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Hello, I am interested in connecting with individuals who plan to take the LSAT in February at the University of Louisville or will be studying for the test in the Greater Louisville-Area. Contact me if you may be interested in creating a study group or would like to partner with me till the testing day February 2015

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Hey guys,

Hope you all did well on December LSAT. Is anyone thinking about applying to Fordham or has already applied? I heard mixed reviews about acceptances and was wondering if anyone has some insight.

Thanks!

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I'm retaking the LSAT in February and am looking for someone to meet with a few times to study with and talk through some of the material. I'm located in Waukesha area but am willing to travel to Madison or Milwaukee area, or perhaps other places to meet at least a few times. Please message me if you live in the area. Thanks!

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Wednesday, Jan 14, 2015

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If and only if

For statements with if and only if, does it matter which variable I write first?

Example: V is selected if and only if P is selected

the if and only if here is referring to P so the solutions in the book show

P (--) V

not V (--) not P

but if I wrote it out as

V (--) P

not P (--) not V

Would that be correct since this is a biconditional statement? if past would make P sufficient condition and the only if part would make P the necessary condition. Am I thinking of this correctly?

Also, can I think of biconditionals as implying that the two variable must always go together meaning that PV will always be together in the "in" group or in the "out" group. There is never a possibilities where one variable is in and the other is out. So, I could show them as a block in my diagram.

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Hello all,

I have been intensely looking at the LG explanations for every game since the first LSAT until the most recent one. Is this the best approach to take to get a perfect score on the real test? I feel the upcoming test will largely be just different variables for the same type of game? I really enjoy the explanations that J.Y. gives

Also, I have been looking for Study Guides for the LR and RC. I incorporated the Reading Comp Memorization Method and that seems to be useful. I am trying to improve with LR and I listened to all video explanations for the June 2007 LSAT. Can anyone supply me with these study guides and any advice to improve in LR??

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Hi 7Sage! I love this forum, sorry to pester you all again with walls of text.

Background: I started studying the June 2007 test. I did well on the RC/LR sections but only got halfway through the second game of the LG section before I hit 35 minutes. I think I got three wrong so ended up 6/23 for the section. Since then my entire focus has been on logic games. I've probably printed out some 40 games and completed them under timed conditions, and I've read the entire Powerscore LG Bible. I still can't complete 4 games in 35 minutes consistently. It's easily my weakest section despite putting all my focus on it.

I knew there was no chance I could study for the February exam with school going on so I decided to take last December's while I was traveling so I could see where I was at. I missed an entire game on the LG section (filled in all Ds for it so I might have gotten me a point or two) and scored a 166.

Since then I've taken 4 timed PTs and scored very well when I complete the LG section in time (172, 175) and worse when I don't (166, 167). Generally I lose very little on RC/LR (they're about equal losses for me) and that hasn't really changed since I started taking tests. That said I think the only way I'm getting accepted into a decent law school in Canada with my abysmal GPA (the program I'm in is terrible for GPA but that's another story) is with a T14 level LSAT. So I know that in all likelihood if continual drilling of LG sections is not improving my speed anymore I really need to be able to count on a -0/1/2 for each of the other three sections.

BUT I also know that reading about LGs dramatically changed how I approach them and how I think about them. In some ways it's good, in some ways I think it's actually slowed me down (surely a lot of my improvement can be chalked down to repetition). I am very nervous about studying RC/LR extensively only to destroy some innate logic I've developed before the LSAT or to slow down my reasoning as I usually finish those sections with 1-2 minutes. I'm also worried of making my logic formulaic (as stupid as that might sound), because the way I approach RC/LR right now feels pretty organic, and the way I do LG feels totally formulaic.

