Hi All

I'm wondering if it's best to start with later answer choices on some of the harder LG questions (rule suspension, 5 IF). Obviously these are time sinks intended by the test makers - especially because if you don't notice any special restrictions you need to try all choices... so it seems like they purposely make the answer choice later ones (E,D..) So is it in our interest to start with later answer choices if we need to test through them?

Any tips/guidelines on what to write on your review sheet?

Can anyone please direct me to the link for LR videos on 7Sage? It would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!

Hey J.Y.

Is there any prep information regarding the essay portion of the exam?

After doing the Stained Glass game (PT 62, Game 2), then watching JY's explanation, I realized I made a major time-waste error when I split the game based on where I placed R....

It seemed like a good idea at the time... but I realize now that it would create 6 different boards...

Anyone have general guidelines on when to split and when not to split?

Is it worth doing simple stats to realize there would be 3x2=6 different gameboards and not worth it?

Are there other rules/guidelines anyone suggests?

I'm looking for someone to take five sectioned prep tests with - we don't have to take the same tests, I just find it very useful to have at least one other person writing it with me. I've been doing 2-3 tests weekly, will be doing at least three tests/week in September.

I'm planning to take the September test. If we take the same prep tests - yay - BR together. Otherwise it'll be motivation/support.

Hey, hello guys. I'm new to this thing, but not new to LOGIC. Are there any places in which I can go and meet people in hopes of finding a good study buddy? I'm in the Tampa/ St. Pete area. I'm willing to cover those to cities.

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Quick question. I've only taken the initial pretest. I've been through the syllabus once but that was some time ago due to various reasons. I plan on signing up for December. Should I go ahead and begin on PT? At this point they won't be timed but I think I need to start figuring out my weaknesses. I was thinking about taking the PT and referring to the lessons when necessary. Does that make much sense, or should I continue to make my way through the entire syllabus again before taking PT?

Hey guys... here is an alternative source of LR explanations for free courtesy Manhattan http://www.manhattanlsat.com/forums/logical-reasoning-f4.html

If you're feeling nervous or stressed (or both) before the exam this Saturday, just sit back and listen to Beethoven's Fur Elise. It does wonders.

Hey y'all. I'm looking for a study partner for the Dec test. Based out of Orange County, CA. This is gonna be my third time taking it and I'm hoping to break the 170 mark. Love to link up with a study partner with similar goals, someone down to motivate one other the next ten weeks, and open to discussing problems any problems with the test. I'm struggling mostly with LR and RC. Feel free to shoot me an email - ahsieh24@gmail.com and we'll touch base. Happy studying!

Strategy question - I tend to actually draw out the arrow and the reasoning like the videos explain it when taking the test. It can be a little tedious and definitely time consuming if the right answer choice is D or E. Do high scorers (-0, -1, -2 in LR) do this as well? If you think you have a better strategy what is it?

Most of us are taught to make inferences for game Rules, but perhaps we should all be more on guard to make inferences when interpreting Questions….

Example:

LSAT 62 – Section 3 – Game 2:

When I hit question 11, I was already mentally exhausted so I didn’t make the key inference that JY pointed out…. that there was 1 g and 2 rs. Then it occurred to me that a lot of seemingly “local” questions state things a less than obvious way – and it’s far more effective to look for inferences IN THE QUESTION.

Again, I'm thinking we can all improve on effectiveness in LG if we also look to draw inferences in SOME questions - at least ones like in the example - they appear local but still too broad at first...

Thoughts?

when I print out PTs from 7sage, my logic games are always a page, front and back, and it get's annoying to have to flip around to look at my master board and so forth... so sometimes i just practice on another piece of paper and use the PT to fill out my answer. I was wondering if the official LSATs logic games have a format of either a whole spread of 2 pages or just one page?

Hey guys,

I saw a recommendation in one of threads to study up on the weirdest logic games in prep for the test on Saturday given the recent tendency to have one really weird game. Seems like a good idea to me. I have been playing "the ten hardest logic games" according to Power Score (link: http://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/lg_10-hardest-logic-games.cfm) but thought this group might have additional suggestions on the toughest/weirdest games. Any ideas?

So with only a week left, I'm seriously beginning to contemplate deferring Saturday's exam to December as I'm still having issues with getting timing down. I was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on any possible disadvantages of waiting until then. I'm planning on applying to primarily Canadian schools.

