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Hey guys,

i need some advice, im kinda in a pickle and over thinking so posting my thoughts here. Im currently 24 - working full time as legal assistant started studying for the LSAT this summer and im scheduled to take the Nov 2023 exam. this will be my first exam. I'm feeling okay about everything but nervous that i'll do bad and have to retake in Jan. I wanted to apply for 2024 cycle but im scared that If i do need to retake in Jan that it will either be me rushing to submit apps in for the 2024 cycle OR i'll still need to improve my LSAT score. I'm currently PTing 1 x week in lower 149-151 range rn & have a 3.7 gpa (calculated on LSAC). a) Should i still have my apps in before Jan, even if i retake in Jan OR; b) should i hold off apps and sumbit super early next fall for the 2025 cycle, once i feel more confident getting a better LSAT score? If i do wait I would still want to take the LSAT before the august change.

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Last comment friday, oct 20 2023

Same LSAT Score

Hi everyone!

I am needing a little motivation and help. I keep taking timed exams but my scores are not increasing. I am taking my exam in January and I know I still have time to improve but it has just been really discouraging. Any tips on what I should do? Thanks!

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Hi everyone! I'm wondering what folks' perspectives/ advice would be on talking about highschool extracurricular involvement within a personal statement (Part B of a two-part personal essay).

For context, I live in Canada and all schools in the province that I live in use one standardized application form. The form specifically instructs applicants to only list post-'high-school' involvement, work experience, etc. This question relates to one school in particular that I'm applying to, which has two parts to their personal essays section; Part A is open-ended and I spoke only about broader lived experience and University involvement, my vision for law school, all the basics (no specifics about highschool), and Part B, which has various question prompts, the one that I'm leaning most towards answering is, "Discuss a challenging ethical issue or a serious interpersonal conflict that you have encountered and explain how you resolved it".

The specific experience I want to talk about (being as vague as possible here) is what I learned being a student representative at the board-level during my senior year and the ethical dilemma I encountered when the board was considering a motion regarding school policies that did not align with my own views of equity/ justice and I faced public backlash from other (adult) board members for voicing the opinion of the many student constituents that I represented on the issue. I don't think this is a controversial topic but I would still frame the topic as neutrally as possible to avoid bias from the application selections committee.

Thanks for reading and any input/ advice anyone may have and best of luck to fellow November LSAT takers :)

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official October 2023 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the October 2023 LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, October 17th.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

Some examples of typical comments:

The following comments are okay 🙆‍♀️

  • the section on Cambodian woodworking really had me second guessing everything.
  • a few of the games had me confused but think I was okay.
  • overall fair test, struggled on a couple of RC passages (damn you polymorphic molecules) but think I was okay hoping for a -2 or -3
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  • the passage on Cambodian woodworking didn’t count.
  • I had Cambodian woodworking, Fireflies, and rice farming in Iowa so Lithuanian Lithograph Libraries was experimental.
  • fair test but struggled on a couple RC passages (polymorphic molecules anyone? Thankfully it didn’t count). Don’t want to take again in June
  • Anyone know if Polygamist Societies in the 1880s was real or experimental?
  • Please tell me that polygon dice game didn’t count
  • Good luck to everyone taking the October 2023 LSAT!

    **Please keep all discussions of the October 2023 LSAT here!**(/red)

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    Hello!

    I took the LSAT around four years ago and failed miserably. I didn't prepare at all and didn't comprehend the exam's format, therefore I got a 139.

    I had two interviews with top-20 institutions but was not accepted.

    After that, I concentrated on working as a teacher while also producing music.

    I was able to become a professional in the music industry that produced for celebrities, a big TV show, and a song that garnered over a million views in just a few weeks while trending on YouTube, among other things.

    I am likely to have a different resume/experience than many other law school applicants, which I hope will help me.

    With my LSAT and new experiences, do I have a chance of getting admitted anywhere?

    I am a URM with a GPA of 3.5. I also have a 3.7 GPA in an unfinished computer science degree (few semesters left).

    Aside from perhaps retaking the LSAT, I would appreciate any criticism or suggestions on what I should do.

    Thank you very much.

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    I submitted my application to William & Mary today, however, I just realized that I made a small mistake in my "Why William & Mary Law" essay. I referred to Williamsburg as being a "highly-populated" and "thriving" city, even though it only has about 15,000 people... I went there for undergrad and somehow misremembered it as having more people than it really does. Anyway, it's a small yet noticeable mistake. Should I resend my essay?

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    I have taken the LSAT once in June 2023 with a very bad score and very minimal preparation, but I am planning on taking the LSAT again in Jan of 2024 after excessive studying. With this, will I be able to get into law school starting in Fall 2024?

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    I have recently started taking prep tests to gear up for the November exam and I am wondering what method people have used to ensure that they have a good feel for the old/recent tests. Is it advised to skip around, start from old to new, or from new to old? Also, is taking 3/4 sections worth it? Or do you guys feel as if it has helped taking all 4 even though one of them is unscored?

