PrepTest 7 - Section 1 - Question 19

All the answers seem could be true IDK HOW THE ANSWER IS THE ANSWER??????

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I have no clue how C is correct. Can anyone chime in?

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As the title says - for self-studiers, how do you go about finding a correct answer to a challenging question if you do not have a tutor?

For me, I try to use 7Sage’s explanation videos, but those can still leave me with questions or without clarity, or explanation videos are lacking.

I live in New York

Can someone explain to me why the right answer is the right answer and wher eyou found it in the passage?

hi, I am looking for people to discuss study strategies with and to hold each other accountable for studying. also open to studying together online or in person!

I am based in nyc and looking to take the LSAT for the second time in Feb, 2024.

Hey y'all,

I started taking practice tests about 2-3 weeks ago. For practically all my tests outside of my diagnostic, I've been scoring between 165-168. I spoke with a few of my friends that either attend law school or are working in the field already, and identified a few aspects that I thought would help me score higher, and possibly break the 170 barrier.

With newfound knowledge in mind, I took a test yesterday, and to my surprise, I scored 174! I'm almost certain this is a fluke, though. I don't think one can achieve a 6 point jump and maintain it consistently.

Including my diagnostic, I've only taken 10 tests though, so my sample size is small. Because of that, I don't feel confident I'll know my actual scoring range until I have several more tests under my belt.

My question: For those of you who aimed at and broke past a certain score threshold after plateauing, did you find your scores tend to stay past that threshold? Alternatively, did you find your performance was a fluke and your average scores surpass that goal some time after that first time breaking the threshold?

I'm most definitely not planning on using my most recent score as an excuse to slow things down, but I also want to know how other people in the community "knew" they had gotten over their humps.

Please, no discouraging comments. Honesty and insight though, much appreciated.

Great LOR's, first generation college and law student, 159 LSAT 71% score according to this cycle thus far, 3.66 GPA double major from University of Washington, trilingual, much involvement in leadership / intern opportunities during undergrad, just got placed on hold.

I understand what on hold means - that it is a status not a decision - and that there is ambiguity and patience involved no matter what.

But this really crushed my soul. Standardized tests aren't my greatest strength (not excuse, just context), but I really worked so hard and feel crushed. trying not to lose hope. I'm not one to give up but this was really the worst feeling.

Will take a tour and send a letter of continued interest, but when?

Is it worth taking the LSAT my last time in January to see if I can get above 159? I only have ten days to decide.

I respect and understand the competitive process but wow.

Any insight on UM law, placed on hold but then admitted stats, mental advice / application advise / LSAT guidance,, etc. I moved from the PNW to here for this school a few months ago, it's my dream. I don't want to relinquish that.

Hi! I was wondering if anyone else has had an issue with not being able to print some of the LSAT Preptests. I was able to print 47 and 48, but for some reason 46 won't print. It's very strange! Says there is a printer error, but the other two printed. Any advice?

Bret

Hey everyone!

Wondering if there is anyone that currently has a parent with cancer and is studying for their LSAT? How has studying been? How are you managing both the LSAT and care-taking?

I was originally suppose to take the Nov LSAT and then bumped it to Jan because my father's cancer treatment was a large commitment, he currently has stage 3 skin cancer (don't forget to wear sunscreen everyday y'all). I have a few more days to decide if I still want to do the Jan LSAT or take it in Feb/early next year and apply next cycle (I'm PT'ing around 160-167 timed). I'm 24 right now and I know 26 is not old but I feel a bit pressured to get in next cycle at 25. I worry that I might commit to the Jan LSAT and then my father's cancer might progress which will only lead to more stress and anxiety.

Everyone around me has been nothing but supportive about any decision I make so I'm just looking to get any general advice from people experiencing the same or a similar thing! Thanks everyone and happy studying!!

I have spent half of a year actively studying with 7Sage. I studied for a month in December last year (LR core) and have been consistently studying since May (full-time, 30 hours a week, till August and part time, 5-10 hours, since then). I scored a 144 on a diagnostic test on Khan Academy before 7Sage. My goal score is above a 170.

I did well on my first few practice tests beginning in September. My first PT was a 160 and my second test was a 167 (1 wrong on each of LR and LG, 9 wrong on reading); Dominating LR and LG while flunking reading was the norm for a while (with an all time high score of 168), so I was confident that everything would resolve itself once I aced RC.

Since then, my scores have consistently fallen with my last two tests being a 164 and a low of 162, despite learning the reading portion of the curriculum. The PTs I've done are from the mid 30s to 49, but I've only done about half of those, using the rest for more drilling. One possible explanation is that a few of my PTs were 3 section ones (but not my first 167) and I only recently switched back to 4 section PTs.

I don't think I'm burned out because I feel motivated to study. However, I do think I'm stuck in a cycle of rust because I only have time to do a few hours a week of studying (5-10 hours) due to my job. I either have to choose between reviewing mistakes for a couple sections or timed practice. For example, I brought my RC score down to below 5 consistently for a few section drills, but this investment caused my LG and LR scores to slip due to lack of time to practice these.

I have more time to study this week but long term, what do I do, besides building endurance by doing 4 section PTs? Though my RC score has improved, RC is still my worst section; but I also need work on LR and LG. And within each of these sections, I miss each question type at a similar rate, including a handful of easier questions, so it's not like all my problems are solved by drilling one question or game type.

My initial thought is do more fool-proofing in LG and do more blind review and wrong answer journaling/reviewing in LR. No clue what to do to improve RC though: my performance in that section feels random.