Hey everyone, I keep getting around a 155 (highest 157) LSAT score on practice tests. I am very nervous about writing the actually LSAT test next Saturday because I have not yet reached my goal of 160-162. Should I still write the test?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-3-question-11/

Hi folks, I can't for the life of me figure out why the correct answer for question 11 in sec. 3 of the June 2014 test is choice A. (This is the question regarding citizen opposition to a new hiking trail on the grounds that users will litter.) Aren't both C and D better choices?

My thanks to anyone who has any idea!

Hi Everyone,

I just came across a free online MOOC from Stanford University called LPL language, Proof and Logic. I think I may be helpful to everyone and didn't want to keep it to myself! There is still time to join - but there is low stress with MOOCs, since you don't have to take it for a grade, etc....

Try to locate it at www.edx.org. You'll be directed to the Stanford MOOC site.

Best of Luck everyone!

What videos in the syllabus help with learning how to approach and ultimately overcome tuff Inference Q's?

I've been consistently within the 167-170 range since June. I can't imagine that I've lost any knowledge or skill in the past week, but my scores have dropped. I scored a 164 on PT 70, and a 166 on PT 72. Logically, I think it's the pressure of the impending administration getting to me, but I can't help but think that somehow the other tests were a fluke, or that the PT's in the 70's are harder than those in the late 60's. I know these recent scores are still "good," but I also know they are not my best. My confidence has definitely taken a blow, and I'm not sure what I can do to regain it in the next week. I had PT 71 scheduled for Monday, should I risk taking it and scoring poorly right before the test? Or should I just work on my confidence? I've put more into this test than I thought I ever could, and I'm utterly disappointed that this is happening with 7 days left. If anyone has experienced something similar to this, I would tremendously appreciate your advice. Thanks in advance!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-3-question-18/

I thought the answer might be D for a very different reason.... the circumstances are specifically described as being about people who don't already own the item, but the survey is about people who do own the item. ie... if you don't already own a GPS system in your car, don't buy one because most cell phones have them - and of course most people who already own a GPS system in their car will like it.... but, again, it's not worth buying because you likely already have a cell phone with GPS.....In sum, I can see that being the reasoning behind D, with the sample being the survey as a whole --- and the group actually referring to people that don't own these things already.

But I have difficulty seeing the explanation JY gave... we're often given survey results - and in surveys there usually is a discrepancy between people who respond and people who don't.... why are we splitting hairs over it here? ie 55 percent of respondents prefer candidate X.... In an LSAT question we normally wouldn't dismiss the result simply because MAYBE there's a discrepancy between respondents and non-respondents... I think LSAC would give us a differently worded question or maybe we'd have to guess the Nec. Assum. But respondent deviation seems way too subtle - even for LSAC - to be the reasoning behind choice D.

Thoughts?

After a ton of hard work, I'm breaking 170 and want to ensure 170 on test day or do better. I have only 1 new PT left which I'll take before the LSAT next week....

But for the rest of my time I'm debating whether to redo some old PTS (there were some recent ones I did before deciding not to take the December LSAT last year) or just watching videos from 7Sage that I haven't done yet.

I've taken other courses before so I only used about 1/4 of the 7sage course videos to help in Key Areas. But I do like the 7Sage method overall and I wonder if it's better to use the rest of the course material (and practice) to really refine my approach.

So redo a couple old recent PTs or more 7Sage videos and practice? Thoughts?

I went through 4-9 Forms today and I feel overwhelmed.

How did you guys remember all these? Do I just need to watch the Invalid Argument Forms videos to understand? Mind blown.

I took the LSAT in June, and got a 166, which was at the lower end of my average and (I think) worse than I was capable of because I got thrown off (I had to pee like a racehorse through the first part of the test before the break). I'm taking it again Saturday, but my biggest issue is, because I took most of the most recent practice tests in June, the only recent practice test I have that I haven't done is PT 71. So lately I've been working on some older ones, which I know are easier (as evidenced by my score going way up),and I still have practice tests 54-61, and practice test 71 (which I'm saving for the last one I do before the real thing.) I know I can just go over the newer ones I've already done, or even erase all my pencil marks thoroughly and retake them, but I was really hoping to take some live, timed PTs for the first time that resemble what I likely face Saturday. Does anybody know if any of PTs 54-61 are especially worth trying, in terms of how they resemble recent trends?