Hey everyone, so I wrote my first ever LSAT in November and I am pretty happy with my score. My first diagnostic was a 141 and now on the November Flex Exam I scored a 163. What I was hoping for some opinions on is my next move from here. Currently, I am signed up for the January flex exam (I signed up immediately after writing the November exam in a somewhat state of panic lol). I am happy with my score as it lands me in a good spot with the schools I have applied to (I am a Canadian student), and my GPA for my last 20 is also pretty good (3.695/4.0). I am torn on whether I should keep going with the January flex or withdraw. My average scores for my prep tests leading up to the exam ranged from the mid to high 150's to mid 160's, which is why I feel happy with my performance on exam day and feeling a little uneasy about whether I will be able to improve upon my initial score of 163.

Let me know what you guys think, I don't have many resources or people to draw from so I am interested in what the 7sage community has to say!

Thanks :)

The lsac website says tbd - week of the 14th. Can you assume you will be testing on Saturday the 14th or Sunday the 15th? When will the official date come out?

After studying for approximately 3 months, I scored a 163 in June. At the time I was PT’ing at about 164. In August, I scored a 163 after PT’ing at about 169. My PT high was a 170. Last weekend I scored a PT high of 173. I feel as though I was significantly better at the test in August and there were no extraordinary circumstances — albeit two difficult RCs.

I plan on taking the October LSAT. My contention is that it would be difficult for me to afford a pricy tutor. I have an LSAC fee waiver, so if there are any tutors who offer discounted services, I would be very interested in working with them.

Hi! My name is Ken. I recently started studying for the LSAT again. I am wondering if anyone wants to do it together. I used to have a score of around 170s and can meet at Gangnam on weekdays preferably somewhere from 10 am-3 pm. Please let me know!

I interviewed with UVA a little over 2 weeks ago. It went well and they told me they'd get back to me "very soon." I've heard most people who are accepted to UVA get a phone call no more than a few days after the interview but I haven't heard anything. Really stressed over this... UVA is my top choice. Any words of wisdom?

Any Tips on getting better at LR. I'm not doing so great on this section of the test and need help. This section is keeping me from my target score.

Hi,

For those who have used Manhattan Prep RC, could anyone direct me on how to find out which PTs they use through out the book? I'm looking at the book and I don't see any indices of works used. This would be very helpful because I don't want any book to ruin certain PTs for me.

Thanks

Hi,

So I can see why C is definitely a better answer choice than all the rest. However, I find myself confused by the fact that I am not sure how we can tell that the author thinks that doctrine of precedent is a "useful tool" here. Can anyone #help me with this?

Thanks!

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Doesn’t the right answer [E] confuse necessary for sufficient?! Maria satisfies both of the necessary conditions but that doesn’t make the sufficient condition (being eligible) trigger. If we can't conclude that she's eligible JUST from satisfying the two necessary conditions, then how can we say that she should be granted leave? I thought that was the "oldest mistake in the book." Here's how I diagrammed:

Eligible for leave -> applied at least three months before leave period starts and have one year of paid employment

Eligible for leave -> granted leave

Hello,

When answering principle questions, we want an answer that obviously doesn't violate the stimulusm, and conforms most to the text.

Is too general an answer choice bad? And in using certain words (specifically the medical advance question in the PT 40s) , can we assume that two words can mean different things or that one word can be more inclusive and cast a wider net than the way it is used in the stimulus?

So one question said that medical tests are advancing so that we can detect diseases early, but most of these diseases aren't curable yet by medicine. Then it raises an ethical dilemma.

Now the answer choice I put is "the more we learn, the more you realize how little we know".

The correct answer choice was "advances in medicine can raise ethical concerns".

If we assume that advances in medical technology/tests constitutes an advance in medicine then I understand it. But it states that we can't cure them using current medicines so can we really say medicine advanced?

It was too uncertain to me so I went with the wrong answer, the more general one. Or maybe there is another mistake in what I chose.

Thanks and GL studying !

Any tips on Specific Reference RC questions? These are consistently the only questions I miss when doing RC passages and if I can improve my efficiency on these I'll see really solid improvement on my RC section scores. I've been reading passages from my monitor while notating on scratch paper to accommodate for the Flex but I recall seeing that Specific Reference questions will be different in some way on the Flex but don't quite recall how. Thoughts?

Hope this helps others:

#1. Weakening (Except)

○ I assumed that the correct answer choice (which would need to be the one that did not

weaken the argument) needed to be one that strengthened the argument. In reality,

something that is neutral suffices as something that does not weaken

#2. Flaw

○ I failed to realize that words like (to) promote, elevate, develop, forward, advance, stimulate,

assist, foster, boost, catalyze, nurture and encourage are NOT synonyms for sufficient nor

necessary.

○ Instead of choosing the answer choice that attacks the argument, I chose the answer choice that

merely validated the opposing argument. Just because an argument is true that does not mean its

opposite is false.

○ I failed to realize that the correct answer choice was subtle which lead me to choose the best

incorrect answer choice since it appeared to say what the correct answer choice is saying.

#3. Main Conclusion

○ I chose the context and/or intro statement instead of the conclusion

#4. NA

○ I skimmed the stimulus

○ I did not choose the correct answer because it was a pretty strong statement which the correct NA

answer choice usually is not. Sometimes the NA is strong.

