk works for both left and right handed people the same way.

Noise levels:

Very silent, especially since the room is so small.

Parking:

Parking is okay, there is enough spaces for everyone.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

One hour, seems like it is not that long, but the proctors make it so stressful that it seem like YEARS!

Irregularities or mishaps:

This test center is a NIGHTMARE. Like previously mention the proctors make the experience so stressful that you begin the test already feeling horrible about the experience. Unfortunately, the way people act towards me at the test center really impacts my overall experience, so this really ruined it for me. The proctors really abuse of their power, by making a big deal out of every little detail and they were calling out different things in front of the whole classroom making test takers feel really uncomfortable. I felt so humiliated that I went home and didn't finish my exam there, I tried to complain to the LSAC, but nothing was done about it. So, my advice, do NOT sign up for this test center.

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Would you take the test here again?

NEVER AGAIN! I would rather drive 20 minutes to go take the test in Northwestern University (I had a great experience there).

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

December 5th, 2015

For one of my recommenders under the letter's status, it reads "acknowledged." Does anyone know what this means?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-4-question-07/

I'm confused as to why the answer can't be C.

If supply goes down, and halibut is NOT replaced by other fish, then that means that supply has gone down, and even if demand stays the same the price will go up according to the law of supply and demand. There is nothing to suggest that demand will decrease in this scenario.