Of the questions I've gotten wrong, no type stands out. The only similarity between them is that they were all 4/5 star difficulty questions, but I have no types of question to drill/learn about specifically. So for anyone who has been at the point where they average -3/-5 or something like that on LR/RC and wanted to take that down to consistent -0/-2 did you manage it? And how did you go about doing it? Or if anyone found LR/RC came naturally to them did you find studying those sections specifically was actually detrimental? And if anyone thinks it's worth studying LR/RC, what would you say I should start with material wise? As for LG, is there any better speed improving strategy than to drill?

Sorry this is so long or if it all comes off as paranoid. I'm just feeling a little nervous after talking to schools and finding out the level of score I'll have to get to be accepted anywhere decent and am kind of lost on how to move forwards from here.

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Is anyone in the Edmonton, Alberta, Canada region?

I'm taking the October 2015 test (retake) and I'll be looking for some study buddies on the weekends! Let me know :) you can respond or e-mail me at harrismegan@live.ca.

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Hey y'all, is anyone in Philly looking to study together/create a study group? I'm planning on taking the June 2015 exam, I've been studying for about 3 months with the LSAT Trainer and just started the 7sage program. I am happy to share the Trainer and compare methods. Let me know if you are in the area and want to meet up and study/review/discuss either the test in general or specific questions and PTs. Good luck to everyone!

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Okay guys, this is pretty much my dumb down version of explaining some formal logic based on my knowledge. I believe this is something that needs to be really understood in order to improve in logic games.

Example 1:

If A-> Not B

If B-> Not A -------> That implies that

*A can be alone

*B can be alone

*Both can be absent ( BUT YOU CAN NOT HAVE BOTH A AND B SELECTED!)

Example 2:

If Not A -> B

If Not B ->A ----------> That implies that

*If A is out, then B is in

*If B is out, then A is in

*Or both A and B can be in

THEY BOTH CAN NEVER BE ABSENT!!

Example 3:

If not A ->not B

If B ->A ------------> That implies that

* Both CAN be absent

*Both CAN be present

*A CAN be by itself

* B CANNOT! I REPEAT CANNOT be Alone!!!

Excuse the caps, the emphasis helps me remember haha...Please make any changes if I am wrong. But this is what I came across. When I finally had this written down, it made so much more sense to me.

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If you plan on taking the lsat Oct. 3rd and you are located in Los Angeles, CA you should join my summer study group. We plan to meet at USC or UCLA. For dates, times and other information please email me at davidson0425@gmail.com. We also have a shared lsat dropbox folder.

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Hi all, I'm looking for a Skype study buddy that's already consistently scoring a 168+. My scores fluctuate from 166-168, but I was hoping someone with a higher score might be willing to be my study buddy to help me work through some of the tougher RC/LR questions and help get me to the next level and score higher. I know explaining/thinking through questions with someone else helps, so hopefully it'd be beneficial to both of us.

I'm planning on taking the June LSAT (Sept/October at the latest) and was hoping for a Skype chat like once a week on the weekends starting sometime this month, since I'm moving on to solely taking PTs (rather than reviewing course material) starting with PT 44. If anyone is willing, I'd be eternally grateful!! PM me if interested.

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Hey guys thought we could start a list of different/unique ways we've seen this common flaw described in the answer choices. These flaws are so easy to spot sometimes the challenge is wading through how the answer choice obscurely describes them. One that I came across for the first time was the following:

the conditional statement was

A-->B

B

therefore A

the correct answer choice was worded: fails to consider that there are conditions necessary for A in addition to the presence of B

If you guys have any others, please share!

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone knew of some legal studies or law related masters programs/certificate programs off the top of their heads? Since I'm writing the LSAT in June now and won't be able have my score added to my applications for this year, I'm looking for something to do during the year instead of just waiting around for my acceptances to come. I've got a really great resume with some awesome extracurriculars and work experience already. I would highly prefer for the program to be in a distance studies format (online)! Any suggestions would be more than appreciated.

So far all I've come up with is this: http://www.extension.harvard.edu/degrees-programs/master-liberal-arts/fields-concentration/legal-studies

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