I've noticed that a huge issue I'm having right now is drawing way too many boards on logic games. Whenever a question introduces new conditions, I can't just picture it in my head- I need to be able to visualize it. I've always been the same way with numbers, I've always been terrible at mental math. What should I be doing to help this? Will I make better inferences in time? I take the LSAT in like a month and would love to address this soon.
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I am trying to figure out how I can better understand negating conditionals. For that I tried to start with truth tables for conditionals. But I found that I am unsure if I understand the truth tables for conditionals.
“Princeville is a city in Quebec. If you live in Princeville (P), then you live in Quebec. (Q).”
In what situation is the conditional relationship P→Q true and in what cases is it false?
In other words when is P sufficient for Q and Q is necessary for P. There are four possible outcomes:
1) you live in Princeville (P=T), you live in Quebec (Q=T). (P→Q applies & is true)
2) you live in Princeville(P=T), you do NOT live in Quebec(Q=F). (P→Q is false)
3) you do NOT live in Princeville (P=F), you live in Quebec (Q=T) (P→Q is F?!? why?)
4) If you do NOT live in Princeville (P=F), you do NOT live in Quebec (Q=F). (P→Q is F?!? why?)
The last two rows do not seem to be very clear for me if we look at set/subsets.
If I replace the conditional statement with subset symbol P→Q =P⸦Q the truth table does not seem to be very clear.
However, the following (from https://courses.lumenlearning.com/frontrange-mathforliberalartscorequisite1/chapter/1-8-truth-tables-conditionals-and-biconditionals/) makes more sense to me.
p → q where p is I live in an apartment and q is then I pay rent.
What are the outcomes?
I do live in an apartment and I pay rent, then the situation is true (no eviction!)
I live in an apartment and I don’t pay rent, then the situation is false (eviction, broken promise)
I don’t live in an apartment but I do pay rent, then the situation is true (though why would you do it?)
I don’t live in an apartment and I don’t pay rent, then the situation is true (no promise broken)
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The truth table makes sense if we define and look at conditionals so:
"If P then Q" simply eliminates the possibility that both P is true and Q is false.
P⟹Q ≡ /(P and /Q) ≡ /P or Q
For the inverse:
It would be nice if there was a clear example of how to do the same for an inverse please. I can do it if /P→/Q = / [/(P and /Q)] = P and /Q. However is there an easy to understand example for this?
Were y'all able to use the control F or command F function on the ProProctor LSAT platform?
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I am so stress with this upcoming test. First, because it will be the last with LG, so I am expecting the worst, to have the most difficult games ever. Second, I am getting loose in LR cause my focus is LG that I am getting incorrect responses, and when I do the blind review i get them correct, and then I think why I cannot think when I am under time pressure. Can someone give me an advise ??? I know my Core curriculum fundamentals are there.
Hi everyone.
I have been using analytics to try and determine where my weak points are with regards to question types but I have noticed that tricky stimuli seem to trip me up more than the actual question type. Analytics claim that strengthen and weaken questions are ones I need the most improvement on but I have been nailing them in recent PTs and I feel like the questions I do get wrong on both timed and BR differ greatly from one PT to the next. There doesn't seem to be a consistent trend. Has anyone else come across this issue?
Most of the time when I watch JY's explanations, I will have that "ah I get it moment" which usually comes about because I didn't consider something in the argument, but of course there are those very few questions I need to really dive deep to figure out why my AC was incorrect or how a seemingly wrong AC is actually the correct choice.
Taking the June 2024 LSAT and I've put up some pretty good scores on each section. I've hit -1 on LG, -2 on RC, and -5 on LR. The only problem is that I've never come remotely close to doing all of that on the same test (for example, when I got a -5 on LR, I got my worst ever score on RC; the very next practice test THE NEXT DAY, I got a -2 on RC and put up my worst ever LR score). I'm done with practice tests before test day, but does anyone have any tips on what I can do to brush up and prevent splitting so dramatically?
Hello all! Who else is taking the JAN2024LSAT? How we feelin?
Can someone explain PTC, S2 Q08? I am trying to understand why A is the right answer and why the other answers are wrong.
Thank you for your help.
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Hi, I've been studying for the LSAT from July this year. My target is 170+ in the Jan 2024 LSAT (ambitious, i know). But my study schedule has not been consistent. It has seen breaks because of a couple of days because of me being sick or vacation or just my mental health. I have been cognizant of the fact that I would have to take a second attempt and the first one is just a trial run to be more familiar with the exam, but what can I do to maximise my score in the Jan (first attempt) exam itself? My RC and LR sections are strong but I'm PTing in the late 40s because of LG.
My confidence is down; its seems like my score is worse after the blind review because i chose the answers that I was conflicted about. how do i make myself sure and confident its the right answer; I chose E instead D; whats the difference between cautious vs skeptical
Hello. I was wondering how many drills you all are doing when you reach the Drill at the end of a LR question type section. I just completed the PAI section and did two drills because I felt like I needed more practice.
Thanks!
This is more of a journal entry for myself as I get closer to test day. Hopefully someone can use some of these!
LG - My worst modality. I wish that I had listened to people from the beginning and just drilled it over and over again. I am really coming to appreciate that mastery simply takes time. If you're new, watch the LG core videos, and then just use the dill auto builder to focus on your worst game types. That's what I am doing now, but I am concerned I started a little too late. I know that my worst games are group-types and Misc. (obviously). So I have been doing 5-10 games a day, with at least one timed section. It's definitely helping.