Hi! I'm conflicted right now because I took my LSAT in November and did not get the score I wanted. I am thinking about taking the January and/or Feb LSAT (depending on my practice test scores) but I feel like that is too late in the cycle to apply for Fall 24. Any advice, should I still apply? I already took a gap year and I feel so behind. :(

I just finished the principle reasoning section, and I'm wondering if I should go back and redo the lawgic lessons. I still find myself really struggling with the forms (and wanting to use them when I attempt to answer the questions). Has anyone had the same problem? Or has anyone gone back and redone the lessons?

BTW I plan to take the LSAT for the first time in April

How do you go about annotating and jotting down the summaries without a physical copy.

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📆 My planned test date: January 2024

📈 To study, I have been taking practice tests and using Josh Aldy's Time Management Performance Tracker .

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I work full-time in NYC and I am looking for a accountability/study partner. Please individually message me your email address if you are interested. I will arrange a study group meeting and we can plan from there.

Hello!

I left my job in March 2023 due to a toxic work environment, and because I realized the specific legal field I was working in was not a good fit for me. It is now November, and I am still unemployed. I'm not sure if writing an addendum to explain this would be in my favour or not. I worry that it may be frowned upon that 1) I left a position without having secured another one, and 2) that my reason for leaving is not convincing enough.

I have done a few other things in the meantime, and have been looking for jobs in the field that I am passionate about, but I'm not sure if having any job, even one that I am not particularly passionate about is better than having no full-time job.

Any help/advice would be very appreciated :)

Thank you!

Hello,

I have studying for couple months now but I'm not seeing any improvement with LR. The most I can answer in that section is until question 17th. My score have been constantly 8/17 and 11/17 after BR based on just what I answered. I believe my review hasn't been effective. I do have a wrong answer journal and redo questions sometimes. Sometimes I get them right and sometime I get them wrong again. How can I review LR effectively and improve? Any advice pleasseeeeeeeeeee

Hi there!

I am in search of a study buddy, preferably in the SF Bay Area. My ultimate goal score is a 170 but I would be more than happy to settle for a 165. My average score is 157 with my highest score being a 160 and lowest being a 155. I would love to find someone who has been scoring similarly so that we can hold each other accountable to study and discuss missed questions to reinforce the logic.

A bit about me, I work as a paralegal in immigration law. I plan on pursuing a Masters in Human Rights and Democratization in Europe before starting law school but I want to take the LSAT now since LG is my best section. My dream school is UT Austin and I have already decided to apply ED.

Please let me know if you would be interested in studying together. :)

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Can someone let me if I did this question correctly? don't even know how to think normal anymore

This is a nasty question and I would appreciate it if anyone could let me know if my approach was correct.

For a set of 50 sterilization equipment made of nylon, it requires 3.4x the energy it takes to manufacture.

For stainless steel it requires 2.1 the energy it takes to manufacture

If it requires 100 watts to manufacture nylon, it takes 340 to sterilize the 50 set

If it requires 100 watts manufacture SS, it takes 210 to sterilize a set of 50

A is wrong because it makes a mistake of trying to compare the two. If it takes 200 watts to manufacture SS, the it would require 410 for the set of 50.

B is deadly confusing. I took a nap and came back to it. If it takes 340 to sterilize a set of 50, the it takes 6.8 watts for each complete sterilization (340/50 = 6.8). If I'm still sticking with 100 watts as a requisite to manufacture my nylon instruments, with an s, there it no way it requires more energy for each complete sterilization that it requires to manufacture the nylon instruments, with an s.

C. I don't even know why this is wrong. I was thinking this has to be false because the stimulus tells us it's 50.

D. This could be true because either one could require more energy.

E. Nobody mentioned cost. It felt good to call an answer "out of scope." Felt like I'm finally speaking LSAT language.

Can someone help me if my think on B is on track. Also, how do I eliminate C

Feel like many people are also in the same boat- I have also heard that this cycle's admissions has been extremely slow so I am wondering if applying later would hurt my chances. I think I landed mid 160s for November LSAT but I truly think I could get a 170 if I write in Jan. Thoughts?

How have you guys improved your logical reasoning sections what has worked I can't seem to get above a 150 but I want to get a 165 in the august lsat

The correct choice was B, I selected D. I found this statement really difficult to understand and even my BR took a while to do so if anyone can offer helpful tips on how they approached this question that would be greatly appreciated.

My reason for selecting the answer choice I did was because I made an assumption in the archaeologist's argument, I also confused myself with the grammar inside the stimulus.

This is how I am now understanding the question:

Treasure Hunter: Because of the rule, treasure hunters are entitled to what they retrieve since they are risking their lives. Since the rule applies, the ship is in peril. This condition must be met for the rule to apply.

Archeologist: They are not entitled to what they retrieve, the shipwrecks are stablized, the only danger they are exposed to is that of previous archaeologists and therefore are not in peril (implicitly stated). They are not in peril because for the rule to be met this condition must also be met, in this case it is not.

What they disagree about is whether or not the ship is in peril (B)

TH says this rule can be applied to a sunken ship. Implicitly saying that it is still in peril

A says nothing about the rule and only speaks about whether the treasure hunters are actually entitled to the artifacts or not. But since they are not entitled to the artifacts, the ship is not in peril.

(D) is incorrect because:

TH: agrees with the statement by saying even though they have sunk, treasure hunters are still entitled to what they discover because they risk their lives

A: Though they still risk their lives, they are only risking their lives because of other treasure hunters, not because the ship is in peril. But they make no mention about whether maritime law can be applied