    Thanks!

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    PrepTest A - Section 1 - Question 21

    I dont understand this question. I thought the flaw was making a generalization about one characteristic and placing the characteristic as a whole. Why isnt that right

    Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question."

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    Can someone provide some insight into why answer choice A is correct. I chose D because I identified the conflicting events/occurences to be the steadily increasing proportion of left-handers in newer generations despite the fact that overall-lefthandeness has remained constant.

    The only answer that solved this for me was a decreasing birth rate. If less people are being born then despite there being a greater percentage of left handers in younger generations, for example as the question states 20% among 20 year olds and 10 % among fifty year olds, these greater proportions could still actually be equal to past proportions if the amount of 20 year olds born was smaller than the amount of fifty year olds born due to that decreasing birth rate. So the trend of constant overall and growing proportion in younger generations still works.

    What I can see that would make this wrong is that is says a gradually decreasing birth rate, but if we are talking about 80 years, then idk how to gauge what would be considered gradual in that amount of time.

    As for answer A, I am not seeing the resolution. I may be too built into my own answer, so anybody else please I would be happy to hear your perspectives.

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 18 2023

    Jan 2024 Study Group

    Hello,

    Trying this again as I have found new motivation to study for the LSAT. Please reach out to me if you would like to study together!!!!

    I am currently scoring: 165-170 (Official take October 2022 was 165).

    Goal score: 173+ (hoping to be a splitter!)

    I plan to take in Jan 2024, but willing to push back until I am consistently scoring in the range that I want.

    Location: Virtual but I would also be down to meet if you are in the DFW area.

    I am in Central time zone. I have a 9-5, so would have to meet either early morning before work (7:30ish) or after work (6pm or later). Currently I am putting in about 1-3 hrs per day except Friday, a PT on Sunday.

    What I need help with: Logic Games is my weakest section. I used to be somewhat decent at it before I basically stopped studying in January of this year.

    What I can (potentially) help you with: RC and LR are my strongest sections. I have been getting -2/3 on the last RC PTs I have been taking, -4 or less for LR.

    I do not have a real preference for what your current score is, but 158+ would be ideal. I do learn a lot by working with/teaching others so it is not a hard limit!

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 18 2023

    Anger at score plateau

    Hi everyone, I am feeling so incredibly infuriated with my current score plateau and I can't seem to be improving. I have read that score plateaus are very common but how does one break through? Ive tried powering through, taking breaks for a few days but the score will not change no matter what I do. My BR scores are decent but I just find myself getting so frustrated and actually angry at this point.

    Anya advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 18 2023

    LR/RC Help

    Hi all (:

    I'm now finally scoring above my goal score on BR and have gotten to the point where I think I can consistently score in the range I'd want as my real test score- but ONLY on blind review. I'm still a few points under on my timed PTs. This shows me that I'm capable of scoring what I want but I feel like my main issue is speed, as I usually run out of time for the last few questions on LR ~1-3 (0 if I'm lucky lol) and RC I usually end up skimming the last passage and don't have enough time for notes. ): I'd appreciate any tips anyone might have on just getting faster? Like any drills/methods you use?

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    Hi everyone, I know this has been mentioned before and I even commented on a post about this but is it normal to score better on one of the 2 LR sections every time on PTs? I consistently get around -5 for the first section and -8 on the second. Is the second section generally harder or is it perhaps fatigue?

    Also am I right in assuming that the experimental section on the real test isn't guaranteed to be LR? At this point I am kind of hoping two LG section come up as they are actually kind of fun. Still making small stupid mistakes on them but hoping I get more accurate with more practice.

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 18 2023

    Does work experience matter

    I been struggling to find a job and I been out of work for almost a year. Due to this will this hinder me from getting into law school even if my lsat and gpa is good? or will other factors play a role such as past jobs, extracurricular activities, personal statement, internship etc? Cause someone told me I wont get into a law school if I dont have a job :(

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    For this question I am a little confused. In one of the videos, JY mentioned that a right answer for PSA questions should end at the same place that the principle does. In this question, the correct answer says that "Toril did not act responsibly." The conclusion of the stimulus is that one is acting responsibly. Is it possible for the right answer to have a different conclusion from the stimulus? Do other right answers work with contrapositives?

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    Hi!

    According to your explanation video, the tutor said the cause here is 'technologically superior' and the effect is 'lower infant mortality' but i still can't understand why.

    What I thought is the reversed version of that. The cause is 'lower infant mortality' and the effect is 'tech superior'.

    And answer choice (A) suggests that the cause can be actually the effect of the other cause, which breaks the causal relationship between 'lower infant mortality' and 'tech superior.' So basically (A) is saying the cause is 'broader access' and the effect is 'tech superior.'

    Is my thought process ok to use?

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