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Hey everyone-

I've been using start class rankings for sometime but I'm getting an error today and info the site no longer has the law school info.

Was anyone else using this and any ideas what happened?

http://law-schools.startclass.com

Hi everyone, just want to confirm the validity of the answer choices. I find this question confusing, even though I can see (A) is the best AC.

The breakdown of the core is:

ignore anything not directly related to the funded research ——> serendipity is no longer a part of scientific discovery

I can eliminate B,D,E on first read, and after looking into (A), it's essentially saying: directly related——> purposefully seek(no serendipity)

So the conclusion of the argument can go like: ignore anything not directly related to the funded research——>focus on only the directly related stuff——>purposefully seek(no serendipity)——>serendipity is no longer a part of scientific discovery Correct?

However, I still feel like (A) is just the contrapositive of the conclusion! If so, does it work for necessary assumption questions to use contrapositives as the bridge?

Also, is (C) wrong because "personally prefer" is a big stretch?

Thanks a lot!

PSA: The Judicial candor passage from PT 82 is in my opinion one of the best comparative passage to learn from. When done properly, you could conceivably eliminate 80% of answer choices before moving onto passage B.

Would somebody please help me. I am having an awfully hard time with the RC questions and I feel that some answer choices can be debated as opinionated.

I am finding the RC questions much harder than the LG.

Please help. Question #'s 1, 5, 6, 7, & 8, especially #'s 1, 7 & 8.

Thank you.

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-1-section-1-passage-1-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-1-section-1-passage-1-questions/

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I read a post last year about one student who scored in 150s and successfully transferred to CCN. I did not bookmark the post (s/he said something about the new school that does not have transfer stigma and etc).

In the post, s/he mentioned that s/he did something intensive preparation before law school and talked about a few books and supplements s/he used.

I know people are against intensive preparation before law school. But I am an international student (did BA/MA in the U.S. though) and nervous about law school.

I have a not-very-demanding-tutor job and want to read some books besides GTM or Planet LS.

Anyone who happens to remember the post?

To be considered for merit-based scholarships, admitted students at UW must complete a 500 word max scholarship essay. Here is the prompt: "Please submit an essay that describes how you strive to be a leader in the community and what contributions you plan to make at the University of Washington School of Law. You may also provide information about past meaningful achievements, special attributes, and any personal or family circumstances that contribute to your financial need."

Does anyone have any advice for this essay?

Hi, just wondering...How is 40s different from 50s, 60s, or 70s?

Do each 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s have different features?

Especially about LR...

Thank you

!!LONG POST INCOMING!! But I'm pretty lost right now.

I've hit a plateau in my studying where I always get at around 5-6 questions wrong per section because and it's usually just the hardest questions give or take maybe 2 misreads for simpler ones. I know exactly how to each question should be done and answered and I think my biggest issue is that for those hard questions I simply just don't really understand the stimulus and even if I do, the right answer choice sometimes escapes me due to a technicality in wording.

I do run into a bit of an issue with certain question types for sure like weaken or MBT questions. The issue here is that even if I know how to do them and I can get the question right it just simply takes me to long to deduce the right answer. I've been basically trying to drill these question types more often using the filter and also doing more timed practices.

At the same time, I think I also struggle just simply completing the logical reasoning section. I'll range anywhere from 1-5 questions that I simply run out of time for. I try my best to be quick but even at my best I'm left with 2 questions undone. I've seen that some people have time left over to go over previous questions, a speed that seems completely unreachable to me at the moment.

So I guess there are three issues I'm running into and three questions I'm hoping some of you can give me advice on:

I've heard a lot of "just do more questions" and I definitely am but I was wondering if anyone was doing anything specific in terms of drilling or even stuff outside of the LSAT (reading more books/news articles) that you find has helped with your score.

I have a few questions when it comes to logical reasoning so please bare with me. So I know how to pick the correct conclusion and premise and I can do the lawgic translation but I am having a problem translating the lawgic back into English and yes I have reviewed the lessons. Its like when I translate the lawgic back to English what I think the translation is saying is not what the answer choices are saying which then throws me off when its comes to picking the correct answer.So since I was having a problem with this I would paraphrase the conclusion and premise and try to piece together the answer which works for some questions but its not effective in mastering every question as opposed to the lawgic translations. I also get confused when it comes to the group 4 translations so I will add a link in for a question where you can see my thought process.