○ I did not see how the correct answer choice helped to connect everything up. Focused way too much

on looking for those ACs that when negated, destroy the argument. I did this at the expense of

looking for those ACs that when negated burn down the bridge formed by the correct AC.

○ I failed to correctly identify what the implication would be if the assumption inherent in the

correct answer choice was reversed.

○ I failed to focus on the conclusion and instead mistakenly focused on the premise/support that is

integral to the conclusion

○ I assumed that the correct answer choice would need to, when negated, be able to destroy the

argument but it merely needs to make the argument irrelevant.

#5. Parallel Flaw

○ I failed to ensure that all of the elements of the flawed argument I chose amongst the answer

choices aligned with all of the elements of the stimulus' flawed argument including modifiers such

as "safely" or "obviously conclude" versus "must conclude".

○ Sometimes does not mean some

#6. Strengthening

○ Only appears to be strong but does nothing to strengthen the argument

For anyone who doesn't have access to an appropriate device and needed the LSAC to send you their tablet loaner to take the FLEX, did you have any problems with it? Did it come with a charger, keyboard, etc? Any thoughts on the experience overall?

Hello,

Can anyone provide me feedback on my DS? I am also willing to do a timely exchange with you!

Thank you :)

Hey all,

Hoping for #Help, does anyone have a comprehensive list of rules on how to translate words into Lawgic? Like, every single indicator word I will see, the group its in and the rules, exceptions, bi-conditionals, all of that jazz, I totally understand how lawgic works once translated into abbreviated form, but, I seem to really struggle with translating it quickly enough and I am really unsure of myself which makes me freeze up, I am willing through most questions with intuition and doing quite well, but, the lists to help with translation that I have seen aren't exactly comprehensive, hoping someone who is as analytical as I am has gone to some lengths to make a more exhaustive list of words/rules and would be willing to share.

Hi all,

One of my colleagues at work taught law school (at a school I don't plan on applying to) and can connect me with a professor at a school I do want to apply to (Georgetown). My instinct is that my colleague is a better choice since she knows my work better but should I ask that she incorporate that she taught law in her letter? Would it matter? Should I try to get a letter from both?

help can someone please explain why H isn't in 2 for this question?

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I know that it's not recommended to include "relevant coursework" on your resume, but I have taken 2 law courses through my masters program. Should I include these in my education section on my resume?

Will the LSAT continue to be online? I read somewhere that it would be through June 2022, but was wondering for after this timeframe?

Hi people, I am looking for a study buddy, it's my first time here.

It would be great if you are also aiming at high 160s, or even 170. Even better if you are good at RC / LR.

My strength would be LG sequencing, we can exchange our views and approaches.

I live in Hong Kong, just in case you're from a different time zone.

Please comment down here and I will shoot you a message :)))

Does anyone have suggestions for the best place to actually take an LSAT Flex? I am schedule to take the exam in August (guessing it will probably be a Flex), but absolutely cannot do this in my house as there are way too many distractions. I was thinking about getting a hotel room. Would love to hear what others have done in June - or are planning to do in July.

My test got terminated right before the last section as I was accused of cheating. They stated multiple reasons

Someone rang my doorbell 3 times during the beginning of Section 2 and then left, I went out during my break to get the letter they left behind and let my cat inside. They then accused me of talking to someone at the door, I promptly explained what happened and then they said:

I went to the bathroom twice, once during section 1 and once during section 3, and they said that was not permitted. I went to the bathroom 4 times during the June Flex exam and wasn't given any problems. I pee a lot when nervous lol. And when I asked why they didn’t say that they first time they said they allowed me to break the rules the first time and let it slide.

I'm just beyond frustrated........ after being on the phone with LSAC, then proctorU, then LSAC, LSAC told me I should consider myself lucky that they're even letting me rewrite Oct 21..... Feeling a tad deflated but what can ya do... just sharing my grievances with you guys.

For those of you who have closed a large BR gap. How did you do it? currently scoring around 157 timed and BR around 164/165. I obviously need to do more PTs. Would love to score at my BR level lol. Generally feel like under timed, my brain doesn't catch on as quickly and effectively. I'm starting to recognize some patterns here and there in LR and RC. Questions 1-18 on LR, I can do them fairly easily (though not with perfect accuracy, again my brain just doesn't register as quickly under timed, but when I'm BR-ing, i'm like how did i miss that). It's the questions near the end, they just really eat me up. Tips welcomed!

Also any tips on improving RC?

Looking for any success stories/general tips as a guide. Thanks!

Actual:

LR: -8 to -10 per section

RC -9

LG -5 to -7

BR:

LR -5 to -7 per section

RC -5

LG -1 to perfect

I took the lsat a few months ago and was stumped by what should’ve been an easy game. I know I spotted a similar type when I studied it last year, but I can’t find it for the life of me rn even though I’ve scoured 90 games.

It’s a variation on a one layer sequencing game with variable blocks.

So imagine rule 1 is sth like A is either immediately in front of B or C bnb. Which is pretty simple and straightforward. But then the rest of the rules are basically a similar series of 2-3 other “either or, bnb” variable blocks, which is where it can get confusing. I just know I got super confused and stumped navigating this and would like to find the similar game I recalled so I can familiarize myself with the format.

I always find it tough to intuitively decide whether to do a general map and let it be question driven vs solve for all gameboards. often when I get confused by a question I freak out and then end up trying to solve for all gameboards late into the game, eating up time. Can anyone point me to similar games?

#help

why is answer choice C wrong?

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