Hey all!

My name is Jeff, a tutor at 7Sage and recently added moderator of the 7Sage Official Discord Server!

Come meet and study with actual human beings! Join here: https://discord.gg/jk8vCHVy

Right now we have a November study group in the Discord server that also meets twice weekly led by our amazing tutor Bailey! They meet on Zoom Tue/Thu at 8:30PM - 9:30PM EDT! It's free to join and you can see the Zoom link posted every week under EVENTS (top left of the Discord) or on the 7Sage site "Live Class." Join the conversation in ⁠#nov-study-group in the Discord server.

As well, I will also be actively moderating and answering questions in the Discord server and assisting students with their studying, so if you want direct access to a 7Sage tutor, come join the conversation!

I just took the LSAT writing sample. I used every second. When the clock struck 0, I was taken to a page that said something like "Oops, error. Try reloading the page or talk to us in the chat". My videocamera and screen continued to be recorded. I chatted with a proctor and he said the close will tab. I'm still worried it didn't get submitted...... Has this happened to anyone else? How do I check to see if it got submitted?

Hey! So I just took the LSAT Writing through ProctorU and didn't understand when exactly to complete the initial room scan. I ended up submitting the scan checklist, realizing there was no option to "start scan now", and completed a room scan before actually initiating the exam. I also got disconnected from Wifi a few minutes in, where I successfully reconnected and completed the room scan correctly the second time, but will this cause problems for my sample getting approved?

I feel very stuck. I've managed to nearly perfect my LG and I've never struggled much with RC, but for some reason I can't seem to get over this hurdle with improving my LR. Whenever I get one wrong, I watch the video explanation on it. Sometimes it makes sense, and sometimes I feel completely and utterly lost no matter how many times I rewatch it.

I know some people are going to tell me to drill my fundamentals until my brain hurts, and I do, but so many questions still make absolutely no sense to me. It's not even a specific section I struggle on, it's just... all of it.

Does anyone else feel this way? What do I do about it? Advice?

Edit: Whenever I look at another RC or LR question, I feel sick. I actually enjoy doing LG and find myself doing some just for the enjoyment of it, but RC and LR... the mere idea of reading another stupid paragraph about some trivial crap is making me want to run a railroad spike through my skull.

I been struggling to find a job and I been out of work for almost a year. Due to this will this hinder me from getting into law school even if my lsat and gpa is good? or will other factors play a role such as past jobs, extracurricular activities, personal statement, internship etc? Cause someone told me I wont get into a law school if I dont have a job :(

I'm on the West Coast looking for a small group to study with online. I'm in the high 150s trying to break into the 160s. I have mostly been drilling LG......

What the title says. I want to become better and faster at LG Inferences. I took a prep test (got a great score increase!) but I was only able to do two logic games. It took me sooooo long to get through those two games because I overthink too much and also I think about the inferences later while I am reading the questions instead of when I am drawing my game board. If I am being honest, If I can do at least three out of four games during the test I would be satisfied, I do not know if I can break 4 games fast enough before November ( but please tell me your tips, I am all ears and ready to put it all to practice to get this done!!!)

My situation: I have signed up for the October and November LSAT and plan to apply for this round. The thing is that I just decided to apply to law school this June, so I do not have much time to prepare for the LSAT and take the test. I have great Anxiety and only got accommodation 50% more time for the November test (I missed the deadline to apply for October. In my PT, I am now around 164 for normal timed tests, but because I constantly get distracted by my anxiety, if under the accommodation time, I am around 172. My parents and friends all suggested I take the test in October, just not put all chance into one test, but I am afraid my anxiety will make a mess in October, making it even below 160s. I am concerned some law school admission boards would concerned about score gaps if I got a better score in November. I actually took the LSAT in August, which was definitely a disaster because of my anxiety. It turns out to be 151. I am just afraid that the nightmare will happen again in October without accommodation. With more resting time and extended time, things definitely felt better from my end. But, all the people around me suggested I should take the October test. What would you recommend? I think the main concern for me is the score jumping if I messed up in October, or if I take then canceled will the admission board think that is a terrible grade and still consider it be a score jumping.

Hey everyone!

LSAC has provided final instructions for the October 2023 LSAT that can help you ensure that you're ready for test day.

◉Students testing remotely:

Before your test session, make sure to log into your LSAC LawHub account with your LSAC username and password to confirm they are correct. Look for a new "LSAT" option in the left-hand menu of your account, which should indicate your eligibility for the October 2023 LSAT. If you do not see this option, contact LSAC immediately through their chat feature on the LSAT Website, email LSACinfo@LSAC.org with "OCTOBER 2023 LSAT ISSUE" in the subject line, or call 1-800-336-3982 during business hours.