I listen to the Thinking LSAT Podcast when I'm waiting for new episodes of the 7Sage podcast to come out (prioritize 7Sage's podcast- it's much more practical). One of those dudes said that when he does a LG section, he simply takes it one game at a time- he doesn't watch the clock, he doesn't worry about the next game, he doesn't think about a game that he skipped (if he skipped), he simply gets one perfect game, followed by a second perfect game, followed by a third perfect game, and if time allows, he does a fourth perfect game. It sounds a little silly, but I noticed that my biggest LG score shaker is my perception of time. Not time itself, mind you, but how I feel more and more anxious as the clock is ticking down, knowing that I likely have a harder game up next. I stop focusing, which kills my ability to do the basics- understand each rule, choose an appropriate board, split prudently, don't lose track of rules throughout the game. When I take timed drills outside of PTs, I am relaxed and smooth. I get somewhere between -2 to -4, which is acceptable to me based on my goals. But during PTs, I'll see -5+ consistently. That's the equivalent of almost an entire game. If I had taken 33 minutes to do 3 games, and then guessed on the last, I would probably do better. But I leave points on the table throughout the entire section.
The takeaway is this: do one game at a time. When you do a game, that is it. Think about nothing else. Don't think about how this simple sequencing game should take you less time. Just think about the sequencing game. And then spend more time drilling those games that are slowing you down or causing you to miss points.
LR - In one of the 7Sage podcast videos, Henry says that if you want to get better at RC, do LR. In my experience, I would agree. You're strengthening your reading comprehension and critical thinking ability, one bite-sized chunk at a time. The core videos are again very helpful, but what I noticed is that after doing a few of the full courses for the various question types, you start to feel way more comfortable with all of the types. Spend the time to watch those videos and do the accompanying drills, and you'll see increasing returns with every question type you study.
RC - I have always been pretty good at RC. I think I got a -4 on my first diagnostic, and I will regularly see -1. I don't have as much advice to give, because I feel like I haven't really improved much beyond understanding what the LSAT is looking for. I would suggest being able to paraphrase every paragraph to yourself before moving on. If you can't do that, I wouldn't move on.
General wisdom - There was a period of about 3 weeks that I was trying to get in 4+ hours of studying a day in, plus work, plus the gym. Although I was allotting myself time to review PTs, I simply wasn't allowing my brain the time to heal and absorb new concepts. I was taking a PT every 2 days- test, review the next, test again, etc. That pattern was not conducive to my learning. I have backed it off to 1-2 PTs a week, and spending the rest of that time on focused drills.
Thank you for reading my stream-of-consciousness post.
PrepTest 4 - Section 1 - Question 02
Remember, one is better than 0. The assumption requires that having just the physical exams is necessary and the sufficient argument would be the quality of medical care provided by the laboratory tests, whether uncovered.
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After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.
I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.
I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.
What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.
I just took the November lsat and got a 162. My gpa is around a 3.88 but I think it might end up being higher when CAS adds in my scores from other schools. I really wanted to go to Fordham Law but I don't think I'll be able to get in with this score. I know I could do better because I was scoring between 163-169 on practice tests. Should I cancel my current score and take the January test? getting scholarships is really important to me because I am paying for law school all on my own. I am nervous all the money will be gone if I wait that long.
On 7S you can find explanations pretty fast for BR. Is it the same for taking PT's on LSAC?
I will be taking the online version so it would be great to practice with the actual test interface I will see on test day.
Hi,
Is there anyone here that is an experienced developer that can help with an AI program that can take an article from the web and generate LSAT like RC questions from them?
I’m wondering if anyone else finds the estimated times for the lessons are way lower than the time they are spending? There are some lessons (most lessons) that say they should take 2-4 minutes to read and I spend easily 10 minutes reading them. I’m not worried about it because I think the time I’m taking to really understand the concepts and take notes will help me in the long run. That being said everything is taking me a LOT longer so my studying process will be longer.
Do other people have this experience? Advice? Comments?
Is the core course of $69 really enough to help me prep for the LSAT or should I be implementing something more?
I recently took a PT and as I was taking a LR section, the AC's were invisible and one was marked "Question removed from test" - is there a reason for this?
PrepTest A - Section 4 - Question 11
I chose B, wrong choice, we know about the climate in a location depends on the altitude, but we can infer from the stimulus that the locations at different altitudes, so thats not the flaw. I can see why answer C is correct, cause it overlooks the possibility of other characteristics rather then the shape or the size of the leaves that depends on the climate
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hello, i got a 146 on my lsat and i was wondering if i should just cancel it or keep it ? Im trying to get in the high 150s which i believe i can achieve by the next LSAT exam i take .
I write to share an observation. Sometimes I struggle with the author's belief type question type in RC even when I have a pretty good grasp of the passage. I just realized that the problem might be because I didn't understand what they were asking me to do.
The source of the problem is assuming the correct answer goes further than necessary. The wrong way to approach it is to assume that they're asking you to take the author's argument and apply it in a new way, consistent with the spirit of the passage. Many wrong answers look like that, and I was falling into that trap.
The correct answers are more conservative. It's almost like we should interpret this question type as if it were a Necessary Assumption type in LR. The right answer feels like it's not really adding anything new.
In short, less is more. The correct answer is more like a MBT or a NA than it is an MSS.
Do you agree?