When should you be doing lawgic translations for logical reasoning questions? When do you know if conditional logic is being used in the stimulus? Is lawgic and logic the same thing?

Are there any tips when it comes to paraphrasing the stem for the lawgic translation? Sometimes I have a little trouble trying to figure out exactly what letters that I should use that will grasp the whole concept of the premises and conclusion. For example, I know that my paraphrase with letters will not be the exact same as JY's but I must admit that his paraphrase captures the whole concept and mine seems overly complicated which then throws me off because I be having the correct premise and conclusion,. What can I do that will help me with the paraphrasing and confusion from the lawgic translation to the English Translation?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/self-expression-strengthen-question/?ss_completed_lesson=931

Premise: What they seems to ignore is that, trivially anything we do is self expressive and also their claim isn't interesting

Conclusion: We are not obliged to take their claim seriously.

Translation: /I and T

/S

Answer is /I...S or /T...S

So the correct answer was C but was confused because I thought that when it came to group four terms you have to do the contrapositive after the negation and Jy didnt. So I thought the final answer would have been s...t or /s.../t but it was t.../s

Hey guys,

Has anyone experienced a score reduction when taking the digital LSAT compared to their physical LSAT scores? I am quite nervous about taking the digital LSAT because I am a person who loves to mark up the paper when doing RC and LR. I find that it keeps me more focused.

I have taken a couple individual RC and LR sections digitally and have found that my scores in those sections have dropped a couple points due to (I think) the inability to physically circle/draw arrows/etc. on the passage or stimulus. Any tips on transferring physical LSAT habits to the digital LSAT?

Thanks!

Are there in study groups in Washington DC area for LSAT in September 2017?

I am planning to take the LSAT in Feb and need to lock in. I have not taken many PTs, and have mostly focused on foundational knowledge and drills. I've discovered that I score well if given adequate time (~167) but score significantly lower under time constraints (~155). I need help with being time efficient while maintaining accuracy and, of course, improving my overall score. I will try to make myself available whenever! LMK!

Do you have to contact your verifiers and let them know you will be using them? (former employers)

Is it possible to schedule the LSAT flex in the middle of the night? Taking the test in the middle of the night would be the most safe option for minimizing disturbances for my environment, but I was wondering if it was even possible.

Are available test times on a 24-7 basis for your region? In previous proctorU registrations I only looked at the specific time I wanted so I didn’t really look at how wide-ranging the times that they had were.

For instance, if I was in the region (Europe, Africa, and the Middle East), would the time slot “3 am” in the UK even be an option for me haha, or are all the time slots limited to just early morning to reasonable nighttime hours. If anyone remembers that would be helpful!

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Side note:

IF ProctorU has 24-7 availabilities, I am also of course curious to hear about any health/scientific comments on health impacts/performance of switching to a nocturnal life. (I used to wake up at 9 AM, sleep at midnight). It would be a major change, but there are 16 days to go until Jan 19 so I think it's possible to adjust to being nocturnal. Just not sure if there might be unknown consequences.

I haven't come across any I've had to diagram and was wondering how common it is to diagram them and if anyone has examples of these in actual LR questions!

Here's my review for Western Washington University. I actually live in BC but this test centre is the closest to my house and it's really good (based on my limited experience) and I'm not really sure I want the word to get out before the next time I have to write haha.

Proctors: There were two women, super friendly and the one at the front was really encouraging, kept telling us how well prepared she thought we looked during the break and after the test was over. They also let us keep water on the desk and reminded people that knuckle cracking was distracting in between sections. Proctors were quiet and I never heard them chatting or saw them moving. One stayed up at the back and the other sat at the front.

Facilities: Restrooms were down the hall, 1 minute walk for slowpokes, 25 seconds for everyone else. I don't know what they looked like because I don't use public washrooms....assuming they were standard, had toilets and sinks...

What kind of room: Small lecture hall (aka higher at the back, lower at the front) with long tables for desks and chairs that were attached by a swivel. Chairs kind of sucked but what can you really expect at a school?

How many in the room: 13 (15 were scheduled but 2 were no-shows). They mentioned to us before the test that they decided to split us into 3 separate groups based on last names so I'm assuming every room had about the same. Plenty of room to stretch out and line up all 15 of your backup pencils. The room was far from being full and I there there was a 3 seat gap in between each person.