IMPORTANT: If you are using macOS to take the October 2023 LSAT remotely, do not download the new macOS Sonoma 14 update. This update is not compatible with the Prometric secure browser. You are strongly advised against downloading the macOS update prior to taking your October 2023 LSAT. Read more about this, and what to do if you’ve already updated, in our recent blog post.

Make sure to download and install the ProProctor application at least 48 hours before your test. If you are using a work or school computer, ensure that you have administrator rights to download the necessary software. If not, consider using a different computer.

Check your system readiness: Before test day, be sure to follow the instructions provided in the Prometric ProProctor portal and perform an enhanced system check to ensure your computer is compatible with the ProProctor application. Additionally, you can watch this short video prepared by Prometric to familiarize yourself with what to expect on the day of the test.

On test day, ensure that you start your test session punctually, as failure to do so may lead to cancellation. To guarantee a seamless testing experience, follow the checklist provided for remote test-takers. If any issues arise during the startup process, utilize the chat feature in the ProProctor interface to seek assistance from Prometric or ask your proctor for help.

◉Students testing at a Prometric test center:

It is important to arrive at the test center 30 minutes before your scheduled test session. This will allow time for you to complete your check-in process and start your test at the time you scheduled. Failure to arrive on time may result in a test cancellation. To ensure a smooth testing experience, follow the checklist for in-person test takers and watch the video provided by Prometric for guidance on the check-in process and what to expect at the test center.

◉General preparation and reminders summary

• The Candidate Agreement prohibits discussing the test content on social media and using a cell phone during the test.

• It is recommended to familiarize oneself with the LSAT format using the free practice tests on LSAC's LawHub.

• The LSAT consists of four sections, including a 10-minute intermission between the second and third sections.

• Familiarize yourself with the rules for the intermission. Failure to follow these guidelines will result in a cancellation of your test.

• In case of significant issues preventing completion or affecting performance on the test, use the online form that will be available in your LSAC account to report them.

To assist October test takers with any test-related problems, LSAC has created exclusive phone lines with the numbers 215-966-6640 and 1-855-296-7479. However, it's important to remember that these numbers will only be available and staffed during the testing days, at specific times.

• Friday, October 13 – 8 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. ET

•Saturday, October 14 – 12 midnight to 9 p.m. ET

• Sunday, October 15 – 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. ET

• Monday, October 16 – 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. E

Outside of these testing hours, please call 1-800-336-3982 if you need assistance.

LSAT Writing: All test takers must have a completed and approved LSAT Writing sample on file to receive the score on November 1 or have it released to law schools. The sample must be completed through the provided online link in their LSAC account. LSAT Writing for the October test is now open. If test takers already have an LSAT Writing sample on file from a previous test, they do not need to submit a new one.

Hi everyone, I am taking the LSAT in November and have decided to skip PT 60's and 70's in favor of doing more recent tests. Am I going crazy or are the PT80s considerably harder than the others? Even in BR, I initially was getting in the low 170's but now I seem to be BRing in the low to mid 160s! It has definitely made me nervous and I feel a little burned out so perhaps I'll take a few days off after review.

Just wanted to get everyones opinions and any advice would be great!

Also I have been working on my timing and not getting freaked out during the test, especially when coming across very difficult questions, misc LGs or challenging RC passages like the ones in PT85.

Can someone explain to me why B is the correct answer?

I remember reading somewhere that you should show the door in the background of your camera when testing remotely so that the proctor could see it. However, my desk is currently located not in such a position, and I was wondering if previous test takers experienced proctors actually checking that? thank you in advance!! :)

Greetings, 7Sagers!

On Thursday, October 26 at 8pm ET, join 7Sage admissions consultant Tajira McCoy for another panel discussion with law school admissions deans from across the country. For this conversation, hear from representatives of Boston College, Catholic University, Howard University, Loyola University Chicago, Loyola Los Angeles, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and potentially others TBD, as they weigh in on strategizing optional statements and addenda. The audience will be able to submit questions on this topic throughout the session.

Registration link: https://7sage.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_pkqB8CRHQeycYOW9xssCOw#/registration

Note: If you are unable to attend, these sessions are recorded and later added to our podcast after being edited for sound quality.

In logic games im getting a bit confused. When are two items always apart?

for example is the always apart

/j --> k

or is it

j --> /k

or is it both? I've seen JY put a place holder in many in/out games saying these two are always apart but when do you know exactly they're always apart?

Hi,

When I received an email from LSAC that Sanoma will not be compatible, I emailed them right away asking if Big Sur will be supported. I just got a reply that they only know that Sanoma will not be compatible.

As always, LSAC really doesn't help. My August exam had been a huge nightmare, so I'm already very nervous that things may not turn out well at some point in the test procedure.

Does anyone know if Big Sur is compatible with Prometric system? Is there any way I can confirm that?

Hi, I'm having trouble with this passage's last question, which discusses what statement is more likely to be made by a member of Third Party, rather than the Popular Front. I chose C because I think the Third Party focused more on racial issues for African Americans, rather than the Popular Front's retreats on attacks from White Chauvinism. I'd like to know why B, considering that it is more general and less racially focused, would be more in line with the Third Party rather than the Popular Front, who seem more broad and general. My only possible answer is that the Third Party is less appealing to moderates, and the AC B really doesn't appeal to them. But, this does not inform me of why AC C is wrong.

Hi!

The premise for PT61 S4 Q24 says "Most long-term friendships begin because someone felt comfortable approaching a stranger."

I am a bit confused as how to map this out but I think I have an idea.

I initially thought the word "because" would make the idea following the word "because" become on the right side when put into lawgic form:

felt comfortable approaching stranger -> long-term friendship.

However, is it because of the word "Most" that makes the lawgic form become:

friends -most-> felt comfortable approaching stranger

Am I confusing "because, since, and for", by thinking I am looking for premise and conclusion when I already know what the premise is. In other words, am I mixing causal and conditional logic?

Sorry if this sounds confusing as I am having a hard time trying to explain my confusion. :(

Thank you!!!!

Hello,

I am needing advise from the group. Any input is greatly appreciated, especially those of you who had been in my shoes.

I plan to take the June 2024 LSAT, and apply for law school that fall for 2025 entry. I don’t have a lot of time to study because I am working full time, have a brand new baby, and my wife is super busy with her work (she’s a hospital resident). I can probably devote at most 2 hours a day to study, and many days I don’t’ have that time. That’s really not enough time in my opinion to study especially that I am very new to the test, but I am 30 with more and more obligations at home, I feel like if I want to give law school a shot, it’s gotta be now and not later. (I am not trying to say older people shouldn’t go, I just think for me, it’s time).

We know for sure we will be moving back to the St. Louis area after my wife finishes her residency in June of 2025, so school-wise, I really only have three choices, WUSTL, SLU, and Mizzou (I’d have to live as west of STL as possible and have long commute). I have a less than ideal UGPA (3.16), which means WUSTL is going to be far reach even if I get a 170+. So I am pretty much setting a realistic goal of SLU or Mizzou. I think getting into those two schools should be possible if I can get a LSAT of 155-160. My last three practice tests are 146, 153, and 145.

I have been going through the lessons one by one. But I couldn’t help but feel like, in my situation, perhaps I should instead just stick to doing two practice tests a week, and make sure I diligently complete the blind review, and watch explanation videos on all low/high risk questions. As much as I find the lessons helpful, and it’s a long way till June, with limited time I can devote to studying each day , I feel like the lessons may not be for me.

What do you think? Again, I would really appreciate any feedback at all!

any advice on how to get "high" priority questions correct? I always get low priority questions right, regardless of difficulty level, but struggle with the high ones. Especially in LR

EDIT: As of October 24, LSAC says that Sonoma should now be compatible with Prometric’s servers.

Yesterday, we posted an important heads-up on the 7Sage blog for Mac users who are taking the October or November LSAT remotely. I've pasted the article below:

"For anyone planning to take the October or November LSAT remotely, you need to know about a compatibility issue. Prometric, LSAC’s digital testing provider, currently does NOT support macOS Sonoma, Apple's newest operating system.

If you're considering updating your Mac, hold off and remain on macOS Ventura before your exam.

Double-check your Mac's version in About this Mac. Make sure it reads “Ventura.”

If you’ve already upgraded to Sonoma, you have a few options. The most convenient is to borrow someone else’s computer to take the LSAT. If you can’t borrow a computer, you can use an external SSD as a startup disk and format it to run macOS Ventura. If you’re on an Intel mac, you can also use Bootcamp to install Windows to take the LSAT.

Whether you've opted to use another computer, Bootcamp, or an external drive, you should verify your setup's compatibility using the Prometric Testing tool and LSAC Lawhub.

Best of luck, autumn test-takers!"

Just curious about everyone's habits.

PrepTest B - Section 1 - Question 18

I got trapped in the cookie cutter AC A , misread it. My reasoning was fine, we need to make a subtle assumption that because the intended function of news is to give us information on which to act, news that primarily entertain does not serve its intended function, and thats given to us in AC D

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question."

Currently scoring -8-6 in LR. Would ideally like to get that closer to -5-3 before the November test. I know I’m stretching it, but what would the best way to do that be?

4 to 5 of my wrong questions tend to be at the end of the section 4 or 5 star question. Should I just drill that level of question? Would a tutor make a difference in this short of a time?

Thanks for any help!

Hi guys I am creating a group for those who are going to be applying to ontario law school admissions and if you all want us to edit each others personal statements (blind review) or even to talk about anything admission related lmk i am creating a gc on whataspp but could also be open to ig

I know there is 7sage but I have not tried it yet, are there other ones as well that anyone has used?