Desks: Long tables attached to the floor so no movement. No wiggling.

Left-handed accommodation: No one was left handed in my room but since there were so few of us I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to move if you needed to.

Noise levels: Super quiet. Literally heard nothing the entire time I was writing. They also had signs posted on the room doors as well as the building entrance/exit doors asking for quiet as testing was in progress.

Parking: Pay parking from a meter. Not difficult to figure out. Walked probably 10 feet from my car to the building. When I did a trial drive earlier in the summer they had a visitor centre that was opened where they told me they would issue visitor parking passes for free but unfortunately the centre was closed last Saturday.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: They were really efficient in getting us all lined up and in the correct rooms. We started the first section at 9:05 but only because one test taker was either super nervous and didn't understand how to complete any of his bubble sheet or didn't pay attention to the instructions and just sat there silently not asking questions. A few people also didn't pay attention when they told us to insert the writing sample form into the last page of the test booklet.

Irregularities or mishaps: One test taker was clearly bubbling in answers after the 5th section ended. The proctor at the rear immediately came down and told him he wasn't permitted to be doing that. The front proctor confirmed but still let him continue after he told them he only bubbled in one hole. I (and probably everybody else except the proctor at the front who was almost right in front of him) saw him the entire time as he as the only person noticeably moving after time had been called. He must have bubbled in at least 10 by the time she told him to stop. He claimed he didn't know he wasn't permitted but we got constant reminders about it so I doubt it.

Other comments: I think that this test centre is underused since it's in such a random middle of nowhere location and I didn't see any other reviews on it prior to writing. The proctor also asked us if we wanted a 10 or 15 minute break before the break started. I wanted 10 but no one else did or maybe a bunch of us did but didn't put our hands up...lemmings.

Would you take the test here again? 100% (sadly that will soon be a reality come grey day...)

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Sep 24, 2016

When it asks about the primary function of a specific paragraph, should we pick the answer that connects it back to the whole psg/MP or the answer that relates it to one part (like the paragraph at hand is meant to exemplify the last sentence of the previous paragraph or something like that but that in turn is meant to support the MP)?

And when it asks about the primary function of a specific word or line, should we pick the answer that connects it back to its role in the paragraph it's in or the answer that relates back to the whole psg/MP?

Also is there a difference in the approach if it asks about the "primary function" versus "function?"

I'm finding myself taking a bit longer and getting these function questions wrong and would appreciate any insight or method that helped you!

Does anyone want to review the RC section from PT 84 tomorrow (Saturday, 7/21/18)? I'm looking for someone to review with, so if you're interested, send me a message so we can set up a time to chat about it.

Hi, I am a first year BBA student at Wilfrid Laurier University. Is there anyone who is willing to study with me? If you go to Laurier or are around the area, if would be really cool if we could study in-person. Otherwise, I am just looking for anybody who feels that they could use a partner. Thanks!

Hi all-- I have been studying for the LSAT for over a year (starting June 2016). I took the exam this past June and had hoped/expected it to be my last take. As often happens, I wasn't happy with my score and I am planning to re-take the exam in Sept.

The unfortunate thing is that I have taken almost every single practice test. The only ones I have completely untouched are A B and C (and maybe one other). Thus, I am re-taking the PTs, starting with the oldest ones that I have taken (9-10 months old at the oldest). I do think there is value in that-- but what I am curious about is how much? Unless it is in my subconscious, I remember barely anything from the exams I took the longest ago. However, I am inclined to think that my score on the re-take is not "reliable" in the sense that I have seen the material before, even though the jump in some cases from first take to second take has been 20+ points.

This makes it difficult to gauge if my score is going up or not. I figure the only way to see where my score/average is now is how I do on the untouched exams. What do others think?

Hey everyone, I'm taking the Feb 22nd test and looking to meetup with people in real life to talk all things LSAT... I live an hour south of Tampa and i'm willing to drive to meet at a library or coffee shop.. Thanks

Joe D.

Hello friends!

I am currently applying to a law school in little rock and there is a section that is required, titled, "Statement of Uniqueness." This section says to explain any distinct experiences that I have encountered in my life and how I have grown from those specific aspects. I am a little confused because this section also has an area where you can say, "this section does not apply to me." What should I do? I don't necessarily have some super distinct experiences in my life, so is this necessary?

All help is much appreciated.

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